What's a good pricing for ghost hosting?

duckeeyuck

Assuming you obtained 10gb disk space + 200gb bandwidth.

BeardyUnixGuy

If only a ghost blog and nothing else, then you can simply use softaculous on any of the shared hosting providers:

• BuyVM Shared20G ($15/yr),
• ImpactShared Shared20 ($5/m), or
• PageClick's Click-3 ($6.99/m)

noaman

@virmach....link in signature

I ran a blog on 512Mb...

Unfortunately npm is a memory hogger.. when installing packages

Other than that

Ghost is very light weight you could run it on 128mb-256mb...

duckeeyuck

I meant, if I was to setup something like runekite or ghost.com and sell hosting specifically for ghost like they do, what would you consider a fair price as a possible costumer?

abangnoob

i installed ghost to virmach 5$/year openVZ (256mb), it's running pretty well

abytecurious

Considering that ghost.org plans start at $19 a month, I think 10 per month would be a good price point.

IMO, you should atleast address the comparison points mentioned here - https://ghost.org/ghost-pro-vs-self-hosting/ to highlight why someone should host with you (since you would probably be between those two columns)

Lunar

@BeardyUnixGuy said:
If only a ghost blog and nothing else, then you can simply use softaculous on any of the shared hosting providers:

• BuyVM Shared20G ($15/yr)

For some reason BuyShared doesn't have Ghost in Softaculous.

momin90909

@Lunar said:

@BeardyUnixGuy said:
If only a ghost blog and nothing else, then you can simply use softaculous on any of the shared hosting providers:

• BuyVM Shared20G ($15/yr)

For some reason BuyShared doesn't have Ghost in Softaculous.

Isn't Ghost based upon Node.JS, that means it can't be installed on shared hosts, since they only provide PHP hosting? Or am I missing something?

Lunar

@momin90909 said:

@Lunar said:

@BeardyUnixGuy said:
If only a ghost blog and nothing else, then you can simply use softaculous on any of the shared hosting providers:

• BuyVM Shared20G ($15/yr)

For some reason BuyShared doesn't have Ghost in Softaculous.

Isn't Ghost based upon Node.JS, that means it can't be installed on shared hosts, since they only provide PHP hosting? Or am I missing something?

I think you're right.

joepie91

@momin90909 said:

@Lunar said:

@BeardyUnixGuy said:
If only a ghost blog and nothing else, then you can simply use softaculous on any of the shared hosting providers:

• BuyVM Shared20G ($15/yr)

For some reason BuyShared doesn't have Ghost in Softaculous.

Isn't Ghost based upon Node.JS, that means it can't be installed on shared hosts, since they only provide PHP hosting? Or am I missing something?

It's technically possible to run Node.js on standard shared hosting, but it's a really really bad idea.

lifehome

@joepie91 said:

@momin90909 said:

@Lunar said:

@BeardyUnixGuy said:
If only a ghost blog and nothing else, then you can simply use softaculous on any of the shared hosting providers:

• BuyVM Shared20G ($15/yr)

For some reason BuyShared doesn't have Ghost in Softaculous.

Isn't Ghost based upon Node.JS, that means it can't be installed on shared hosts, since they only provide PHP hosting? Or am I missing something?

It's technically possible to run Node.js on standard shared hosting, but it's a really really bad idea.

I wonder how? /omfg

Francisco

@Lunar said:

@BeardyUnixGuy said:
If only a ghost blog and nothing else, then you can simply use softaculous on any of the shared hosting providers:

• BuyVM Shared20G ($15/yr)

For some reason BuyShared doesn't have Ghost in Softaculous.

You sure? I was sure we did. If not, ticket, i'll look it over

Francisco

Francisco

@joepie91 said:
It's technically possible to run Node.js on standard shared hosting, but it's a really really bad idea.

Softaculous does it pretty hilariously. They run nodejs as the user on a random high port and then use htaccess to proxy all requests to it.

Francisco

Lunar

@Francisco said:

@Lunar said:

@BeardyUnixGuy said:
If only a ghost blog and nothing else, then you can simply use softaculous on any of the shared hosting providers:

• BuyVM Shared20G ($15/yr)

For some reason BuyShared doesn't have Ghost in Softaculous.

You sure? I was sure we did. If not, ticket, i'll look it over

Francisco

I sent you a ticket #81606.

noaman

@abangnoob said:
i installed ghost to virmach 5$/year openVZ (256mb), it's running pretty well

How did you installed npm packages on 256 mb?

When installing they consumed two much ram :-(

Lee

noaman said: How did you installed npm packages on 256 mb?

With swap.

As for Softaculous, it's not a great idea, yes it works inefficiently. Softaculous have even set Ghost to hidden by default now as it can can cause issues in shared environments.

M_Ordinateur

Lee said: As for Softaculous, it's not a great idea, yes it works inefficiently. Softaculous have even set Ghost to hidden by default now as it can can cause issues in shared environments.

Exactly. Until recently, you could even find this on Ghost support site:

"Running Ghost with a Softaculous auto-installer is generally a total disaster. We do not recommend it under any circumstances. The installer is poorly designed, does not function properly, and causes all kinds of issues with Ghost which are outside of our control." Source

abangnoob

@noaman said:

@abangnoob said:
i installed ghost to virmach 5$/year openVZ (256mb), it's running pretty well

How did you installed npm packages on 256 mb?

When installing they consumed two much ram :-(

in my experience, npm install --production consume 140-190 ram. so 256mb ram is enough. when running it only consume 74mb ram.

i even had to install ghost in lowendspirit 128mb, but need to contact anthony to upgrade my ram temporary for npm install production

noaman

@abangnoob said:

@noaman said:

@abangnoob said:
i installed ghost to virmach 5$/year openVZ (256mb), it's running pretty well

How did you installed npm packages on 256 mb?

When installing they consumed two much ram :-(

in my experience, npm install --production consume 140-190 ram. so 256mb ram is enough. when running it only consume 74mb ram.

i even had to install ghost in lowendspirit 128mb, but need to contact anthony to upgrade my ram temporary for npm install production

I wonder when npm is going to fix this....why cant it use hdd as temp file location

I guess i tried installing it on a 128 mb vps when it failed...:-(

Lee

abangnoob said: npm install --production consume 140-190 ram. so 256mb ram is enough.

Assuming you have nothing else going on in the box consuming ram then it should be fine. Still, for stability I would not recommend 256mb, especially if you start getting higher footfall on the site, that 256mb won't last.

joepie91

@Francisco said:

@joepie91 said:
It's technically possible to run Node.js on standard shared hosting, but it's a really really bad idea.

Softaculous does it pretty hilariously. They run nodejs as the user on a random high port and then use htaccess to proxy all requests to it.

Francisco

I... what? Running it on a high port, okay, that's fairly normal for a setup like this. But proxying using htaccess? What?

@noaman said:

@abangnoob said:

@noaman said:

@abangnoob said:
i installed ghost to virmach 5$/year openVZ (256mb), it's running pretty well

How did you installed npm packages on 256 mb?

When installing they consumed two much ram :-(

in my experience, npm install --production consume 140-190 ram. so 256mb ram is enough. when running it only consume 74mb ram.

i even had to install ghost in lowendspirit 128mb, but need to contact anthony to upgrade my ram temporary for npm install production

I wonder when npm is going to fix this....why cant it use hdd as temp file location

I guess i tried installing it on a 128 mb vps when it failed...:-(

The NPM developers are pretty incompetent, and it's unlikely that this will ever be fixed unless they rewrite the entire client. You'll probably have more luck with either:

1. rsyncing over node_modules from another system (this only works if there are either no compiled modules, or it's the same architecture / system libraries)
2. Using an alternative installer like pnpm, ied, or yarn - but keep in mind that all of these are fairly experimental, and may not necessarily work in your case.

As for the RAM requirements that NPM has - I've seen it run out of memory on 512MB RAM, with bigger projects. Horrible, horrible codebase.

noaman

@joepie91 said:

@Francisco said:

@joepie91 said:
It's technically possible to run Node.js on standard shared hosting, but it's a really really bad idea.

Softaculous does it pretty hilariously. They run nodejs as the user on a random high port and then use htaccess to proxy all requests to it.

Francisco

I... what? Running it on a high port, okay, that's fairly normal for a setup like this. But proxying using htaccess? What?

@noaman said:

@abangnoob said:

@noaman said:

@abangnoob said:
i installed ghost to virmach 5$/year openVZ (256mb), it's running pretty well

How did you installed npm packages on 256 mb?

When installing they consumed two much ram :-(

in my experience, npm install --production consume 140-190 ram. so 256mb ram is enough. when running it only consume 74mb ram.

i even had to install ghost in lowendspirit 128mb, but need to contact anthony to upgrade my ram temporary for npm install production

I wonder when npm is going to fix this....why cant it use hdd as temp file location

I guess i tried installing it on a 128 mb vps when it failed...:-(

The NPM developers are pretty incompetent, and it's unlikely that this will ever be fixed unless they rewrite the entire client. You'll probably have more luck with either:

1. rsyncing over node_modules from another system (this only works if there are either no compiled modules, or it's the same architecture / system libraries)
2. Using an alternative installer like pnpm, ied, or yarn - but keep in mind that all of these are fairly experimental, and may not necessarily work in your case.

As for the RAM requirements that NPM has - I've seen it run out of memory on 512MB RAM, with bigger projects. Horrible, horrible codebase.

Yes ... exactly...why keep everything in ram....

I guess rsync is the correct way...

Edit:

Can we use swap / pagefile....instead of ram.... obviously...on kvm ...you can set swap to your own size

spammy

BuyVM has a OpenVZ template set up with Ghost that you can just load and run, I think that would be a better option for OP? I have tried it on the 128MB RAM VPS and it runs fine.

BeardyUnixGuy

Lunar said: For some reason BuyShared doesn't have Ghost in Softaculous

They used to.

@Francisco said:

@joepie91 said:
It's technically possible to run Node.js on standard shared hosting, but it's a really really bad idea.

Softaculous does it pretty hilariously. They run nodejs as the user on a random high port and then use htaccess to proxy all requests to it.

Francisco

A while back, I wanted to check if BuyShared supported python apps. Of course they didn't, but it got me thinking about how softaculous managed to install and run the ghost blog.

As @Francisco mentioned, it's served on a high port number and then reverse proxied by the normal cPanel frontend (Apache/Litespeed). IIRC, the high port chosen remained the same for the lifetime of the softaculous app deployment.

Not very efficient, but it did appear to work alright for low-traffic sites.

Francisco

We have the template inside the turnkey category

Francisco

abangnoob

bumps this thread.

2 days ago i want to upgrade my ghost blog. aaannnddd... 256ram is not enough to npm install, so i bought vortexnode promo (KVM 10$/year 512ram). when i check npm install now need 490mb of ram T_T.

so if you need to install ghost blog, it's need minimal 512mb of ram.