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EDIS changed HK datacenter, just for notice
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EDIS changed HK datacenter, just for notice

jevermeisterjevermeister Member
edited January 2013 in Providers

read this on facebook today, don't have a vps from them @ hk but maybe you're interested:

EDIS successfully changed datacenter in Hong Kong. Good Bye Sunnyvision! NOW premium international and direct China bandwidth. ENJOY!
http://hk.edis.at/

Comments

  • ElliotJElliotJ Member
    edited January 2013

    Yup, just did some traceroutes and it sure is a direct connection to China.

    Unfortunately, the speeds to my local connection (UK) maxes out at 16kB/sec on a 60mbit connection :(

    EDIT: (8th Jan) - Now receiving much better download speeds, ~3mbit from the other side of the planet.

    Need to reach me quickly? Ping me on Discord

  • jevermeisterjevermeister Member
    edited January 2013

    same here, from my LAX & CH location.

    datacenter seems to be hostvirtual ( www.vr.com )

  • Hi guys! Well, ... we had to take actions. SunnyVision pulled all the registers to get rid of us. Looks like we used too much of what they did not have and we got too expensive for them as a client. 6 months of prepayment to SunnyVision blown in the wind, but what else can you do if the firm really sucks? Connectivity through VR can not be compared to HE only what we had at the end with SunnyVision. We hope that our machines found a good new home in HK now and that our clients enjoy the new bandwidth options.
    BTW I would like to say THANK YOU to the technicians of VR who took care of the whole server-migration in Hong Kong!
    Cheers, Gerhard @ EDIS

    one vps is never enough ;-) http://www.edis.at

  • Edis rocks as always, love their new .im location :)

  • @bobby said: Edis rocks as always, love their new .im location :)

    What is the advantage of the IM location over plain UK?

    Check my blog for more cool *nix tips & tricks!

  • @djvdorp said: What is the advantage of the IM location over plain UK?

    hipster +1

  • @gubbyte said: hipster +1

    Only that (the fact that its not so crowded as uk might be ok too)

  • @djvdorp said: What is the advantage of the IM location over plain UK?

    The Isle of Man is not part of UK or EU jurisdiction.

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  • BTW: Routing within HK (HKIX) is still a bit tricky. SunnyVision still needs to remove the announcement of our IP addresses. We'll put some pressure - if this does not work out, we will contact upstreams to get things sorted. There is not much cooperation to be expected from SunnyVision. We're glad that they allowed to pick up our infrastructure.
    Sometimes I just wonder ...
    Gerhard

    one vps is never enough ;-) http://www.edis.at

  • WintereiseWintereise Member
    edited January 2013

    @William This is how you should not route, contrary to what VR seems to think.

    traceroute to no (no.no.no.no) , 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
     1  1-208-255-158.static.edis.at (158.255.208.1)  0.529 ms  0.537 ms  0.605 ms
     2  hnk-b2-link.telia.net (213.248.66.101)  2.404 ms  2.402 ms  2.398 ms
     3  sjo-bb1-link.telia.net (213.155.132.191)  156.782 ms  156.884 ms  156.879 ms
     4  ntt-ic-143925-saj-bb1.c.telia.net (213.248.69.102)  172.725 ms  159.135 ms  159.291 ms
     5  ae-7.r21.snjsca04.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.5.54)  178.135 ms  178.135 ms  152.870 ms
     6  as-0.r21.tokyjp01.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.4.45)  165.725 ms  159.207 ms  188.884 ms
     7  ae-0.ocn.tokyjp01.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.11.54)  164.441 ms  164.437 ms  169.036 ms
     8  60.37.27.141 (60.37.27.141)  164.403 ms 118.23.168.76 (118.23.168.76)  157.879 ms 60.37.27.141 (60.37.27.141)  157.902 ms
     9  122.28.168.194 (122.28.168.194)  168.492 ms  159.852 ms  166.406 ms
    10  118.23.96.98 (118.23.96.98)  159.835 ms 118.23.96.102 (118.23.96.102)  158.155 ms 118.23.96.98 (118.23.96.98)  160.689 ms
    11  118.23.98.73 (118.23.98.73)  174.232 ms  174.210 ms  174.857 ms
    

    Going to LAX to reach more or less the largest carrier in APAC? <_<'

    -- BOFH

  • WilliamWilliam Member, Provider
    edited January 2013

    Note: Direct China is limited to a few Mbit shared due to costs, Please do not abuse it.

    There are still some routing flaws (mainly inside HK, namely HKIX) as Sunnyvision did not remove the BGP announce yet fully (even though i did send them the LOA withdraw)
    (This is also what @Wintereise 's problem cause)

  • Oh, if it's just a matter of time, then fine :)

    -- BOFH

  • WilliamWilliam Member, Provider

    Also, we are in fact in the NTT datacenter and get NTT routes as well, just not whitelisted yet :)

  • klikliklikli Member
    edited January 2013

    How large is your netblock? Split them into smaller /24's?

  • WilliamWilliam Member, Provider

    It's only a /24 in HK.

  • FYI, I'm only getting about 12 KBytes/sec (100 kbps) transfer downloading a file hosted on the Edis HKG. Tried from the US (Dallas and NYC) and from Germany.

  • @jon617 @Wintereise from my edis vm in HK this appears to be getting better now. I do still go to /dev/null via sunnyvision for some locations though, hope that @William can get them to stop announcing :(

    Retired!

  • China telcom is good,less than 80ms,while china unicom is about 250ms

  • 2 ge1-1-141.7603-1.hknet.com (202.67.141.73) 37.914 ms 37.887 ms 37.848 ms
    3 sunnyvision2-RGE.hkix.net (202.40.161.79) 1.939 ms 2.103 ms 1.336 ms
    4 * * *
    5 * * *
    6 * * *
    7 * * *

    Retired!

  • OliverOliver Member, Provider

    Connectivity from South Australia isn't as good. :-( It used to go via Singapore and now it goes across the Pacific (twice) via San Jose.

    Ransom IT AU/NZ/JP/HK/SG VPS and Dedicated Provider | VPS/dedicated in Perth, Adelaide, Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane, Auckland, Tokyo, Singapore, Hong Kong!
  • Hmm, from my end (SG) the route goes through AS6453 via Palo Alto > Chicago > New York > London, then finally HK.

    © 2011-2019 eLohkCalb

  • jon617jon617 Member
    edited January 2013

    @unused said: appears to be getting better now

    Yeah, much faster now. Happy face.

  • My AWS cannot connect to my EDIS HK instance. When I ran traceroute I get @unused result.

  • WilliamWilliam Member, Provider

    Yes, as said, this is due to SunnyVision - Out of our control for now.

  • JyleeJylee Member, Provider

    oh no!
    shang hai,china→taiwan→he.net→hongkong

  • I say for people testing, wait a day or two then try again, it seems some routes are still messed up from the move.

    This signature is brought to you by the NSA. Spying on the entire world since 1952!

  • WilliamWilliam Member, Provider

    @Jylee said: shang hai,china→taiwan→he.net→hongkong

    Eh, what? That's the most unusual route i've ever seen in my life... China routing Traffic through Taiwan...

  • There is definitely something strange going on, from a he.net server on the west coast it sometimes routes he->sunnyvision->dead and sometimes routes to he->ntt->edis. (I did once see he->korea telecom->edis, not sure what to make of it.

    Sounds like nothing to do but wait until sunnyvision stops the announcement & the new routes to be fully propagated then optimized.

    Retired!

  • Hi all!
    we contacted upstreams already. SunnyVision doesn't seem to be in the mood for removing the old announcements. To be quite honest with you ... we didn't expect anything else.
    cheers, Gerhard @ EDIS

    one vps is never enough ;-) http://www.edis.at

  • by the way, outgoing connection from EDIS hk vm to entire city of macau is blocked. I cannot connect to any ip in Macau from my EDIS hk VM. e.g. www.ctm.net

    Designers: www.linkun.info

  • WilliamWilliam Member, Provider

    I have a look at it, probably HKIX Whitelisting related.

  • roughly ~320ms and 2-3mb/s download from switzerland now.
    for this distance it is performing extremely well :-)

  • @lincoln it started working for me now

    Retired!

  • WilliamWilliam Member, Provider

    @dnwk said: by the way, outgoing connection from EDIS hk vm to entire city of macau is blocked. I cannot connect to any ip in Macau from my EDIS hk VM. e.g. www.ctm.net

    Fix'd:

    1 1-208-255-158.static.edis.at (158.255.208.1) 0.461 ms 0.446 ms 0.508 ms
    2 teleone5-RGE.hkix.net (202.40.161.193) 3.397 ms 3.525 ms 3.628 ms
    3 z0l33.static.ctm.net (202.175.0.33) 7.486 ms 7.577 ms 7.571 ms

    @lincoln said: My AWS cannot connect to my EDIS HK instance

    Fix'd.

    @Wintereise said: This is how you should not route, contrary to what VR seems to think.

    Fix'd:

    traceroute to 118.23.98.73 (118.23.98.73), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
    1 1-208-255-158.static.edis.at (158.255.208.1) 0.699 ms 1.102 ms 1.097 ms
    2 192.168.168.2 (192.168.168.2) 0.614 ms 0.612 ms 0.688 ms
    3 203.131.243.13 (203.131.243.13) 1.318 ms 1.319 ms 1.313 ms
    4 * * *
    5 as-2.r21.newthk02.hk.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.5.213) 1.812 ms 1.855 ms 1.853 ms
    6 as-1.r25.tokyjp01.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.4.114) 56.873 ms 102.064 ms 102.523 ms
    7 ae-9.r20.tokyjp01.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.2.92) 52.709 ms 60.709 ms 54.603 ms
    8 ae-2.ocn.tokyjp01.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.12.198) 91.008 ms ae-1.ocn.tokyjp01.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.11.114) 57.040 ms 119.963 ms
    9 60.37.27.76 (60.37.27.76) 57.058 ms 118.23.168.12 (118.23.168.12) 57.036 ms 60.37.27.76 (60.37.27.76) 57.042 ms
    10 122.28.168.198 (122.28.168.198) 59.235 ms 61.083 ms 63.218 ms
    11 118.23.96.98 (118.23.96.98) 59.791 ms 59.797 ms 60.029 ms

    @ElliotJ said: Unfortunately, the speeds to my local connection (UK) maxes out at 16kB/sec on a 60mbit connection :(

    Fix'd.

    @Jylee said: shang hai,china→taiwan→he.net→hongkong

    (AFAIK) Fix'd (Please retrace, i have no server in China to test)

    Now i try to get some 2hours sleep before work :)

  • @William said: Now i try to get some 2hours sleep before work :)

    Baaah! Stop whining! Sleep is for the Non-Nerds. ;-)

    For those who care:
    You can now find me at https://talk.lowendspirit.com or https://www.hostballs.com

  • JyleeJylee Member, Provider

    @William
    fix now.. China→hk

    Can u add more bw on 128m hk vps? i think 120G is not enough- -

  • SpiritSpirit Disabled
    edited January 2013

    @Jylee said: i think 120G is not enough-

    lol :) What's logic behind this request? They have also bigger packages you know. Or you can maybe purchase additional bandwidth if you need it more.

  • @Spirit no logic, just dreams!

    Retired!

  • SpiritSpirit Disabled
    edited January 2013

    @unused I mean if customer need more resources than package offer that's usually problem of customer not host. It's on customer to purchase suitable plan not on host to increase resources for free per plan :)

    Imagine "Can u add more memory on 128MB hk vps? i think 128MB is not enough- -"

  • @Spirit :-) in the mainland you can only dream of good connectivity to the outside word. 120gb at that price is too generous considering the hefty cost of connectivity (probably $100/mbps) at low latency.

    Retired!

  • SpiritSpirit Disabled
    edited January 2013

    @unused this is what I thought too :)

  • JyleeJylee Member, Provider

    @Spirit
    no... i just asked if I can add more traffic(maybe cost some money)... because i have met those who didnot allow to add more traffic even if I accpeted to pay the money...

  • WilliamWilliam Member, Provider

    @Jylee said: Can u add more bw on 128m hk vps? i think 120G is not enough- -

    Technically: yes. In reality: no.
    The problem is that we pay mainland BW at 95%, with a low Mbit commit on a 100Mbit port to Unicom and Telecom (and unlimited to Railways and China Mobile)

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