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Datashack Phenom II 840 QuadCore - 8GB - 2x500GB/Hardware RAID - 20TB/1Git port - $39

earlearl Member
edited February 2013 in General

Hey just saw this promo on WHT from Datashack seems like a good deal..

★★★★This special is not on our website!★★★★

Phenom II 840 x4 Quad Core (4 cores)
8GB DDR3 RAM
2x 500GB SATA Hard Drives
Hardware RAID 0,1 or none
20TB Transfer on 1Gbit Port
Any Linux Distribution
Free DirectAdmin for Linux
5 Usable IPv4 IP addresses
/64 IPv6 Address Space
Unmanaged

$0 Setup / $39 per month

ORDER HERE!

There is also the Deal from Wholesaleinternet (WII)

★★★ Dual Xeon 5420, 8GB RAM, 250GB Hard Drive, 100Mbit Unmetered - $39 NO BUYDOWN!★★★

Dual Quad Core Xeon 5420 (2.5Ghz, 8 physical cores)
8GB RAM
250GB SATA Hard Drive
100Mbit Unmetered Port
5 usable IPv4 IPs
Linux
Free Love

$0 Setup - $39 per month when you use the code: 15off

ORDER Now!

I actually just purchased a L5420 server from WII but unfortunately they don't offer hardware raid, but they do include dedicated IPMI for free.. just wondering from the two offers above which one do you guys think is a better deal?

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  • shovenoseshovenose Member, Provider

    Datashack is the better deal in this case.

  • earlearl Member
    edited February 2013

    @shovenose said: Datashack is the better deal in this case.

    Yeah that's what I was thinking but then again Phenom is a desktop grade CPU and you only get a single CPU with the Phenom compared to the Xeon which is dual

  • shovenoseshovenose Member, Provider

    RAID1, double the storage, gigabit port :)

  • Their 1Gbit Port actually is 100mbps port or less...

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  • $0 Setup / $39 per month
    $0 Setup / $245 per 6 months
    $0 Setup / $490 per year

    Why prepaid plans are more expensive than paying monthly ?

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  • @shovenose said: RAID1, double the storage, gigabit port :)

    Yup that's what's making it a hard choice, also I don't think these come with IPMI.. not really sure why these come with hardware raid wonder if the phenom is a rack server cause kinda odd to have desktop/workstations that come with hardware raid

  • @DalComp said: Why prepaid plans are more expensive than paying monthly ?

    I think it's an error in the AD the prepay is actually cheaper if you go to the sign up page

  • shovenoseshovenose Member, Provider

    well, the xeon is a better server but unless you need more cores the Datashack phenom is better value.

  • SimpleNodeSimpleNode Member, Provider

    @DalComp said: Why prepaid plans are more expensive than paying monthly ?

    haha. Yeah. Typo? Or possibly there was originally meant to be a setup fee?

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  • Yup, copy paste error. On order page it says:
    3 months - $117
    6 months - $195
    12 months -$390

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  • CiriumCirium Member
    edited February 2013

    @airski

    Resolving speedtest.dal01.softlayer.com... 74.86.116.210
    Connecting to speedtest.dal01.softlayer.com|74.86.116.210|:80... connected.
    HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
    Length: 524288000 (500M) [application/zip]
    Saving to: test500.zip

    100%[============================>] 524,288,000 107M/s in 5.2s

    2013-02-07 23:39:24 (96.9 MB/s) - test500.zip

  • I have update the my post with a link to the offer page..

  • earlearl Member
    edited February 2013

    @airski said: Their 1Gbit Port actually is 100mbps port or less...

    Yes I did experience this while I was with datashack while sometimes is good other times can be slow but realistically it is a shared port..

    @shovenose said: well, the xeon is a better server but unless you need more cores the Datashack phenom is better value.

    True, but looking at the pass mark results it's basically half the processor

    [Dual CPU] Intel Xeon L5420 @ 2.50GHz 6,585
    AMD Phenom II X4 840 3,092

  • lbftlbft Member
    edited February 2013

    @earl said: Yeah that's what I was thinking but then again Phenom is a desktop grade CPU and you only get a single CPU with the Phenom compared to the Xeon which is dual

    CPUBenchmark.net:

    Phenom II 840: 3092
    Dual Xeon L5420: 6585

    The Wholesale offer has more than double the CPU performance.

  • @lbft said: The Wholesale offer has more than double the CPU performance.

    I know it's a hard call but really I think the bottle neck would the I/O and single 250GB versus dual 500GB with Raid 0 I wonder if the phenom would perform better?

  • Depends on your use case. If you need computing power, Dual Xeon is better (I don't understand why it only has a 250G HD?) If anything storage related, we'll probably need the raid deal.

    BTW, @earl how's your L5420 deal from WII like?

  • hyaohyao Member
    edited February 2013

    @earl IMO, please don't do Raid 0. If you really need the performance, maybe use SSD (even though a smaller volume)

  • earlearl Member
    edited February 2013

    @hyao said: BTW, @earl how's your L5420 deal from WII like?

    It's still pending.. I just ordered yesterday night, and yeah I'm confused as of to why the L5420 does not have Hardware raid but has IPMI..

    @hyao said: @earl IMO, please don't do Raid 0. If you really need the performance, maybe use SSD (even though a smaller volume)

    Yes that would be another option I heard you can ship the SSD to WII and they will install it for you, but then you are on your own where as if it's their hardware they will exchange it free.

  • Waiting for a dual Xeon with an extra disk.

  • earlearl Member
    edited February 2013

    @yomero said: Waiting for a dual Xeon with an extra disk.

    Did you order one from WII?
    I purchased an extra 250gb drive also but only later I was told there was no Hardware raid and cannot do software raid since I requested to install proxmox

    -never mind I just realize you meant you are waiting for a xeon offer with double the disk..

  • jarjar Provider
    edited February 2013

    At the risk of sounding like a broken record, still feeling the Quick Packet deals they've been running around with. I like the dual 5420 but I'd rather gigabit and a 10-20TB limit. Just not a big fan of the Phenom II compared to an older Xeon.

  • @jarland said: At the risk of sounding like a broken record, still feeling the Quick Packet deals they've been running around with. I like the dual 5420 but I'd rather gigabit and a 10-20TB limit.

    Actually I saw that deal as well..really tempting but the $199 setup fee to lower the price from $69/m to $39/m was kinda a turnoff

  • jarjar Provider

    @earl said: Actually I saw that deal as well..really tempting but the $199 setup fee to lower the price from $69/m to $39/m was kinda a turnoff

    If it interests you, message them before you let that bother you ;)

  • Ok I might as well post the offer

    ===ATLANTA=DEDICATED=SERVERS===================

    HP Proliant DL160 G5 - Intel Dual Xeon L5420

    • Dual Quad Core 2.5 GHz / 1333 MHz FSB / 2x 12 MB Cache
    • 16 GB RAM
    • 1 TB Serial ATA Hard Drive
    • 5 IP Addresses on Private VLAN with Reverse DNS
    • Unmanaged
    • Located in 55 Marietta / Atlanta, GA
    • FREE Dedicated iLO / IPMI
    • 10 TB Bandwidth / 1000 Mbps Port

    Choose your payment option:

    @jarland said: If it interests you, message them before you let that bother you ;)

    Yeah but I don't think I want to be wasting their time.. but the hardware sure looks good those HP DL360 g5 are still pretty expensive I think..

  • @earl said: I purchased an extra 250gb drive also but only later I was told there was no Hardware raid and cannot do software raid since I requested to install proxmox

    proxmox supports lvm, so in theory you can set up raid 1 on two Physical Volumes (or LVs, I'm not sure)

  • @hyao said: proxmox supports lvm, so in theory you can set up raid 1 on two Physical Volumes (or LVs, I'm not sure)

    Yeah there was a how to on it but I think technically it's not really supported.. I will see when I get my server I can Play around with the IPMI hopefully it does come with the KVM option..

  • I'd choose WSI offer. Reason being-

    1) Powerful CPU,
    2) ECC Ram,
    3) Dedicated IPMI,
    4) Server grade (Dell) hardware, if I'm not wrong.

    Additional HDD costs another $5/month. Network is Gigabit In/100 Mbps Out - good enough for me. You can bring the cost down to $33/month with 6 months prepayment.

  • @biplab said: You can bring the cost down to $33/month with 6 months prepayment.

    Yes I was thinking about doing this next month.. actually I don't think I even need the extra drive so it would lower the cost to $30/m if prepay for 6 months

  • flyfly Member
    edited February 2013

    I hate buydown as it screws you over; Even if you're in for the long term. I'm really happy with my wsi dual xeons. They currently host all of my personal sites plus nagios and piwik

  • @fly said: I'm really happy with my wsi dual xeons. They currently host all of my personal sites plus nagios and piwik

    How does it compare with your CM server? do you think WSI is better?

  • earlearl Member
    edited February 2013

    Just wondering should this post be in the general or offers section?

    • never mind I just moved it to general..
  • @earl: I just found out you can install proxmox packages on a Debian:

    http://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Install_Proxmox_VE_on_Debian_Squeeze

    So you can install 2nd disk as usual, install debian and configure Raid 1, and then install the proxmox packages.

    The following might be of use as well:
    http://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Storage_Model
    http://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Proxmox_VE_2.0_Cluster

  • @hyao

    Wow that's a lot of info.. thank you I will read up on it. hey do you think software raid 0 would really boost performance? considering I have dual xeons

  • @earl

    IMHO, software raid is nearly as good as hardware raid, given the Dual Xeon you use. Raid 0 would improve i/o performance by a factor less than 2 (actually might be lower), as I don't have the data to back it up. Someone with more experience in this regard is welcome to comment on this.

    But if your data is of any significance, I would recommend against using raid 0; I believe you already knew that :-)

  • earlearl Member
    edited February 2013

    @hyao said: I would recommend against using raid 0; I believe you already knew that :-)

    I probably would not use it for my desktop but considering the server is using proxmox I can probably take snapshot of the vm so if anything bad does happen I can just reinstall proxmox and upload the image.. Theoretically this should work If I was diligent in doing the snapshot for backups

  • Let's get this straight folks!!!!

    Wholesale IS Datashack. It is the same company.

    Wholesale says they'll match price and offer of any other KC provider. See no reason why you can't get the Datashack server in Wholesales facility on Gbit...

    As for buy downs from other providers, they suck, the concept of buydowns. If they want to accomplish same thing, then make people commit to contract.

  • earlearl Member
    edited February 2013

    @pubcrawler said: Wholesale says they'll match price and offer of any other KC provider

    I did not know that, have you successfully tried to get Datashack to match WII price? they seem to want to charge $20 more for the 5420 although theirs come with 500gb instead of WII which is 250gb drive

    Anyhow I just received my server so not too bad it took about one and a half day for them to deploy the server, They had a problem with paypal otherwise I would probably have received the server sooner.. overall the server seems pretty peppy and the network is more than quick enough for me

    wget cachefly.cachefly.net/100mb.test -O /dev/null
    --2013-02-08 04:14:01-- http://cachefly.cachefly.net/100mb.test
    Resolving cachefly.cachefly.net... 205.234.175.175
    Connecting to cachefly.cachefly.net|205.234.175.175|:80... connected.
    HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
    Length: 104857600 (100M) [application/octet-stream]
    Saving to: `/dev/null'

    100%[======================================>] 104,857,600 52.2M/s in 1.9s

    dd if=/dev/zero of=iotest bs=64k count=16k conv=fdatasync && rm -fr iotest
    16384+0 records in
    16384+0 records out
    1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB) copied, 12.9873 s, 82.7 MB/s

  • IshaqIshaq Member, Provider

    Too many deals.. damnit.

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  • shovenoseshovenose Member, Provider

    Wholesale and Datashack share employees and most Datashack servers are colocsted at wholesaleinternrt. However that doesn't mean they are the same company.

  • @earl said: never mind I just realize you meant you are waiting for a xeon offer with double the disk..

    No, I ordered with another 250GB disk.

    I also want to use proxmox, but I don't intend to use RAID stuff, and 250 + 250 is too much space n_n
    Is just for personal/friends usage, so I don't care.

    That's how I have my Datashack one, 2 disks, no RAID.

  • qpsqps Member, Provider
    edited February 2013

    @earl said: Yeah but I don't think I want to be wasting their time.. but the hardware sure looks good those HP DL360 g5 are still pretty expensive I think..

    You won't be wasting our time. :)

    For LET users, we've been offering a free second 1 TB drive on the HP ProLiant DL160 G5, which we normally charge $15 per month extra for. When you factor that in, it's a pretty good deal at $69.99 (or $39.99 if you want to pay the $199.99 setup fee).

    We have some cheaper options too, starting from $39.99 with no buydowns. If you're interested, please PM me. As many here will attest to, we have been giving LEB users some pretty great deals.

  • qpsqps Member, Provider
    edited February 2013

    @fly said: I hate buydown as it screws you over; Even if you're in for the long term.

    If you keep our server over 6 months, you start coming out ahead. It's not for everyone, but we've had a pretty good take rate on the offer (roughly 20% of orders on this server have done the buydown).

  • qpsqps Member, Provider

    @pubcrawler said: As for buy downs from other providers, they suck, the concept of buydowns. If they want to accomplish same thing, then make people commit to contract.

    If you want to sign a one-year contract at $59.99 per month instead, we'll consider doing that. PM me for further details.

  • earlearl Member
    edited February 2013

    @Ishaq said: Too many deals.. damnit.

    I know it's killing me!!

    @yomero said: I also want to use proxmox, but I don't intend to use RAID stuff, and 250 + 250 is too much space n_n

    Well after the proxmox install I only have 149 GB of storage space left so I think the second drive is necessary..

    a bit more info on the server.. it seems to be a Dell but the IPMI is not drac but does come with a reinstall OS functionality, unfortunately unlike Datashack they use one of the 5 IP for the IPMI so after proxmox I only have 3 IP's free, the hard drives are Seagate model # ST3250310NS and the memory seems to be 2X 4GB sticks of DDR2 667Mhz..

  • @earl said: 149 GB

    Doh???
    But proxmox just uses like 1GB lol

  • @yomero said: But proxmox just uses like 1GB lol

    df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/mapper/pve-root 58G 778M 54G 2% / tmpfs 3.9G 0 3.9G 0% /lib/init/rw udev 3.9G 220K 3.9G 1% /dev tmpfs 3.9G 19M 3.9G 1% /dev/shm /dev/mapper/pve-data 149G 188M 149G 1% /var/lib/vz /dev/sda1 495M 35M 436M 8% /boot /dev/fuse 30M 12K 30M 1% /etc/pve

  • earlearl Member
    edited February 2013

    I just noticed a new feature of proxmox now you can download openvz Turnkey templates directly from the web console.. That's pretty awesome

  • DomainBopDomainBop Member
    edited February 2013

    "Anyhow I just received my server so not too bad it took about one and a half day for them to deploy the server, "

    Does Wholesale charge a fee for setting up software Raid 0 during the initial setup?

  • earlearl Member
    edited February 2013

    @DomainBop said: software Raid 0

    Well you would have to ask them for sure but I don't think there is a charge cause they were going to install software raid for me but unfortunately proxmox does not support it.. if not you could probably install the OS yourself cause it does come with IPMI

    The network seems be faster at night..

    wget cachefly.cachefly.net/100mb.test -O /dev/null
    --2013-02-08 16:12:05-- http://cachefly.cachefly.net/100mb.test
    Resolving cachefly.cachefly.net... 205.234.175.175
    Connecting to cachefly.cachefly.net|205.234.175.175|:80... connected.
    HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
    Length: 104857600 (100M) [application/octet-stream]
    Saving to: `/dev/null'

    100%[======================================>] 104,857,600 10.5M/s in 9.1s

  • Well The Phenom is out.. Just asked Datashack if it included a dedicated IPMI and unfortunate it does not while you can borrow one from them I would prefer if it was included. Another option is to pay a $150 setup and $25/m which I Think is too much considering it's included free in the dell server

    Found out a bit more about my currrent server with WII it is a 1U Dell CS24-SC and turns out it has a Intel ICH9R RAID Controller, but unfortunately this is not compatible with linux. I also asked WII about sending my own Raid Card but no go..

    Here is the Spec:

    Form Factor: 1U Rackmount Server Chipset: Intel 5100 Memory: 256MB/512MB/1GB/2GB/4GB/8GB DDR DIMMs in matched pairs; 667MHz or 800MHz; 6 sockets for support up to 48GB I/O Channels: 1 PCI-e 8x expansion slots Drive controller: Intel SATA controller ATA or AHCI RAID Controller: Intel ICH9R RAID (Software Raid capable of 0 or 1) Drive Bays: Four hard drive chassis with 4x 3.5″ SATA Maximum Internal Storage: Up to 8 TB: Four 2 TB hot-plug 3.5″ SATA* Communications: 2x Onboard Intel 82567 Gigabit NICs, 1x Intel PRO 1000M Gigabit NIC (for BMC)

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