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I think you're jumping the gun slightly here, be fair.
50/50
I do take advantage of drama as it is fun but with a provider who is unprofessional and has no back up plans if anything goes wrong.
No matter what people say, ColoCrossing is one of the best for stability and support imo, from my experience. Cant speak for delimiter though, as i never was a customer, and will never signup with them.
Yeah it's nuts! I didn't expect it to get that big.
The reddit mob is more scary than the LET mob lol.
Considering they claimed to be unaware their entire setup was powered through a decades old fuse (that caused the three day outage), and then couldn't power back up quickly as their hvac could not handle more than a rack or two at a time being turned on....doesn't surprise me in the least that thier routers can't handle something like this. Nor does their attitude elicit surprise. They are quick to attack their competitors posting refugee offers or slamming equipment based on the fact THEY THEMSELVES couldn't get it to work, and quick to blame customers for every problem (like in the thread that got Mark a temporary vacation). Pop tarts saved them in certain peoples eyes after the colossal outage, but people are finally realizing the true nature and attitude of delimeter (and subsequently the parent company....not too long ago Mark was constantly distancing himself from the delimeter brand). Delimeter already had a bad reputation in several communities prior to all this. Goes to show how easily people are swayed soley on price, not quality these days.
I'm guessing most of the people on that forum have never had an IP nulled from a DDoS attack, or know how hard it is for small dedi providers with a low capacity and budget network to mitigate attacks without upstream help.
It looks like a case of bad luck for the customer, and the delimiter rep choose the wrong guy to piss off. I don't think the customer actually knew what he was paying for, or was with a provider such as OVH (or OVH reseller/VPS) where he wouldn't notice such attacks in the past...
While Delimiter is not OVH, they proudly state they own their own DC so I don't think they qualify as a "small dedi provider".
Idk but that is weird in my book
Yeah, the problem is iirc, the IPs delimiter provided were carrier grade NAT for a residential ISP
. It was literally 2 IP addresses.
Calling this a DDoS is hilarious.
I'll start by saying I know very little about network related stuff, so perhaps I'm reading this incorrectly but delimiter mentioned they provided 2 'flows' among 20-30 others. Would that not mean that there is actually 20-30 sources for the flood, not just two?
Basically a surge of people come on at once.
Delimiter didn't call it a DDoS, they called it a 'flood attack'.
http://pastebin.com/jBaYPxRq
Only for $20 boxes and he create such drama???? LOL. if this is for $2k than its worth to do such things.
More like renting space/racks in existing building, "55 Marietta Street, Suite 1720" i think.
http://bgp.he.net/AS7363
I was responding to the idea that called it a DDoS:
So 1 ISP produces 200,000 pps to a server? What's the average pps per user?
Even if that IP was a residential NAT IP, I doubt all the users would use the same ISP.
There probably was someone sending a flood through his home connection to the server.
Reddit be like
You do certainly have a point there, however one can't expect the customer to worry about these things. Since when do you have to "agree I am fully aware of my hosts financial situation and how the server I am going to rent will affect the hosting companies performance. Furthermore I am a certified sysadmin and experienced in the occurance of DDoS attacks.." ? While people who are coming from LET or WHT might atleast have a thought about all this when choosing a budget for their server in accordance with the respective provider, one certainly can't expect the average consumer to do so. There is waaaay too many people who don't. In such situations communication between the host and customer is crucial and it should be the host trying to help the customer findint a solution to get their service back up and running or issue a prorated refund.
You can't expect much more from such a cheap host, that network/company is probably so saturated i'm sure they lose their temper rather quickly with the amounts of people they have to deal with (most of which who are probably kids with parents credit cards hosting their minecraft server) don't get me wrong pissing off sysadmin is not that hard but snapping at customers whilst remaining calm is a skill that is very difficult to master.
I never understood this mentality. If you can't handle the load, why accept orders?
People are too greedy for their own good, at that volume its not hard to scale accordingly i dont get it. EDIT: Still working out how to use quote so bare with me xD
@TropiHost
You had to be new to this forum to defend these guys.
Search for Delimiter posts so you can get a better idea of how they operate.
I have no idea about this
What is up with the ridiculous, nonsensical posts.
I think we all know and it has very little to do with the content of the thread
The best part about having a quota for making offers.
200k pps is not light for a cheap server. When you sell those you know that 100k might clog the NIC to some point, going at 200 is probably breaking most cheap nics out there. As such, you calculate your routers and switches to cope to an average, say, of 10k pps per server, say 50k at most.
I am considering abuse something over 40k, enough to raise a flag and to investigate. Recommendation for our customers is to keep below 10k. This makes easier to identify "snowshoe" ddosers, and misconfigured DNS/NTP/TS etc servers out there. What goes over is investigated, if the customer is consistently over 40k, even if legit, we ask to change provider, it is not for a regular VPS to run such services (most are oscam and the like which are infringing anyway).