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Any interest in 10gbit VPSs?

RobertClarkeRobertClarke Member
edited April 2013 in General

If yes, would you be looking at high-disk VPSs, SSDs? High clock CPUs? The network would obviously be shared, but customers could burst 10gbit.

It would be more of a high-end market, maybe $20-40/GB RAM, but would anyone be interested in something like this?

Edit: So we're probably looking at doing this:

1GB RAM
20GB SSD Space (960GB PCI-E SSD card on host node)
2TB BW @ 10Gbps shared.
OpenVZ.
4 cores @ 2.3GHz
$30/m.

I'm interested to know what people would think of this offer, I could do it, provide almost 10gbit speeds (node/network conditions will always). I might look into doing a 512mb offer for $15/m, but the idea is to keep the least amount of VMs on the server as possible, to increase network speeds.

Server would go through extensive testing before production deployment, and might not even pass tests in the end for it to be deployed.

Discord: robert#8239

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  • Yea, I would love it to 'stress test' my servers

  • markmark Member

    Absolutely. Memory doesn't make servers stand out any more, 10Gbps port would.

  • @mark said: Absolutely. Memory doesn't make servers stand out any more, 10Gbps port would.

    What sort of specs and price point would you be looking for?

    Discord: robert#8239

  • KuJoeKuJoe Member, Provider

    High End Boxes would sell great on LowEndBox.com...

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  • @KuJoe said: High End Boxes would sell great on LowEndBox.com...

    As Mark said, 10gbps would be an interesting server, might sell well, who knows. Total node capacity would be 20gbps.

    Discord: robert#8239

  • markmark Member

    I personally would be interested in something with a reasonable amount of diskspace, 20GB or more. 256MB memory, perhaps 512MB? Price-wise, $5-6? I have no idea what that sort of connectivity would cost.

    It would just be something a little different from the massive memory, oversold OpenVZ that is of no interest to me.

  • It would sell great on hackforums and wjunction

  • I'd pay $10-15 for 256-512MB with 5-10GB disk, something like 2-4TB BW? Is that unrealistic?

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  • Awmusic12635Awmusic12635 Member, Provider

    Expect abuse.

    You would also need dual E5's most likely to push the full 10G

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  • @ihatetonyy said: I'd pay $10-15 for 256-512MB with 5-10GB disk, something like 2-4TB BW? Is that unrealistic?

    Depending on if you expect real 10Gbit speeds, even shared. Unless it's FDC or similar that's single homed or can't actually provide real 10Gbit, the bandwidth costs on it are still very high. Not to mention network cards and switches required for it.

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  • Nick_ANick_A Top Provider

    I would love to see the plan behind this.

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  • @Nick_A said: I would love to see the plan behind this.

    What part of the plan?

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  • God help us if people are able to purchase $30 VPS with a 10gbit port.

  • Nick_ANick_A Top Provider

    @RobertClarke said: What part of the plan?

    Let's start with the 20-48x 10Gbps switch.

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  • @Nick_A I can do it, not sure on the specifics yet, but if I was going to do this, I could. Still brain storming the server specifications that could push as much of the 10gbit port as possible.

    Discord: robert#8239

  • SpencerSpencer Member
    edited April 2013

    @RobertClarke said: @Nick_A I can do it, not sure on the specifics yet, but if I was going to do this, I could. Still brain storming the server specifications that could push as much of the 10gbit port as possible.

    If you are expecting a dedicated 10gig, get ready to pay 3k+/m

  • ChrisKChrisK Member
    edited April 2013

    pretty cheap price @spencer

  • @Spencer said: If you are expecting a dedicated 10gig, get ready to pay 3k+/m

    I'd expect that for dedicated 1Gbit.

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  • I would love to be able to burst to 10gig (or even a couple gigs). I'd love something like 512MB of ram, ~10GB and however much BW for ~$10/mo?

  • For a reference:

    1 x 2.1GHz core
    1GB RAM
    75GB RAID10 HDD
    10Gbps shared port
    10TB bandwidth
    OpenVZ Virtualization
    NL Datacenter
    38$/m

  • RobertClarkeRobertClarke Member
    edited April 2013

    So we're probably looking at doing this:

    1GB RAM
    20GB SSD Space (960GB PCI-E SSD card on host node)
    2TB BW @ 10Gbps shared.
    OpenVZ.
    4 cores @ 2.3GHz
    $30/m.

    I'm interested to know what people would think of this offer, I could do it, provide almost 10gbit speeds (node/network conditions will always). I might look into doing a 512mb offer for $15/m, but the idea is to keep the least amount of VMs on the server as possible, to increase network speeds.

    Server would go through extensive testing before production deployment, and might not even pass tests in the end for it to be deployed.

    Let me know guys.

    Discord: robert#8239

  • What rate of oversubscription?

  • Awmusic12635Awmusic12635 Member, Provider

    I still don't see the point of a 10gbps vps

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  • @Fliphost said: I still don't see the point of a 10gbps vps

    The ability to burst up to 10Gbps.. lol.

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  • Awmusic12635Awmusic12635 Member, Provider

    @semoweb I mean I can understand it for a dedicated server, typically streaming. Where bandwidth need is high and used to the max, however 10G with 2Tb of BW I just see as missing the point of it.

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  • @Fliphost said: however 10G with 2Tb of BW I just see as missing the point of it.

    Takes less than 30 min to use all your bandwidth for the month!

  • Nick_ANick_A Top Provider

    Let the abuse begin.

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  • dedicadosdedicados Member
    edited April 2013

    @Fliphost said: I still don't see the point of a 10gbps vps

    +1

    Nothing for the moment

  • @spencer in 4 mins you can use 2.4TB.. At full 10G, since solusvm polls inbound+outbound 2 mins at full duplex

  • @ChrisK said: in 4 mins you can use 2.4TB.. At full 10G, since solusvm polls inbound+outbound 2 mins at full duplex

    Yea less than 30 min, like I said.

  • DylanDylan Member
    edited April 2013

    @RobertClarke said: 2TB BW @ 10Gbps shared.

    Yeah, gotta agree that a 2TB B/W limit makes it pointless.

    I guess effectively not letting people use the speed is one way to try and stem abuse, though.

  • I'm just a "pay for what I've need" guy.
    Maybe most of us, better rearrange your plans again. A high end box rarely needed.
    Just a suggestion.

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  • WilliamWilliam Member, Provider

    @Spencer said: If you are expecting a dedicated 10gig, get ready to pay 3k+/m

    Meh, depends where - HE in Europe sells 10G for 2500$ (flat) and most carriers give you a 10G port with 500Mbit commitment @ 1-2EUR.

  • DerekDerek Member

    FDC has 10Gbps ports unlimited for 399.99

    10Gbps Access to all the VPS's can be a disaster, but if you limit each Virtual Machine to 1Gbps, or even 500Mbps, you can have some very satisfied customers who post some really good speed tests.

  • From what I know, you can easily do this by simply committing 1Gbps at a 10Gbps port like FiberHub's WHT offer. Since the traffic limit is 2TB, you don't need a full flat 10Gbps.

    I was thinking about offering a similar deal. However, I concluded that it'd attract abusers like most of the people pointed out here.

    If you are going to do this, you need some fool-proof / near fool-proof anti fraud mechanism.

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  • @Francisco

    Has Fiberhub added Above.net yet? Wasn't that meant to happen months ago?

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  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Provider

    @concerto49 said: Has Fiberhub added Above.net yet? Wasn't that meant to happen months ago?

    No. Yes.

    The hold up isn't on FH's end it seems. Abovenet's LV location isn't owned by Zayo, rather it's just a few racks of switches/routers that they have in a DC. The big holdup is getting the fiber run it seems. Rob isn't listing ZAYO in his sales posts as of this second it seems due to the delays :(

    I'm hopeful that it shows up soon but for now it isn't too critical.

    Francisco

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  • @Francisco, how is fiberhub's network. Are you happy?

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  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Provider

    @serverian said: @Francisco, how is fiberhub's network. Are you happy?

    FH's network is great. Rob had route dampening enabled which was causing our nullroutes to take upwards of a minute to be accepted into his route tables but he turned those off since he didn't need them anymore.

    Minus the screwups I've caused, our transit has gone up quite a bit, showing that I wasn't full of it when I said EGI was affecting our speeds. Our 'lows' used to be around 700mbit/sec, but soon after the move to LV we rarely dropped below a gig.

    I expect once the brocade is in place it'll increase quite a bit more.

    Francisco

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  • AndreAndre Member

    Are 2 or 5Gbit connections possible?
    10Gbit seems very much overkill for LEB's.

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  • Why is there so much hate on this?

    Is it because Robert didnt look at the costs first?
    The price is higher than $7?
    The abuse would be fanatical?

    In either case, it's an alright idea, why on earth you'd ever want a 10Gbit VM is beyond me, it's not really useful.

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  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Provider

    @eastonch said: The abuse would be fanatical?

    Duh.

    Every booter skid dreams of finding an affordable unmetered VPS for $7/m that they can knock out a bunch of DNS reflection traffic out of. 100mbit/sec pushing non stop will easily generate a few gbit/sec of reflection traffic. Imagine if they had a large enough list and a large enough pipe.

    Francisco

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  • @Francisco
    Correctly thinking, this would cause some major problems in smaller DC's, right?

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  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Provider
    edited April 2013

    Correctly thinking, this would cause some major problems in smaller DC's, right?

    Major DC's too.

    The problem is most DC's don't know what a DDoS looks like, nor have any sort of auto nullroute platform.

    There was a DC in Phoenix the other week that had a 10gbit/sec+ UDP flood (or so they say) that put them in heavy packetloss country for 30 minutes or so.

    You're going to have a tough time finding many DC's that aren't going to feel a pinch when 10gig floods start hitting customer distro switches.

    Francisco

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  • @Francisco

    Safe to assume FH would deal with the attack well?

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  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Provider
    edited April 2013

    @eastonch said: @Francisco

    Safe to assume FH would deal with the attack well?

    I honestly don't know. Rob claims that he has seen some large floods and the network didn't notice it, minus the end client getting his face ripped off. I don't doubt it, they are a mostly (i'm thinking purely?) brocade shop. Brocades are beasts that have no problems doing line rate.

    Remember, we got ponynull monitoring things on our end so the only times we have flood issues is when I pulled nulls I shouldn't have. A few weeks ago I commited a new patch to autonull that made it so it watched out for such idiotic ideas :P

    Francisco

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  • AnthonySmithAnthonySmith Top Provider

    @Francisco said: A few weeks ago I commited a new patch to autonull that made it so it watched out for such idiotic ideas :P

    SO that is what alerted you to this thread?

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Provider

    @AnthonySmith said: SO that is what alerted you to this thread?

    Someone linked me the thread on skype want I figured i'd give my 2 cents CAD.

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  • AnthonySmithAnthonySmith Top Provider

    :) ::troll::

  • @Francisco said: Someone linked me the thread on skype want I figured i'd give my 2 cents CAD.

    Wasn't it because I tagged you here? :(

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