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Low End VPN?

PetaByetPetaByet Member
edited December 2015 in General

http://lowendbox.com/blog/lowendvpn/

I smell abuse, and endless MaxMind issues for providers :p

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  • jarjar Provider

    Sometimes you gotta shake things up! :D I'm excited to see how it goes.

    Founder @ MXroute

  • @jarland said:
    Sometimes you gotta shake things up! :D I'm excited to see how it goes.

    Not really welcoming that, with the VPN.sh failure :)

    There could be better ones though.

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  • @jarland Are beta tests allowed here for VPNs? Cooking up something with my friend right now heh

    My comments are mine and mine alone, and do not reflect the opinion of my business and operations. Ex-wellknown shitposter.

  • jarjar Provider

    @theroyalstudent said:
    Are beta tests allowed here for VPNs? Cooking up something with my friend right now heh

    Hit me up when you get something going and we'll talk :)

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  • GM2015GM2015 Member
    edited December 2015

    I see it's pretty entertaining that there's a base64 encoded image of oneprovider reselling colocrossing in buffalo lol. I hope not too many people fall for it.

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  • VPN offers should be capped at much cheaper than VPS offers, else this just doesn't make sense.

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  • Interesting idea.

    Regarding capping at much cheaper, I've heard of quality being low with "cheap"

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  • jarjar Provider

    @rm_ said:
    VPN offers should be capped at much cheaper than VPS offers, else this just doesn't make sense.

    I think I agree and I think that'll be a not too distant adjustment.

    Founder @ MXroute

  • doghouchdoghouch Member
    edited December 2015

    @PetaByet said:
    http://lowendbox.com/blog/lowendvpn/

    I smell abuse, and endless MaxMind issues for providers :p

    I've tried offering VPN services before... (believe me, smashing your queries for MaxMind with 80% of them fraudulent isn't best thing to have to face)


    it's even worse when you're getting abuse reports every minute about idiots who torrent illegal movies without following the TOS

  • rm_ said: VPN offers should be capped at much cheaper than VPS offers, else this just doesn't make sense.

    OK, I don't operate either commercially, but surely the constant daily work to maintain, move, and support VPN services would make it much more expensive. You will need good throughput for everyone on 50 (or more) servers constantly being pressured by various groups. Tell me that's easier than maintaining a customer base with static VPSs. That said, I was able to get good service with a reasonable number of countries and maybe 100 servers available, for $45 per year.

  • @doghouch said:
    it's even worse when you're getting abuse reports every minute about idiots who torrent illegal movies without following the TOS

    Block everything other than ports for DNS, Mail, HTTP, HTTPS, SSH and FTP?

    Also, block outgoing connection to torrent trackers?

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  • @theroyalstudent
    Whether you like it or not, most people use commercial VPN for downloading music and movies - that's the business. I think there are very few people like me who do it to obfuscate tracking and Google results. The rest will set up their own as a matter of internal IT.

  • theroyalstudent said: Block everything other than ports for DNS, Mail, HTTP, HTTPS, SSH and FTP?

    Seed/listen on those ports?

    How to clean up a questionable reputation: throw the kids some BF/CM offers.

  • $7 for VPN is very expensive. Even PIA is 3.33/mo *yearly - many POPs.

    $7 just can't compete with others giants well established VPN provider. Just going to pity the new VPN 'startup' who will enter LETVPN market.

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  • rokok said: Even PIA is 3.33/mo *yearly

    And $48/per year is $4 per month. Not exactly a huge diff. But yeah, I agree that "low end" should probably be lower than the big guys like PIA.

    Honestly, I'm thinking that VPN is something that requires real scale in order to offer lower prices. Big guys will be cheap, and little guys will be expensive - no way around it. There's no way I'd go with a service that runs on a measly 40 servers in half a dozen countries unless they were a buck a month or something. But can that be done?

  • If its not about the price tag, its just a quick way to join deadpool.

    CEO of PT. Rokok Kopi Internet Tidur Tbk.

  • rokok said: f its not about the price tag, its just a quick way to join deadpool.

    Then the way to make money is to get into the popcorn business.

    Of course one could get into both - and break even. ha!

  • Who's so clever to make a rule of $7/m. It's too high in my opinion.

    RC5 cracker since 1998!

  • namhuynamhuy Member
    edited December 2015

    raised from $7 to $10, shared/reselling hosting, now entering VPN ? Will history repeats itself?

  • @Anna_Parker said:
    Who's so clever to make a rule of $7/m. It's too high in my opinion.

    He used the default pricing until the community can give better ideas on pricing.

  • Anna_Parker said: Who's so clever to make a rule of $7/m. It's too high in my opinion.

    Well we'll see. You don't get much for that in the commercial world. Besides, yearly price point for LET is $48. I'll be watching this thread to see what Low End offer we get with 200 servers and 50 countries. I'm not holding my breath though. VPN is not like VPS. A low end VPS is very useful, a low end VPN is useless.

  • netomxnetomx Member, Moderator

    Tacohost will offer VPNs :P

  • TrafficTraffic Member
    edited December 2015

    @netomx said:
    Tacohost will offer VPNs :P

    TacoVPN.com is taken but VPNTaco.com isn't!

    EDIT:

    No match for "TACOSHIELD.COM".
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  • doghouchdoghouch Member
    edited December 2015

    @theroyalstudent said:
    Also, block outgoing connection to torrent trackers?

    Don't worry, people who used the service fraudulently just ruined it for others. I ended up proposing to discontinue the service as it was taking a large portion of our abuse department.

  • netomxnetomx Member, Moderator

    @Traffic said:

    No match for "TACOSHIELD.COM".

    I do really have a name: RouterVPN.us :P

    But I haven't finished it yet

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  • dedicadosdedicados Member
    edited December 2015

    @netomx @traffic

    tacotaco.com is available just to let you know.

    edit: oh it is not!!!

    try this one TacosVpn.com

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    Nothing for the moment

  • netomxnetomx Member, Moderator

    @dedicados said:
    netomx traffic

    tacotaco.com is available just to let you know.

    edit: oh it is not!!!

    try this one TacosVpn.com

    TacoShield sounded way cooler :P

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  • IshaqIshaq Member, Provider

    netomx said: TacoShield sounded way cooler :P

    TacoGhost? :D

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  • I used to get the cheap cyberghost promos for years, then I took an arrow in the knee they somehow broke OpenVPN and haven't fixed it since. :(

    (((o(゚▽゚)o))) If privacy is outlawed, only outlaws will have privacy. (((o(゚▽゚)o)))

    ヽ(`Д´)ノ Everyone should run Tor on their idle servers.

  • 10GBPS UNCONTENDED UNMETERED anyone?

  • PetaByet said: 10GBPS UNCONTENDED UNMETERED anyone?

    If I can order OVH VPS's and push 30TB/month through them... a VPN provider could do that,too. It astonishes me that they don't and instead offer 2343536 locations that no one really needs.

    (((o(゚▽゚)o))) If privacy is outlawed, only outlaws will have privacy. (((o(゚▽゚)o)))

    ヽ(`Д´)ノ Everyone should run Tor on their idle servers.

  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Moderator

    PetaByet said: 10GBPS UNCONTENDED UNMETERED anyone?

    "Here at TacoShield, on our veggie plan we offered UNMEATERED connections!"

    For LET support, please visit the support desk.

  • Mexican water plan.

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  • @raindog308 said:

    Got any beefy plans?

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  • netomxnetomx Member, Moderator

    @lazyt said:
    Mexican water plan.

    i dont really get it, but you got a Thanks :P

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  • lazytlazyt Member
    edited December 2015

    Old joke about the bacteria in the water in the old Mexican Hotels giving people from the USA diarrhea. I forget what bacteria or what it was that was supposed to do it.

    I was trying for a play on as fast as sh*t through a goose.

    Have I mentioned how much I hate auto correct recently?

  • TacoShield.com is taken now ;)

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  • I really fail to see how anyone could start a company with what some of you are requiring.

    Have I mentioned how much I hate auto correct recently?

  • jarjar Provider

    @lazyt said:
    I really fail to see how anyone could start a company with what some of you are requiring.

    Unrealistic expectations are sort of a tradition here ;)

    Founder @ MXroute

  • This will attract a lot of low-quality VPN providers like PIA, pureVPN, vyprvpn and the usual spammers when it comes to getting fake-reviews out and spamming their affiliates all over the place.

    What you Americans use as VPN-providers is really just serving traffic directly to the security agencies.

    If you read the latest posts about "vpn security issues" and then a company like PIA has to release 5 or so software-upgrades to fix them while old and really reputable providers (perfect-privacy, airvpn) didn't even have the security flaws in the first place you can really only bang your head against a wall.

  • The VPN provider market is indeed a very sketchy one. Very dubious advertising tactics, selling a product which is fully based on lies, etc...

    It's also very difficult to make a significant profit for small players and I can see plenty of people seeing this as an easy to run business which makes an easy recipe for a lot of deadpools, specially from guys renting low-end VPSes to offer this kind of service.

    But this has been happening during the last years with the low end VPS market anyway.

  • lazyt said: I really fail to see how anyone could start a company with what some of you are requiring.

    They can't. The thing is what can a small provider offer that's worth anything? If a user is OK with small, then just get a $5 per year VPS instead. It's not like installing OpenVPN, or whatever you like, takes more than a few minutes for someone who knows how, which I assume is most people here.

  • @tr1cky said:
    This will attract a lot of low-quality VPN providers like PIA, pureVPN, vyprvpn and the usual spammers when it comes to getting fake-reviews out and spamming their affiliates all over the place.

    What you Americans use as VPN-providers is really just serving traffic directly to the security agencies.

    If you read the latest posts about "vpn security issues" and then a company like PIA has to release 5 or so software-upgrades to fix them while old and really reputable providers (perfect-privacy, airvpn) didn't even have the security flaws in the first place you can really only bang your head against a wall.

    Maybe the China GFW will block LEB some day? ;)

  • @theroyalstudent said:
    TacoShield.com is taken now ;)

    Remember I charge 1.5% of sales as the name provider...

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    • Why not run commercial OBS4 bridges for your VPN services?
    • If you are hoarding IPs, try Flash Proxies instead.

    If not VPN, then just a giant web-proxy like Squid running at your end and enforcing your TOS. Should give a higher profit margin than plain VPN services.

  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Moderator

    theroyalstudent said: TacoShield.com is taken now ;)

    Holy crap...it is!

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  • VPN is kinda expensive -,-

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  • NyrNyr Member

    So the first offer is now posted...

    http://lowendbox.com/blog/supervpn-10-off-vpn-packages/

    PPTP only hosted on $2/month VPSes purchased from LowEndTalk. Terms of service and privacy police nowhere to be seen.

    I'll include a quote from the FAQ...

    How do I contact support?
    The easiest and fastest way is through our Facebook fan page.

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  • Lol.

    "Do you keep logs?"
    "Depends what you are wanting to do."

    How about no?

    Dan you always get some funny stuff here.

    Nyr said: So the first offer is now posted...

    http://lowendbox.com/blog/supervpn-10-off-vpn-packages/

    PPTP only hosted on $2/month VPSes purchased from LowEndTalk. Terms of service and privacy police nowhere to be seen.

    I'll include a quote from the FAQ...

    Go give Vultr(referral) a try. | GNU/Linux http://debian.org

  • Looks shady...but anyway :)

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