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    • jarjar Provider

      Jonchun said: Looks like this is going to get out of hand if we continue

      Nope, I already offered my advice. I mean no harm. I've said what I said and have no intention of changing my mind on what impresses me.

    • joepie91joepie91 Member, Provider

      MacPac said: The statement you quoted is clear, there is no such completely secure system even the standard WHMCS/SolusVM are always having security issues and I am clearly saying we are doing our best to improve our panel security/usability/functionality.

      Neither WHMCS nor SolusVM are examples of software where security is a big priority. If those are the bar you're trying to meet, you're going to have a problem. I also don't really get why you keep bringing them up - this kind of "but they're doing it too!" doesn't make you look better, it just makes you look like "one of those who don't quite get security", alongside the WHMCS and SolusVM developers.

      "Nothing is perfectly secure" is a complete non-argument in 100% of cases. Yes, technically speaking it's true, but it holds absolutely no relevance to this thread - the security issues that you find in well-designed software are cases of oversight, and they are fixed as soon as they are reported.

      You, on the other hand, choose to trivialize the issues that are found, flat-out refuse to fix the habits and technical decisions that led to these issues existing in the first place, refuse to have your code audited or reviewed by a third party, and refuse to outsource the development of a critical piece of business software to an experienced developer, choosing to do it yourself instead.

      That isn't an oversight, it's negligence.

      Stop trying to make excuses and fix your fucking shit already. And I really do mean fixing it, not "patching the vulnerabilities". Hire a competent developer or auditor. Use a real templater. And so on. Fix the problem at the root, instead of sticking band-aids over everything, because that's simply not how security works.

    • joepie91joepie91 Member, Provider

      Just got pointed at this by somebody in #lowendtalk.

      That didn't take long...

    • MacPacMacPac Member, Silenced

      @joepie91

      Its made by our CEO @ Arcanum since he is one that controls *.foxvm.com , I am not sure yet what he is trying to do and i wish him a better chance without me.
      it was pointed to another server by @Arcanum and its not a a hack.

      @Arcanum

      This wasn't funny at all, thanks for supporting all the effort i have done to help you.

      @jarland

      Thank you for all your support mate, I will continue working on my panels and release them as a open source software later.

    • MacPacMacPac Member, Silenced

      @joepie91 @trvz @Jonchun and the other trolls, the image(trolololol) was directed at you after all.

      PROOF

    • qq7119qq7119 Member
      edited September 2016

      @MacPac said:

      Just want to know how you solve the customer's problem? You can not even maintain their own website,You are a joke~

      The meaning of life lies in exploring the unknown forever...✅

    • joepie91joepie91 Member, Provider
      edited September 2016

      It's a bit confusing to follow all the events for people who aren't also on the IRC channel, so here's an excerpt of my response to this on IRC:

      [13:47] <joepie91> t0xic: you need to do some serious self-reflection, mate.
      [13:48] <joepie91> same to Escable.
      [...]
      [13:49] <joepie91> t0xic: for some reason, neither Escable nor you seem to grasp the fact that "I've invested effort into it" is not something deserving of praise when you fail to correctly address the issues in what you've just built.
      [13:50] <joepie91> "effort" does not translate to sales, it does not translate to respect, it certainly does not translate to quality
      [13:50] <t0xic> i really don't need more trolling
      [13:50] <joepie91> this shitstorm is entirely of your own making, thanks to your horrible handling of the security concerns
      [13:50] <t0xic> thank you for understanding
      [13:50] <joepie91> so stop trying to blame others for that
      [13:51] <joepie91> t0xic: I'm not trolling. perhaps you'd walk away from this with more useful knowledge if you stopped trying to classify every bit of criticism as "trolling" just so have an excuse to ignore it.
      [13:51] <joepie91> just to*
      [13:51] <t0xic> its gone, i am not blaming anyone and move on please
      [...]
      [13:52] <joepie91> t0xic: note, what I said was directed at both you and Escable, not just you personally

      EDIT: Formatting.

      Thanked by 1Jonchun
    • Awmusic12635Awmusic12635 Member, Provider

      Well this has been.... interesting

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    • NekkiNekki Moderator

      Um...WTF?

      Here lies Nekki. He loved massive amounts of storage, K-Pop and calling people cunts.

    • MacPacMacPac Member, Silenced
      edited September 2016

      @jarland
      Sorry about what i am going to say or the language i am going to use next but i can't hold it and i must say it.

      @Jonchun
      You're the world most fucking asshole and you should ask @IThinkUFailed who is the guy behind correcting your shitty SSL settings on that whmcs and you didn't deserve my help and i have should have left you vuln to just know the value of guys like me and i wasn't going to post this until you seemed to be happy about the closing of this project and you're disgusting.

      Good luck but i am coming back with my own tld and going to the dedicated hosting market just to compete with you and kick the hell out of you.

    • JonchunJonchun Member, Provider
      edited September 2016

      @MacPac said:
      @Jonchun
      You're the world most fucking asshole and you should ask @IThinkUFailed who is the guy behind correcting your shitty SSL settings on that whmcs and you didn't deserve my help and i have should have left you vuln to just know the value of guys like me and.

      I don't understand why you're blaming me for your discrepancies... In regards to SSL... I modified the SSL settings to go from a B+ rating to an A+ rating on SSLLabs just for you... Realistically speaking, it wouldn't really have mattered. Breaking SSL is a lot more difficult than breaking a weekend PHP project without proper auditing.

      Edit: I just realized I didn't really emphasize the following: Yes, it was insecure and unprofessional to not have TLS setup properly. However, when I was informed, I fixed it immediately within minutes instead of going crazy and raging all over the forums...

      i wasn't going to post this until you seemed to be happy about the closing of this project

      I am happy. Why? You now have a chance to look back and reflect on why this failed so hard. From your attitude and your "CEO" 's attitude, it's pretty obvious this was doomed to fall flat on its face anyways. Once you've done some self-reflection, maybe you'll come out stronger :)

      Good luck but i am coming back with my own tld and going to the dedicated hosting market just to compete with you and kick the hell out of you.

      I look forward to it. Would be good to see some more cheap dedicated server providers. Could you do something in Psychz Ashburn perhaps? I'd like a nice East Coast server for cheap.

    • MacPacMacPac Member, Silenced
      edited September 2016

      @Jonchun

      Thank you to proof that you didn't deserve any help and again my weekend php project took 3 months of development and it was never broken and you're just a troll and You're not welcome to comment on any of my future threads or to register your account with me like you did at foxvm.com

      EDIT: correcting a typo.

    • MacPacMacPac Member, Silenced

      @Jonchun

      and even the bootstrap was custom designed for this project but guys like you who uses templates for there customers don't even know what is bootstrap and jump on other people's work to shit on.

      You're a complete negative example on this community.

      Thank you!

    • JonchunJonchun Member, Provider

      @MacPac said:
      @Jonchun

      Thank you to proof that you didn't deserve any help and again my weekend php project took 3 months of development

      3 months of development != 3 months of productive and useful development. That was the point I was trying to make. Just because you put time and energy into something doesn't turn it into a quality product

      and it was never broken and you're just a troll and You're not welcome to comment on any of my future threads or to register you're account with me like you did at foxvm.com

      I will post where I want and when I want. I registered an account at foxvm because I took the time to at least check you guys out, view the billing system, and get a feel for the "custom billing" you created before commenting on it. I immediately noticed it was underdeveloped and missing a ton of basic functionality, whereas I can guarantee you that the people who have been praising your efforts probably didn't even bother checking your stuff out. I criticized your stuff based on what I saw, and took the time to at least take a look at your billing panel for myself before immediately dismissing it. I'm not sure why you can't just accept the fact that it was not production ready.

      @MacPac said:
      @Jonchun

      and even the bootstrap was custom designed for this project but guys like you who uses templates for there customers don't even know what is bootstrap and jump on other people's work to shit on.

      I am fully aware of what BootStrap is. I heavily modified a pre-existing theme because I don't consider myself a UX/UI designer, and don't have a keen eye for making things look super-pretty. I know where my strengths are, and it's definitely not in creating web designs from scratch. That being said, the template I modified was bootstrap based (as are most modern templates) and I did put some time into integrating it with the rest of my site.

      You're a complete negative example on this community.

      I'm sorry you feel that I am a negative example to this community, and I hope that you being a shining beacon of positivity will help restore the balance to LowEndTalk.

      Thank you!

      You're welcome! If there's anything else I can help you with, feel free to ask!

    • MacPacMacPac Member, Silenced
      edited September 2016

      @Jonchun
      3 months are enough for production ready because it's been under a constant work and thinking of things you never know about or have any clue about and those 3 months are not wasted because my thing is still there and it scares the hell out of you because if not you won't even bother commenting here.

      @Jonchun

      You're welcome! If there's anything else i can help you with, feel free to ask!

      Yes get the fuck out of my thread, you're the last clown that i have left alive and i have gotten
      my revenge.

      Please @jarland or any other admin around take care of this guy as he isn't welcome to continue posting on the thread i made and there is no reason for him to be here in the first place.

    • joepie91joepie91 Member, Provider
      edited September 2016

      MacPac said: 3 months are enough for production ready because it's been under a constant work and thinking of things you never know about or have any clue about and those 3 months are not wasted because my thing is still there and it scares the hell out of you because if not you won't even bother commenting here.

      Your panel wasn't production-ready. Doesn't matter how many months went into it, doesn't matter how much effort went into it. It just wasn't up to standards, simple as that.

      MacPac said: Please @jarland or any other admin around take care of this guy as he isn't welcome to continue posting on the thread i made and there is no reason for him to be here in the first place.

      You don't "own" the thread, and you were the one who reignited an otherwise-dead thread by shouting at @Jonchun. I don't know why you feel you can throw insults at somebody, and then tell them they can't reply to them.

      Grow up.

      Thanked by 1Jonchun
    • MacPacMacPac Member, Silenced
      edited September 2016

      @joepie91

      I have banned you from #foxvm and clearly said you're not welcome to post on any of my threads on any forum not just this forum.

      please go outside and think about what you did and also think that Escable did troll the hell out of you badly and you didn't even look at the source of that trololol image because of your hate for me to just be a way step over you and you didn't think for a sec that the guy who created the image couldn't hack or breach into the other guy who made the custom design and code. It made you a blind troll and you're not the person who can tell if my thing is production ready or not

      Please @Ishaq @Amitz @jarland, I am kindly asking to close this thread if you can't stop these trolls from commenting there shit.

    • joepie91joepie91 Member, Provider
      edited September 2016

      MacPac said: I have banned you from #foxvm and clearly said you're not welcome to post any of my threads on any forum not just this forum.

      Again, you don't own the thread. That you can't deal with criticism is your problem, not mine.

      MacPac said: please go outside and think about what you did and also think that Escable did troll the hell out of you badly and you didn't even look at the source of that trololol image because of your hate for me to just be a way step over you and you didn't think for a sec that the guy who created the image couldn't hack or breach into the other guy who made the custom design and code.

      Still no clue what you're going on about here, it's barely comprehensible. I've already told you as much several times on IRC, as well. If you want to make a point, try making it more clearly, without rambling off.

      MacPac said: you're not the person who can tell if my thing is production ready or not

      I am, actually. It's literally my day job.

    • MacPacMacPac Member, Silenced

      @joepie91

      I am, actually. It's literally my day job.

      No you're not, because clearly you're just a node.js clown who hasn't done anything to match this stuff on this thread or else you wouldn't have commented or care its just your hate continues here and you're just proofing to the world that your judgements were based on hate only and not facts.

      @joepie91

      Again, you don't own the thread. That you can't deal with criticism is your problem, not mine.

      Yes I own the thread because if you look back you will see with your blind eyes its me who created it and i can handle any critcism because i am finally understanding your intentions here.

      For the admins, I am going to respect you and wait for your action regarding this dude or this thread to be closed because i have no need to argue with them and waste my time any more.

      Thank you!

    • jarjar Provider
      edited September 2016

      MacPac said: I am kindly asking to close this thread if you can't stop these trolls from commenting

      I think your vision is clouded and that's alright, but please allow me to provide you with an image of this situation from my view. You said this:

      MacPac said: I have already invited @joepie91 to try to break it, many others too and I have grown up in a community of security geeks since the days before hax.tor.hu to wechall.net and the time i have spent in those communities have teached me and still teaching me to never trust the user input therefore I can guarantee to you and to our clients that its secure than many of the existing systems.

      In the eyes of @joepie91, and quite reasonably so, he took this as you hinting at the idea of him playing a part in signing off on this as a secure application. He then disagreed with that notion, you argued his points, and the back and forth continued.

      From my view, you took the first step in escalating this matter and took no opportunity to de-escalate it. While this thread has been closed, please do not take this as being for the benefit of any particular party.

      Thanked by 1taro222
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