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Although I haven't looked to see what is defined as "commercial activity", that sounds very much like "commercial activity" to me. Heck, if you run a website with ads (like >90% of websites out there), that probably constitutes commercial activity.
The policy sounds particularly good for forum owners whom have a fair number of whiny teenagers members who don't mind swatting people they don't agree with...
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Terrible idea on all fronts.
I'm fairly certain that ICANN have the overall responsibility of Internet names globally regardless of it being gTLD or ccTLD. Their only problem is going to be enforcement.
Quite a lot of registries already have restrictions in place on who can and can't have hidden or protected WHOIS.
It's VERY BAD idea! ICANN is on wrong way. My privacy is my right and I support Namecheap activity in this case.
It'll force me to use fake data. I prefer to use my real data but I don't want to expose them.
I've only got a couple dozen domains, but I use my real data - address and all. WHOIS just doesn't work! I'm sad that nobody has come to visit me. Not even a post card.
Not even a postcard? TBH, I've gotten a few spam calls, lots of e-mail spam, and one letter (scan posted here on imgur). That said, I keep my data public due to the general lack of problems (my Google Voice number has permitted me to block anyone who really bothers me).
I've got to say, as far as fake invoices go, that's a pretty innocent one.
That is indeed a pretty innocent one. I completely forgot. I got a much more elaborate fake bill like that this year. I had actually saved it because I thought it was cool. Still, that's not very much, and not at all what I had expected from what I'd thought was really a dating site. Girls do troll the WHOIS for contacts - don't they?
Virtual office, a little bit more per month than WHOIS protection, but just as effective.
Much ado about nothing. If you support this and thing this is revolutionary/going to change the world, it's not.
How will they implement this?
How will they differentiate between a regular blog or a company website?
They implement this for all.
I trust ICANN less and less. It's a result of the influence of such countries as India, Russia, China, etc., who are against privacy.
Oh so that must be why the Russian TLD has mandatory full whois privacy for all personal domains.
Also the Chinese TLD seems to be the same (tried whois on many .cn domains, none show street address or phone number of the owner).
so all .com Domains will not have privacy protection completely removed, bad for the people who paid for privacy protection.
@netguy Your privacy is your right, your business privacy is not. As long as you don't do business you can hide your details, no one will mind, however when you are doing business there is no such thing like hiding address.
Depends on how exactly they define commercial activity and how well it is enforced, but the idea itself sounds reasonable.
There is no good enough reason for a business to hide behind private whois. Spam can be handled with high accuracy, calls can be filtered, physical post can be set on fire, and so on.
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Law in many countries already regulates what information you have to display on your website. I would use whois privacy even as a legit company. Identity theft (craigslist prank lel) and spam are annoying.
@4n0nx agree, the SPAM from whois obtained emails is really annoying. This could be worked out better actually.
ICANN is not doing anything new. For example, here in the UK Nominet already displays all data in whois when the domain is registered for the business (commercial use by corporation or a 'self-employed' person).
I think they mean .com domains. I only reg .net and .org ones, even .info.
It depends on how it is implemented. If everyone is considered guilty until proven innocent and all privacy whois is removed until you prove you do not monetize your sites in any way, then we have a problem. Otherwise, nothing will change, unless they apply to .com by default, even then, I have no issue, there are few of those used for personal reasons only.
Also the Chinese TLD seems to be the same (tried whois on many .cn domains, none show street address or phone number of the owner).
It seems good. But it's a mirage. Do you try to register a russian domain .ru? You have to fill in your passport data, it's the simplest variant. Some russian registrar require to send your passport scan. It's not hardly. The nightmare is coming when you want to transfer your domain to another registrar. You have to go to your registrar office with your passport or send a notarize paper letter to your registrar by ordinary mail. If you are living in Siberia would you like to go to Moscow to transfer your domain?
The latest Russian legislation is very restrictive and your data may be open without court decision, your domain registration may be frozen and you may be under trial. A lot of the government authorities may do so. And Yes, Whois is private. China is the similar.
It will be a presumption of guilt.
Without exceptions! My business privacy is my privacy too! The businessman isn't a man who must be naked in front of people.
Nobody promised you anonymity from your registrar, yes you have to provide the passport. But afterwards neither your street address nor phone, not even your real name will be displayed publicly in the whois for all of the Internet to see, like on TLDs with no whois privacy.
Nope, but what you said earlier is correct, you can send a notarized letter. This is doable.
Also some now implement a simplified procedure, where you sign and send a paper agreement just once, and then don't have to send letters on each domain transfer. https://www.reg.ru/support/domains/perenos-domena/perenos-domena-ot-regru/perenos-domena-v-zone-ru-su-rf-ot-regru-k-drugomu-registratoru
I imagine for the same reason their address is already public with their respective business registrar.
It's only common sense that you shouldn't be able to find out any information about a business . . . what could possibly go wrong, right?
it would be nice to see everyone leave ICANN powered registars, making ICANN financially feel that it is a dead end. their new idea wont solve anything, people will falsify any kind of information necessary to accomplish their goals.
The Simpsons... way ahead of it's time like usual
Tell ICANN: "Respect our privacy. Don't expose WHOIS data."
I think, personally, that this will only be one step before they extend this for other "activities" — therefore, a big "no".
So someone with a cat picture blog with AdSense deserves to get swatted?
@lbft that depends on the interpretation and the actual rules. So far I've seen suggestion, or a proposition only. Nothing of a legal value, so really for me it's too speculative to comment further.
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