New on LowEndTalk? Please Register and read our Community Rules.
All new Registrations are manually reviewed and approved, so a short delay after registration may occur before your account becomes active.
All new Registrations are manually reviewed and approved, so a short delay after registration may occur before your account becomes active.
Comments
Didn't know about this repo, thanks!
Their installs preserve the same config directory structure of the standard debian packages?
Yup! Since he does the official PHP core packages for Debian he makes sure everything is compatible (I'm using his 7.1 repo on Debian Stretch and it works great. I haven't tried 7.2 yet but I'm sure it works just as good) Here's the link where the Dotdeb maintainer says to just use Deb Sury for the latest PHP releases: https://www.dotdeb.org/2017/01/27/php-7-1-dotdeb/
https://www.fastcompany.com/3028778/why-facebook-invented-a-new-php-derived-language-called-hack
http://hacklang.org
These are very interesting reads.
check out golang.
As a programmer- I know for a fact that the great php devs are moving on to other languages.
I'm not so sure about that one. go had some priorities (e.g. google's own needs and "fast and (relatively) easy") but security wasn't high up on the list of priorities. Plus: go's growth already begins to slow down; chances are that go will not become a language of major significance ("top 10").
Plus there is the problem of the knowledge barrier. Languages like php are typically chosen for being wide spread (translates to i.a. large community, lots of tutorials, lots of tools, etc.) but also for being simple. And, of course, interpreted vs. compiled is an issue, too (many strongly prefer one over the other).
It's for reasons like that languages offering a good compromise (with safety) like e.g. Scala can hardly be considered as acceptable alternatives for php people.
Good candidates are (usually) interpreted languages that offer at least some typing, a generally sound concept, and at least limited static analysis tools. One such candidate is python with mypy. Another one is lua with luacheck.
Highly sensible applications, e.g. payment and/or customer data, should be done only with "hardcore" safety-in-mind languages. (Object-)Pascal might be considered a reasonable minimum. Other and better (but still managable for non specialists) Options are e.g. Eiffel, Vala or racket.
^ well you have not used golang yet to make a more informed opinion
While it is mostly compiled in production- it does have a feel of being an interpreted language. You can go run your file without compiling yet.
and oh will not be top 10 in jul 2017? https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/
I could go on and on about things I like about golang- but maybe better to try it yourself. I picked it up quite fast and and basically never looked back.
I wouldn't say that tiobe isn't legit but each of the big statistics has its own weaknesses (often one might, for instance, challenge their criteria).
Btw, I may have worded it clumsily but what I meant was "in the medium to long run".
I'm personally neither pro nor anti go; I don't care. But I think that go has a major problem in that it doesn't lead in anything (except maybe having a very fast compiler). Few C or C++ developers, for instance, will find compelling enough reasons to switch. php "developers" even less.
But hey, enjoy it, if you like it.