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Is is possible to rent non virtualized box?

I need to work with android emulator and the hardware acceleration doesnt work if you are already running virtualition.

So is there a solution? or will it be way more for it to be non virtualized.

Im not sure because when I chekced on my vm with cpuinfo in linux it didnt show virtualization however when i did it on my linux centos server it did show vmx or whatever the intel accelaretion one is called. and the server uses openvz is it? forgot the name precicely

so im wondering if that counts as virtualisation whihc would 'block' your ability to use virtualization software as i read that that linux virtualisation is kind of differnet than running a vm.

thoughts?

as i said my goal is that i need to run android emulator while taking advantage of virtualisation so would like options for a possible solution.

my old computer was too old to have hardware virtualisation and unfortunately my main ciimputer is 'locked' to windows due to me having a specialised keyboard which i really like and doesnt work on linux. sucks because my desktop is an 8core and is begging to be put to that task.

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  • exception0x876exception0x876 Member, Provider

    Have you tried to run it on your PC using VMWare Player or alikes? This should give you plenty of hardware acceleration you need.

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  • I said that already in my OP that it doesnt work. That is the whole thing the thread was about the fact that you can't run a program that needs hardware virtualization within a system that is already virtualized.

  • KamAKamA Member, Provider

    Could you not use the emulators in Android Studio on Windows instead?

  • May I ask what specialist keyboard do you have that does not work in Linux?

    The fact Linux is an open source and very flexible OS I would be very surprised to find something as simple as a keyboard not be supported one way or another.

    Would be alot cheaper than getting a cheap dedicated server which is really only the true way of getting hardware virtualization you require.

  • Have you tried checking the box named "Virtualize Intel VT-x/EPT or AMD-V/RVI" in the CPU settings of the VM?

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  • What does that do exactly? The doc for it didnt offer any insight really. Also I read on the android website specifically that the acceleration won't run on a vbox/vmware.

    @ALinuxNinja said:
    Have you tried checking the box named "Virtualize Intel VT-x/EPT or AMD-V/RVI" in the CPU settings of the VM?

  • It's because it isn't a commercially available keyboard it's made for shop checkouts and stuff like that. The appeal is the non staggered design and also being programmable. http://www.access-is.com/custom_keyboards.php

    The downside being that you can't buy it directly from them and so I had to get it from ebay and so no support.

    I've already been speaking to linux kernel support about the matter but no headway gained just yet. Someone has suggested I may have to recompile the kernel to try changing some setting but it is a daunting task which I havent gotten round to trying yet.

    Ah so dedis aren't virtualized? I wasn't sure if they still ran in a virtual environment as the means to access it. what is the cheapest I would be looking at for a dedi?

    @AshleyUk said:
    May I ask what specialist keyboard do you have that does not work in Linux?

    The fact Linux is an open source and very flexible OS I would be very surprised to find something as simple as a keyboard not be supported one way or another.

    Would be alot cheaper than getting a cheap dedicated server which is really only the true way of getting hardware virtualization you require.

  • @IntroVex said:
    Could you not use the emulators in Android Studio on Windows instead?

    No because I have an AMD processor at home and acceleration only works on linux for amd cpus.

  • As per your description, you can easily get a decent dedicated in the range of 30-50$ per month.

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  • I just thought it would probably be cheaper for me to install windows on my old computer and ssh into my main desktop and install linux on it. I mean I shied away from runnning two computers at once because it felt wasteful but even so i imagine itll be alot cheaper than paying for a dedi.

  • If you can get your hands on Windows XP drivers for your custom keyboard, then you can reuse it in Linux through NDISWrapper. Worst case, use a normal keyboard on your desktop for when you want to use Linux.

  • trewqtrewq Administrator, Moderator, Provider

    lowendguy7 said: because it felt wasteful

    I know the feeling. I run 4 monitors on my desktop. One of them is now being used exclusively for spotify...

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  • pat07pat07 Member

    @rincewind said:
    If you can get your hands on Windows XP drivers for your custom keyboard, then you can reuse it in Linux through NDISWrapper. Worst case, use a normal keyboard on your desktop for when you want to use Linux.

    That was my thought. Isn't it possible to just get a cheap keyboard if you need it for this task?

  • Have you tried geneymotion. It often runs on computers that aren't supported by android studio emulating thingy

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  • Doesn't NDISwrapper only work for network cards? someone else suggested it before but the latter is what other people said and what I found from reading around.

    @rincewind said:
    If you can get your hands on Windows XP drivers for your custom keyboard, then you can reuse it in Linux through NDISWrapper. Worst case, use a normal keyboard on your desktop for when you want to use Linux.

  • Looked promising until I read "The only absolute prerequisites are that you are not running another virtualization process in the same time that you are trying to run Shashlik, "

    so it means I am in just the same situation as I am with android sdk.

  • All you need is a solution for nested virtualization as whether android studio or genymotion, never tried Shashlik runs inside a VM. To run smoothly, they require the hardware acceleration provided by the host, VT-X bit.

    By searching internet with 'nested virtualization' you may find some solution based on ESXi and KVM, good luck and please come back to report your progress.

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