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Just enough for /dev/root

twaintwain Member
edited March 2013 in General

Squeezing every ounce I can using embedded storage on a thin client/Slitaz install:

image

Come on who can beat this? :)

Comments

  • KuJoeKuJoe Member, Host Rep

    Isn't DSL only 50MB?

  • twaintwain Member

    @KuJoe said: Isn't DSL only 50MB?

    Not sure, maybe the livecd is, but can you install it, and what is the install size? I bet more than 225M.. but that would be a good option for sure, will have to check that out thanks.

  • KuJoeKuJoe Member, Host Rep
    edited March 2013

    @twain said: what is the install size?

    image

  • GarrettGarrett Member
    edited March 2013

    Using Openwrt is probably cheating...
    http://i.imgur.com/tKZ0Eft.png?1

  • Note to self: don't ever post some great achievement in terms of disk space, memory, speed, etc. Someone will always beat it.

  • twaintwain Member

    @KuJoe - excellent I will have to use that then thanks for testing!

  • twaintwain Member

    Forgot about tiny core.. biggest version is 64mb

  • @Garrett: Well, I'm using dd-wrt, but yeah I'd have to agree with you there.

  • AlbertAlbert Member
    edited March 2013
  • @Abert, what are you running with 2.x megabytes? Is this something real or a totally embedded whacky OS?

  • KuJoeKuJoe Member, Host Rep

    Puppy maybe? I know you can run Puppy entirely in RAM and when you need to save you can write the changes to a USB drive.

  • netomxnetomx Moderator, Veteran

    @pubcrawler said: @Abert, what are you running with 2.x megabytes? Is this something real or a totally embedded whacky OS?

    seems like a router

  • I'm pretty sure its a router

  • KuJoeKuJoe Member, Host Rep

    A router with 16GB of RAM? Overkill even for full BGP tables.

  • netomxnetomx Moderator, Veteran

    @KuJoe said: A router with 16GB of RAM? Overkill even for full BGP tables.

    what r u talking baouuut

  • @KuJoe said: 16GB of RAM?

    Is just "free" not "free -m"

  • root@router:~# df -h
    Filesystem                Size      Used Available Use% Mounted on
    rootfs                  448.0K    248.0K    200.0K  55% /
    /dev/root                 2.5M      2.5M         0 100% /rom
    tmpfs                    14.4M    160.0K     14.2M   1% /tmp
    tmpfs                   512.0K         0    512.0K   0% /dev
    /dev/mtdblock3          448.0K    248.0K    200.0K  55% /overlay
    overlayfs:/overlay      448.0K    248.0K    200.0K  55% /
    root@router:~# free -m
                 total         used         free       shared      buffers
    Mem:         29480        19700         9780            0         1868
    -/+ buffers:              17832        11648
    Swap:            0            0            0
    

    My 3G router. :D

  • @budingyun said: My 3G router. :D

    Your 3G router has 30GBs of RAM?

  • AmfyAmfy Member
    edited March 2013

    @KuJoe said: A router with 16GB of RAM? Overkill even for full BGP tables.

    Correct.

    IPv4 and IPv6 table:

    # free -m total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 502 448 54 0 36 94 -/+ buffers/cache: 316 185 Swap: 487 0 487

    One of my routers with some other stuff:

    # free -m total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 1566 1385 181 0 187 350 -/+ buffers/cache: 847 719 Swap: 465 10 455

  • edited March 2013

    Can say concretely ...

    But diskspace isn't a massive achievement imo, when it comes to OS size on a vps-server anyway. Disk is generally cheap from what I've seen understand on the topic. Agree that Slitaz shines like no other in terms of install size ... Sorta ... Other factors (imo) are likely to far outweigh that benefit though. RAM usage ( use of RAM imo ... is not an area in which Slitaz particularly shines ...), extremely limited software repositories/etc. Were like 3,000 packages last time I'd bothered caring ... so forth. Don't doubt there are work arounds I guess ( compile everything ... if even poss ?)... but still.

    Admit to being impressed with Slitaz though, for what it is. Ridiculous ( though not surprising some gnu/nix distro maintainer could fit an entire OS onto something so small). Have a Slitaz 3.0 install, mostly acting as the bootloader on a desktop system becuz I was fond of grub legacy. Yep ... insanely small ... though as opined ... other limitations involved.

    Long story short ... ok, you probably win using Slitaz as a server OS, if install size is the only consideration. Very likely also lose too though. For aforementioned hinted @ chit, shrugs. Do think Slitaz is interesting and/or amazing for what it is. As a server OS ... jmo = Guessing not so much, more shrugs. Slltaz doesn't even make the PC OS shortlist for real. Meaning wouldn't even consider installing Slitaz on a personal computer to be the OS ... server OS candidate ?

    Errrrr ... that's x persons choice to make. Slitaz wouldn't even be close to being considered a viable server Os for me. As with many other things in life, would summarize by saying "it's not the size necessarily that counts ... it's how you use it and other limitations that could very well fark ya in de arse." :P

    Just 2 cents ... blahblahblah.

    PS. DAMMIT ... Just to be fair, am not by any means a Slitaz guru either. Use it as a bootloader on a crusty low spec desktop ... For all I friggin know, all things may be poss via Slitaz ... More blahblahblah. :D

  • @Bogdacutuu said: Your 3G router has 30GBs of RAM?

    The minimal Busybox "free" doesn't support human readable output and always displays in bytes, regardless of the options passed. Or my router has several TB of ram:

    41 ~$ ssh ubit.dev free -g
                 total         used         free       shared      buffers
    Mem:        126684        25188       101496            0         1156
    -/+ buffers:              24032       102652
    Swap:        65532            0        65532
    
  • twaintwain Member

    @Nothingcomes2mind - yep for sure Slitaz not ideal for a server OS. As for a very minimal desktop OS, yes very cool and works very well, however yes fairly limited package selection... that's why I'm thinking about installing DSL or Tiny Core (Tiny Core actually had a fairly good package selection)

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