New on LowEndTalk? Please Register and read our Community Rules.
All new Registrations are manually reviewed and approved, so a short delay after registration may occur before your account becomes active.
All new Registrations are manually reviewed and approved, so a short delay after registration may occur before your account becomes active.
Comments
She's mostly on the money, and I love it when women in tech weigh in with their opinion - it's so rare, because the playing field is still not very female friendly. This industry needs more balance.
My IT degree course in the late 80s was 50/50 gender balanced, but looking at that class today, only the men seem to have made it beyond lower middle management. Weird considering the girls generally qualified with better results. For the men that made it, they had average results, and were mostly well connected bullies. The men that didn't make it were mostly gifted at tech and lacking with life skills. They scored highly, but disappeared into corporate nooks, and never re-emerged.
I worked just hard enough to pass, and spent my time in computer labs doing extra curricular work - hacking, cracking, learning. I used the university facilities to design my own degree course, serve my time in corporate and then build my own business. This is apropos of nothing - just observing the poor gender balance in devops/sysadmin.
I called her on a couple of points though. I doubt my comments will be published.
Moderating ~10-50 spam(1000 views on the thread) comments from lowendtalk takes a lot of time it seems.
She loves freedom ! She'll publish them /s
The fact that some of you chose to focus so much more on her gender and what she puts in her header rather than the very problematic points in her post says a lot. All this noble talk about how she's holding back women in computing (which I doubt), yet from what I've seen thus far it's people like you who are doing more of the holding back. "Women are certainly allowed in computing! They just have to behave in a certain way that we approve of or they're just perpetrating more stereotypes and ruining it for everyone else!"
LowEndFedoras
Well I never gave the post much thought after my first glance, but all the debate stirred up in this thead, I though, go back and re-read it, nope,
Oops! That page can’t be found.Yeah, someone must have mentioned the post being shared here and she saw the hurricane here BigTim.
http://www.v-nessa.net/2016/01/30/im-going-to-tell-you-about-web-hosting
tl;dr:
By tagging current customers and laugh about them
"despite me clearly saying my view had nothing to do with the views of the companies I’m affiliated with"
You don't get to just say that and then link to one of your customers to make a point about something customers do that annoys you.....lol
Excellent taco filler
I knew you'll love it :P
I still don't like my comment not appearing, so Vanessa when you finished checking this forum out, please approve my comment about my viagra website.
Full post is still here for anyone that missed it: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:BzX-cP_XqgYJ:www.v-nessa.net/2016/01/28/im-going-to-tell-you-about-web-hosting+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca
Interesting find.
tl;dr
Woman in IT makes a blog post explaining her personal opinions about the nuances of having hosting customers.
Eagle-eyed (and wallet happy) LET posters spot intervened personal customer data in post.
IT Woman sees post and removes blog article.
For anyone arriving late: https://archive.is/kZjkS
Wow she deleted it? That doesn't look good
Time to get sued ?
"To be clear, no one asked me to remove this post – I did so on my own, at my discretion after recognizing my lack of good judgment." is a bunch of tl;dr for "omg muh job!"
She actually keeps editing it too, but in all honesty the words sound sincere to me. Judgement error located, resolved, clarified. Well that was fun. Time to get some taco bell...
NVM: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:BzX-cP_XqgYJ:www.v-nessa.net/2016/01/28/im-going-to-tell-you-about-web-hosting+&cd=1&hl=de&ct=clnk&gl=de
Troll pages are for trolling, stuff with your name on it is for formal stuff... damn youngin's
Nothing special in that blog post except the fact that blogger is a she, geek and wife.
why is the post deleted, used to have an apology before
http://www.v-nessa.net/2016/01/30/im-going-to-tell-you-about-web-hosting
I dream of a Utopia.
A world where people dont give a crap about ones gender, religion or whatever.
But its like people dont want to move on. Until people like her consider themselves "Women in IT", or a minority (omg) instead of just regular "IT personnel" we'll have such situations.
Sadly discrimination goes both ways. You cant have your cake and eat it.
Either base yourself on skill or on biological factors. Not both /rant
I've been in IT for 25 years. The only culture that is more tolerant, more diverse, more meritocratic is perhaps professional sports, and even that has a radical gender imbalance in terms of income (though otherwise for athletes it is nearly perfectly meritocratic).
I don't know where y'all work, but at least for the USA, of all the cultures to complain about, purple hair and tattoos/my boss is a transgendered pagan/we just spent 20 minutes discussing global beard traditions/our devops team speaks 8 different languages/Ankur is teaching us to swear in Bengali/no team lunch this month because it's Ramadan/Susan is telecommuting for the next 6 weeks following maternity leave/our oncall schedule is a little funky because Isaac can't do oncall Friday nights/sorry those are my urban chickens you're hearing in the back of the concall IT culture is not the culture that needs fixing.
I dunno about that. She said her moment of clarity came after people "misunderstood her perspective". That's one of those apology-undermining things people only say when they think they're not wrong and shouldn't be having to make a retraction.
As someone who disagreed with her (and since her remark about "a somewhat popular forum" almost certainly means us here) I find that snipe a little offensive, too. Maybe she could consider that it's possible we're not dumb, and we did understand her, but just didn't agree?
Incoming edit :P