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Interest in 100meg Unmetered VPS at $27/mo?
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Interest in 100meg Unmetered VPS at $27/mo?

CoreyCorey Member, Provider
edited November 2015 in General

I'm sure someone else has already done this before but I can't find who or where. Is there any interest in a 100meg unmetered vps at $27/mo? 1gig of ram. Or is this price too high? Keep in mind this is 100meg per vps, not shared on the node.

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  • Corey said: 100meg unmetered vps at $27/mo? 1gig of ram. Or is this price too high

    way to high.

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  • CoreyCorey Member, Provider

    @TarZZ92 said:
    way to high

    What would you expect the price to be? Can you link me some people that are doing it cheaper?

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  • RadiRadi Member, Provider

    If it is 100 mbit per VPS, maybe. If it is shared, no.

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  • CoreyCorey Member, Provider

    @Radi said:
    If it is 100 mbit per VPS, maybe. If it is shared, no.

    Yes 100mbit per vps.

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  • RadiRadi Member, Provider

    What will be your host node's connection?

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  • CoreyCorey Member, Provider

    @Radi said:
    What will be your host node's connection?

    2 + 1Gbit bonded.

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  • Delimiter's VPS Unlimited 100 offered this about 5 years ago for $20/month (1.5GB RAM, 100GB disk and 100Mbps). In its time it was very popular, but over the past couple of years customers prefer the gigabit connection with a TB allowance.

  • With OVH you get 10Gbit per node, and they charge about $3.5 for a 100 Mbit unmetered 2GB of RAM KVM.

  • CoreyCorey Member, Provider

    rm_ said: With OVH you get 10Gbit per node, and they charge about $3.5 for a 100 Mbit unmetered 2GB of RAM KVM.

    Thanks, I don't have the same buying power as ovh though.

    MarkTurner said: Delimiter's VPS Unlimited 100 offered this about 5 years ago for $20/month (1.5GB RAM, 100GB disk and 100Mbps). In its time it was very popular, but over the past couple of years customers prefer the gigabit connection with a TB allowance.

    Thank you for that insight.

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  • @rm_ said:
    With OVH you get 10Gbit per node, and they charge about $3.5 for a 100 Mbit unmetered 2GB of RAM KVM.

    Not everyone is OVH. Keep that in mind.

    If I take a look at the market in my country, literally every provider is giving you a flat for traffic. That means unmetered 100 Mbit/s without bullshit like 10 Mbit/s after 5 TB or 0.XX € per GB after 5 TB. Sometimes even unmetered 1 Gbit/s but those are rare and mostly heavily shared.

    I'm on vacation in Belize.

  • rm_rm_ Member
    edited November 2015

    Hidden_Refuge said: Not everyone is OVH.

    And your point is? Now you will tell me how his stuff is magically so much more high-quality than what OVH provides, etc? "Sure we try to rip you off for 10x more expensive as OVH, but uh... you know what, OVH sucks! [add some story about how they didn't reply someone's ticket back in 2012, or how their ancient OVZ VPS lineup sucked]"

    Anyways if you don't like OVH, there's also Online.net. Either 200 Mbit for 3 EUR on Scaleway, or 200 Mbit from 6 EUR on dedis. Both a far cry from ridiculous and out-of-touch $27.

    If you don't like both, I dunno, how about Wedos? 100 Mbit 2GB KVM for ~4.5 EUR. And the list goes on and on. Finally there's even DigitalOcean who do not meter the bandwidth at the moment. Lots of options and 100 Mbit is not something you can charge $27 for today. Heck you can get some dedis even in the US for less than that.

  • @rm_

    Wow and nope. All I wanted to say is that not everyone can afford or has the intrastructure to offer what OVH offers at the same price level or even cheaper.

    I didn't say I don't like OVH.... or other providers. I agree that $27 is too much.

    What's your problem?

    I'm on vacation in Belize.

  • You can probably get away with that pricing at a place where you don't find people who are familiar with cheaper alternatives, like some marketers, seos and small business owners.

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  • exception0x876exception0x876 Member, Provider

    It is too much. For me it would be more attractive to use 30TB @1GBps shared.

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  • @exception0x876 said:
    It is too much. For me it would be more attractive to use 30TB 1GBps shared.

    You do realize you can't get 30TB on 100Mbit even if it's dedicated?

  • rm_rm_ Member
    edited November 2015

    Hidden_Refuge said: All I wanted to say is that not everyone can afford or has the intrastructure to offer what OVH offers at the same price level or even cheaper.

    That you [speaking of a provider] cannot afford something, is solely your problem. Nobody is going to buy from you just because you are a small potatoes operation who doesn't have the scale to offer an attractive deal. Simple as that. Just the [complete information] market at work. As someone said above, you can probably sell whatever to a misinformed user who isn't aware of the current fair price for a certain amount of specs. But to me this would look like a borderline scam.

    Hidden_Refuge said: What's your problem?

    People spouting vague b/s to sound smarter than they are.

  • IshaqIshaq Member, Provider

    vedran said: You do realize you can't get 30TB on 100Mbit even if it's dedicated?

    On a symmetrical 100Mbps line, you can use a maximum of 33TB a month, that's assuming the bandwidth is used constantly 24/7.

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  • exception0x876exception0x876 Member, Provider

    @vedran said:
    You do realize you can't get 30TB on 100Mbit even if it's dedicated?

    Is that so?

    100/8 = 12.5MB/sec
    12.53600 = 45000MB/hour
    45000
    24 = 1080000MB/day
    1080000*30 = 32400000MB/month
    32400000 / 1024 = 31640.625 GB/month
    31640.625 / 1024 = 30.8990478515625 TB/month

    So in ideal world you can.

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  • exception0x876 said: in ideal world

    Good luck with that!

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  • teknolaizteknolaiz Member
    edited November 2015

    @vedran said:
    You do realize you can't get 30TB on 100Mbit even if it's dedicated?

    In case where you get full speed and use it all day long the whole month you can get a bit more than 30 TB with a 100 Mbit/s connection.

    100 Megabit/second in *byte are

    Per second: 12.5 Megabyte

    Per minute: 750 Megabyte

    Per hour: 45,00 Gigabyte

    Per day: 1,08 Terabyte

    Per month: 32,40 Terabyte

    Reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_rate_units and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_device_bit_rates

    So as he is offering VPSs I suppose he will set the limit to exactly 100 Mbit/s (12.5 MB/s). He said it would be dedicated per VPS. So if someone would plan to actually use the 100 Mbit/s 24x7 a whole month and would really get the max speed all the time 32 TB are no issue.

    I'm on vacation in Belize.

  • @Hidden_Refuge said:
    So as he is offering VPSs I suppose he will set the limit to exactly 100 Mbit/s (12.5 MB/s). He said it would be dedicated per VPS. So if someone would plan to actually use the 100 Mbit/s 24x7 a whole month and would really get the max speed all the time 32 TB are no issue.

    Depends if its full duplex? Thats 100 up 100 down. Max 64,80TB/month

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    Different.

  • teknolaizteknolaiz Member
    edited November 2015

    @TinyTunnel_Tom said:
    Depends if its full duplex? Thats 100 up 100 down. Max 64,80TB/month

    My example was just a simple download example. So basically if you only keep downloading a huge file all the time into /dev/null at full speed the whole month long. Should have mentioned that probably.

    If you of course go full duplex and do both at the same time you get the double amount of used traffic. So it actually gets even easier to just use over 30 TB with doing down and upload tasks.

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  • But remember there is going to be a contention somewhere.

    100Mbps dedicated - where does it go from dedicated to contended?

    Lets say you have 10GE connection then thats (in vague terms) 100 VPS maximum on that server. Which is connected back to a 10GE port, which is aggregated into what? 40GE, 100GE? Has the contention started yet?

    Then that is connected back to a router with 40GE/100GE? aggregate of either? Then upstream capacity, is contended there?

    Clearly this concept of 100Mbps dedicated capacity, isn't real. 100Mbps at $1/Mbps = $100/month and its sold for $5.

    There must be a contention in there somewhere. If you study OVH's network map and work out their capacity out of their sites, its humongous but then work out how many servers are there, its clearly not dedicated capacity.

    I think when these people talk of dedicated capacity it means that there is sufficient capacity from that server to the core of the network and you can expect under most conditions the dedicated capacity.

  • @MarkTurner you've very valid points there. And I totally agree that something like that isn't real but it still would be possible if not everyone is doing the same at the same time and the backbones and et cetera aren't saturated.

    Let's just call it "best case scenario".

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  • Hidden_Refuge said: Let's just call it "best case scenario".

    There were some photos of some servers, I think on Online's network attached to a little 1U switch. If I remember rightly (I may not) they had 40 servers attached each advertised with 200Mbps and 2 x 1GE uplink.

    This 'dedicated' capacity is just marketing babble just unlike unlimited internet or unlimited storage.

  • At that price range, I'm better off purchasing a Kimsufi that will offer higher specs and guaranteed resources.

  • rm_rm_ Member
    edited November 2015

    MarkTurner said: they had 40 servers attached each advertised with 200Mbps and 2 x 1GE uplink.

    LOL nope of course not -- and you should know better than trying to spread such silly slander against your competitor. Their whole "guaranteed bandwidth" deal is basically how many servers share a switch uplink without counting in any overselling. 200 Mbit * 40, that'll have to be 8 Gbit, or most likely just 10GE (and not 40 servers, but 48).

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  • WilliamWilliam Member, Provider
    edited November 2015

    Not on kidechire which is uplinked by 2x1GE only. Illiad also does not put 48 servers in a rack as they use 48U racks, it is likely around 40 to maximum 45.

  • @rm_ said:
    LOL nope of course not -- and you should know better than trying to spread such silly slander against your competitor. Their whole "guaranteed bandwidth" deal is basically how many servers share a switch uplink without counting in any overselling. 200 Mbit * 40, that'll have to be 8 Gbit, or most likely just 10GE (and not 40 servers, but 48).

    It was the SC Gen 2s. There is a video somewhere

    Different.

  • William said: Not on kidechire which is uplinked by 2x1GE only.

    He mentioned servers "advertised with 200Mbps", so wasn't talking about the Kidechire.

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