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Wanting Dedicated or VPS with 12+TB of storage but CHEAP!
This is just for me personally so I dont really need enterprise grade hardware. I currently have a 5 disk synology with 12TB at my house, but my internet upload speed is super slow.
I am wanting to use this server for Plex Media Server, for myself and a couple family members.
I really should probably look at something with almost 16TB because I am using over 11TB already, so I will need some room to grow.
I am currently testing a server from Hetzner with a HW Raid 5 that has about 10 TB of usable space. When I first got it, I swear I could download from it at 10MB/s and up, now I can barely get 1MB/s, Plex still works most of the time from it, but some nights it just keeps buffering.
Something somewhat closer to home would be preferred.
my Location: Indiana
Monthly Data use: should be less than 10TB
Would like something with a CPU Passmark rating of at least 3000
OVH has a FS-30T server for $155, but I was hoping for something cheaper.
Any thoughts or suggestions?
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We offer mass storage plans with Xpenology, but are located in France. I feel our pricing is outside of what your looking to pay. Have you thought of racking your own hardware closer to home?
You could try Delimiter's slot hosting. Pre-load your drives, then ship them to Atlanta. @mikeyur
I have thought about building my own server and hosting it somewhere, I need to look into this route a little bit more maybe.
I was thinking cheap is a generic term, I referenced the OVH offering because if I can't get come up with a better plan I might just go with that.
I am not completely against paying $150/month, but I was hoping for something closer to $100/month if possible.
I just think it is crazy that most places seem to want $300 or more for servers with large storage.
OVH is about is cheap as it gets, you definitely won't find anything remotely comparable in the midwest, believe me, I'VE LOOKED. Indiana is just in a weird spot where the closest city with decent datacenters, Chicago, is very expensive
I've always gotten decent speeds from OVH/Roubaix to Comcast/Indiana, but I also was never streaming or anything and instead was pulling multiple files over FTP at once
send like 3 8tb drives to delimiter for slot hosting, combine them into a 3-dedicated-core vps with 3gb of ram and ?? amount of traffic, and have it run for 30/month.
You decide your own setup fee by buying the drives.
@663e0f5b Looks like slot hosting is your best bet atm. I wonder if they can get Xpenology working with slot hosting.
I am currently renting a server for $100/month in Asheville, NC that has 6 3TB HDD in it that I can transfer to you if you're interested?
@trewq Could you send me some more details on this server?
@texteditor I did try one of OVH's 7 day rental's and it seemed to work really well.
This slot hosting sounds interesting. I am calculating what that would cost with drives.
I really appreciate all this info.
We can offer dedicated server i3-3220, 8GB RAM, 4 x 4TB HDD - $90 and less if paying in advance. https://www.bacloud.com/en/single-dedicated-servers Currently this offer is out of stock, but if you can wait, we will find you a solution.
Slot hosting could work as we can combine the plans into 1 big VPS. Each VM has (dedicated resources): 1 core, 1GB ram, 10GB boot disk, 4TB bandwidth and 1x 2.5 or 3.5" drive you supply. You can software RAID them from the VPS.
However, you'd probably be better off with a dedicated server. The deal @trewq mentioned would probably be good if the location/network works. OVH is also great.
I could offer a 6x2TB config of our Dual L5630/24GB/20TB bw for $149 if our network and location (Atlanta) works well for your purposes.
If you could raise your budget to 200$ I can do 4x 8TB, 16GB RAM, E3-1245V2.
@mikeyur Could you answer a few questions for me on the Slot Hosting?
If I were to get 4 Slots would the Boot Disk become 40gb and the Bandwidth 16TB or do they stay the same?
What type of CPU is it that the CPU Core is from?
What drives do you recommend in these? Something like WD Red Pro, WD Re or would just the standard WD Red work? I know standard Red drives are only supposed to be used in systems with 8 drives or less for vibration reasons, so I wasn't sure how many drives total were in the actual server.
Why do you think a dedicated would be a better option?
A VPS with 12TB HDD is impossible, you should opt for a dedicated.
OVH would be a good choice.
I host my own NAS (actually just 1x8TB drive, will add 1 8TB soon) in a DC in germany.
Why would it be impossible?
If anyone would do it (KVM VPS), it will be much more expensive than taking directly a dedicated.
I setup a VM a few months back with 4 x 500TB disk just to prove expandability. I used Software RAID0 in the VM (remember the underlying storage was redundant/HA) and had 2PB storage. You'll find the performance tests on LET somewhere.
Yes all resources are aggregated
L5520
There are 16 disks per server (2 boot SSDs) and 14 client disks. Customers use a wide range of disks from SSDs to unbranded 3.5" HDDs to WD Red/Black/etc
My storage server runs as a KVM VM, admittedly on a machine I have co-lo'd but it allows me to run other stuff than just the Storage on the same physical server.
So not impossible, just unlikely other than delimiters slot hosting.
They would be combined, so 4 cores, 4GB ram, 40GB boot disk, 16TB bw, etc.
Xeon L5520
Really depends, if it's just serving media any old drive would do the trick. Red should be alright, just avoid Green. For big drives, check the Toshiba 4 & 5TB variants with 128MB cache, they're affordable and have been performing well for us.
We can also order the drives for you if you order annually, just point us to the model you want on Amazon (has to be prime) and we'll handle ordering & billing you.
You'll definitely save with slot hosting long term, I mentioned it because I wasn't sure if you were willing to put up the setup costs involved with purchasing drives.
With us you could also do a mixed setup if you need more power, have big drives colo'd with Slot Hosting and then grab a dedicated server (on quarterly billing our Dual E5420 is $20/mo) and use the slot hosting as network storage but do the processing & serving from dedicated server.
Thank you @MarkTurner & @mikeyur for the info
I am waiting to hear back from @trewq with some more details on his server that he has available.
Do you have a method for me to test the speeds from your network to me? I didnt see any download test files on the website.
Also if I go with the slot hosting and after a few months I decide it doesn't work for me am I able to just cancel and get my drives shipped back or how does that work.
I am really liking this option, especially the thought of maybe doing one of the Dedicated servers as my front end.
Question for anyone really, if I did go with the VPS for storage and a 2nd server for the frontend, what do you recommend for connecting to the storage box. What could give the best speed while still be secure? OpenVPN then a plain NFS/CIFS mount, or SSHFS? or something else?
I think this or the server from trewq is what I am going to do.
Will PM you a test file.
There's a $25 unrack & pack fee, you supply a shipping label and we'll send it out.
Gonna leave that one for @MarkTurner - he'd know best.
waaaaaaaaaaat???
can you send me a porn image of that server, must be this one
@mikeyur
Those Test files just fully saturated my Comcast connection at Home and at Work. :-)
Is this the Toshiba Drives you were talking about? Amazon Link
Toshiba PH3500U-1I72 5TB
The more I look at that though I think it is only a desktop grade drive, so that might not be the one.
I dont really want to start a huge discussion about Raid and why Raid 5 is bad, just looking for a few opinions. I have spent the past few hours reading and reading about issues with raid 5, and many of those also seem to be due to desktop grade drives being used. So I am kind of up in the air as to what route I should take. I plan on keeping a mirrored copy of the data on my home NAS, and also have backed a lot of it up to Crashplan, so if I did have a drive failure it wouldn't be the end of the world. I was thinking of setting up a Raid-5 though, but if it isn't even worth it I guess JBOD would be my choice.
Otherwise I need to get about 6 slots and setup a Raid 10, but that upfront cost right now is scaring me off a bit.
@mikeyur What are the software Raid options available?
RAID5 is really not suitable for large disks, forget grade of disk. You have to consider the rebuild time when a disk fails. During that rebuild, performance is going to be dreadful.
RAID10 is nice, but its expensive. Does this data warrant it?
What do you actually need in terms of storage and how much data protection do you need on it?
Come at it from the other direction.
Intel Xeon E3 1230, 8 GB RAM, 2 x 8 TB HDD @ $99/mo - [email protected]
We have some very aggressive deals on Xeon E3s.
I need at least 12tb usable to start, I think it would be nice to have some data protection from a raid, but I guess it really isnt required, since I have additional copies of the files in 1-2 different places.