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Off-Band VPN/VPS access?

FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran
edited December 2011 in General

I've been batting around the idea of allowing users to 'request' a login to an out-of-band PPTP based VPN that would connect them into the private LAN we have between VM's.

This would mean users could access RDC/SSH/etc over their private IP if they didn't want their public facing IP running those services.

There would be no cost attached to the service, at worst a rate limit to stop users from using it to evade bandwidth monitoring.

Good idea? any interest?

Francisco

Comments

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    I should add that the request thing would be 100% automated and handled within stallion.

    Francisco

  • The users who know how to setup their ssh daemon to listen only on the private IP probably already know how to firewall the ssh port and/or setup vpn access themselves :)

  • @rds100, the point of it though is to completely eliminate public-facing services that could become points of compromise.

    @Francisco, I would definitely use it. It would be wonderful to get ssh off of a public port.

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @rds100 said: The users who know how to setup their ssh daemon to listen only on the private IP probably already know how to firewall the ssh port and/or setup vpn access themselves :)

    As Nick said, we got some users that are very paranoid about having anything public facing.

    In fact, if I made it so the PPTP would assign each user a static IP, I would likely cause a few people to have a nerdgasm. Private access over a password only they know and they're able to firewall it even more so? Please.

    Francisco

  • albertdbalbertdb Member
    edited December 2011

    It would be very interesting. No more Fail2Ban/DenyHosts running on the VPS, more RAM available for other purposes, assuming that none of the customers attack other's VPS.

  • @albertdb said: assuming that none of the customers attack other's VPS.

    That's what Aldryic and bz are for! :D

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @albertdb - it sounds like doing a static IP would be ideal for the service then, that way there is full logs that can be reported if there is abuse?

    Francisco

  • @Francisco said: I've been batting around the idea of allowing users to 'request' a login to an out-of-band PPTP based VPN that would connect them into the private LAN we have between VM's.

    I would like this, things like an SQL server don't need a public facing IP address. Often it's only available for SSH login, otherwise it would be great to ditch the public facing IP altogether in this case.

  • This sounds great. BuyVM changing the game once again.

  • +1 That would be great

  • Offtopic, what about the switchable IPs that you were talking about some time ago? :P

  • @yomero said: Offtopic, what about the switchable IPs that you were talking about some time ago? :P

    Still on the drawing board. The coding on my end of things (billing, whmcs) is about wrapped up, we've just been busy with KVM and some oddball, but high priority, stuff that needed to be sorted first :P

  • Sounds like a good plan to me. It's pretty much how I had my storage VPS setup for a while. Firewall rules that said "no" to most everything incoming and outgoing, with only pptp on the external IP. Web, Samba, and ssh were only listening to the VPN address.

    Is the idea for this VPN to be for ssh admin only or could I run my personal Samba and web backup services through it as well?

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    cleonard - you could run those as well.

    We'd rate limit speeds to probably 1Mbit though, or maybe 10mbit, to stop users from using it as a way to evade BW.

    Francisco

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