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  • rm_rm_ IPv6 Advocate, Veteran
    edited November 2015

    Junkless said: "CAN" is the word. Technically, I CAN dressup like powergirl (showing my moobs and hairy legs). But doesn't mean that it won't be amusing if I decide to go work dressed that way.

    Depending on where you work.

    As for home storage servers, personally I have a primary one with 10 TB of usable space (7x2TB RAID6), and a backup one with 6 TB (4x2TB RAID5). Also have some 2-3TB drives idle/empty, but as both RAIDs have about 1.5 TB free each, there's no need to expand further for the moment...

  • exception0x876exception0x876 Member, Host Rep, LIR

    I wonder if this thing can store 80TB of data :D
    https://www.amazon.com/clouddrive/unlimited

  • RolterRolter Member
    edited November 2015

    @exception0x876 said:
    I wonder if this thing can store 80TB of data :D
    https://www.amazon.com/clouddrive/unlimited

    Someone on Reddit dumped around 32TB's on to it in like a week from their 1Gbit connection and amazon did not complain about it .

    But amazon clouddrive has really messed up TOS (It basically says - "Ones you upload data to clouddrive, they can practically do anything with it and own the data.") . Which is one of the reasons OP wants a server , rather than object storage , to be the only one with access to his/her data.

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  • exception0x876exception0x876 Member, Host Rep, LIR

    @Rolter said:
    Which is one of the reasons OP wants a server , rather than object storage , to be the only one with access to his/her data.

    OP also mentioned he is open to encrypting data before putting it to object storage

  • someSguysomeSguy Member
    edited November 2015

    @exception0x876 said:
    I wonder if this thing can store 80TB of data :D
    https://www.amazon.com/clouddrive/unlimited

    I am using acdcli to store data in cloud drive in a encfs container. It's certainly not something stable. (FUSE write support is not 100%, etc..)

    @MarkTurner : I suppose you are from delimiter? "Storage" VPS : max 500GB..
    Most "storage vps" offers here on lowendtalk go about 3TB max..

  • Do you think if you perma delete your files from there, you'll also erase it from ALL of their servers? I highly don't think so.

    You made me read their TOS and it's like what you've said. Given they make backups of the data and manipulate the images to present them in multiple format, I doubt that even perma-deleting solves the issue.

    Luckily, I only dumped free to use images and some project images as nth backup there. No longer.

    Rolter said: But amazon clouddrive has really messed up TOS (It basically says - "Ones you upload data to clouddrive, they can practically do anything with it and own the data.")

  • bersybersy Member
    edited November 2015

    Hadriel said: Still no pricing or details or link to order? Any idea on when?

    I guess, @MarkTurner ?

  • someSguy said: I suppose you are from delimiter? "Storage" VPS : max 500GB.. Most "storage vps" offers here on lowendtalk go about 3TB max..

    Who said anything about 500GB? Delimiter's StorageVPS scale upto 100TB per disk

    You can subdivide the storage as you need into separate disks, its very flexible.

  • bersy said: I guess

    These are not our modern storage VPS products, these are some antiquated thing from 2013/2014

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  • @Setsura said:
    Backing up parts of my home NAS of 80~TB.

    How good is your Internet connection at the source? Initially pushing stuff of the order of 10s of Tbyte is going to take some time unless you have a very nice fibre link, and pulling it all back down in case of a disaster requiring a full restore could be painful too. As most of it is likely static, you could be better off saving it to multiple external drives & storing them at friend's houses so they are off-site and only keeping the actively changing data to a truly remote location?

  • MarkTurner said: These are not our modern storage VPS products, these are some antiquated thing from 2013/2014

    http://wiki.delimiter.com/display/DEL/StorageVPS:+Quick+Start is it modern one?

  • @MarkTurner said:

    Well, I can't find anything about storage vps on the delimiter.com website. Google only suggests this page; https://clients.delimitervps.com/cart.php?gid=63

  • @bersy - this is the wiki article on it:
    http://wiki.delimiter.com/display/DEL/StorageVPS:+Quick+Start

    The ones you mentioned are non-HA, just openvz containers backed by a pile of disks. The modern ones are full HA.

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  • For kicks - 100TB StorageVPS:

    df -h:

  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Veteran

    5% reserved for superuser really hurts at the 100TB scale :-)

    How long did that mkfs take?

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  • raindog308 said: 5% reserved for superuser really hurts at the 100TB scale :-)

    I know that whats I thought! Need to tune that.

    How long did that mkfs take?

    Just playing with software RAID0 to stripe across multiple disks, it helps performance as it uses the multipathing properly

  • SetsuraSetsura Member
    edited November 2015

    @exception0x876 said:
    I wonder if this thing can store 80TB of data :D
    https://www.amazon.com/clouddrive/unlimited

    I'm currently trying to! Gonna be a while though.

    @Rolter said:
    Someone on Reddit dumped around 32TB's on to it in like a week from their 1Gbit connection and amazon did not complain about it .

    But amazon clouddrive has really messed up TOS (It basically says - "Ones you upload data to clouddrive, they can practically do anything with it and own the data.") . Which is one of the reasons OP wants a server , rather than object storage , to be the only one with access to his/her data.

    I had read the TOS when I signed up and I thought it was mostly fine, I don't recall seeing anything about this, I'll have to re-read it. Thanks. And yes, I like the idea of being the only one(presumably) with access to the server, so even if my stuff is encrypted, in theory no one should have access to it to just "take a peak" or anything. At least not super easily anyway.

    @exception0x876 said: OP also mentioned he is open to encrypting data before putting it to object storage

    Indeed, that is certainly within the plan.

    @MeAtExampleDotCom said:
    How good is your Internet connection at the source? Initially pushing stuff of the order of 10s of Tbyte is going to take some time unless you have a very nice fibre link, and pulling it all back down in case of a disaster requiring a full restore could be painful too. As most of it is likely static, you could be better off saving it to multiple external drives & storing them at friend's houses so they are off-site and only keeping the actively changing data to a truly remote location?

    I only have 20mbps upload sadly(thanks America), but that is about 6TiB per month out if I go full all the time, which I usually am. I also have plans (mentioned on the first page somewhere) to colo either my NAS, or a secondary NAS nearby my home on a gbit connection and then I can bring drives over to the colo and plug them in and then backup from there.

  • In case you wanted to know how 200TB (2 x 100TB in software RAID0) runs:

    time mkfs.ext4 /dev/md0

    >

    real 3m7.465s
    user 1m26.982s
    sys 0m3.914s

    df -h:

    /dev/md0 195T 20K 185T 1% /mnt

    And the infamous but compulsory dd test ;) :

    dd if=/dev/zero of=test bs=64k count=16k conv=fdatasync
    16384+0 records in
    16384+0 records out
    1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB) copied, 2.61358 s, 411 MB/s

    Fio is better as you can run parallel tests:

    15 jobs/1MB blocks:

    write: io=63751MB, bw=1061.2MB/s, iops=1061, runt= 60079msec

    If we drop to 64KB blocks like the DD test, things getting pretty crazy:

    write: io=76504MB, bw=1273.9MB/s, iops=20381, runt= 60058msec

    20k IOPS is not bad

  • Any way to know your pricing without signing up?

  • 2bb3 said: Any way to know your pricing without signing up?

    The landing page isn't up yet, what storage do you need?

  • RolterRolter Member
    edited November 2015

    @Setsura said:
    I had read the TOS when I signed up and I thought it was mostly fine, I don't recall seeing anything about this, I'll have to re-read it.

    The TOS is like i said ,here are some references

    http://www.zdnet.com/article/no-privacy-on-amazons-cloud-drive/

    www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201376540

    I would only use it as a backup to another backup , even google drive is better in that sense , atleast for now.

  • keep in mind that bad attempt at humanity, dude from lostprophets that was convicted of raping a 1 yr old, had a 27tb collection.

    @raindog308 said:
    Son, you've just stated you own 24TB of porn.

    Maybe deciding where to store it isn't the real problem...

  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Veteran

    raptorpeanutbuttr said: keep in mind that bad attempt at humanity, dude from lostprophets that was convicted of raping a 1 yr old, had a 27tb collection.

    I prefer not to keep that in my mind.

  • @raptorpeanutbuttr said:
    keep in mind that bad attempt at humanity, dude from lostprophets that was convicted of raping a 1 yr old, had a 27tb collection.

    Interesting factoid you know. English is not my first language, so I'm not sure I understand the relevance of this though?

    Also, I don't really feel like talking about the subject, but who finds 1 y/o attractive? That is like, idk, weird.

  • @Setsura said:
    Also, I don't really feel like talking about the subject, but who finds 1 y/o attractive? That is like, idk, weird.

    yes. It was close to 24tb and a porn collection and I had recently re-read the news about the trial and the 27tb was a new fact for me. "keep in mind".well,I get the next pixelsmack

  • Setsura said: but who finds 1 y/o attractive? That is like, idk, weird.

    Understatement of the year right here

  • Colocrossing server or backupsy.

  • @KeithVPS said:
    Colocrossing server or backupsy.

    Backupsy: 2TB for $80..
    Colocrossing: max 4x1TB..

  • SetsuraSetsura Member
    edited November 2015

    Was mention on the first page, but thank you anyway.

    @bigcat said:
    Understatement of the year right here

    Yeah, I don't know any better word for it. I don't believe it is my place to attach labels like "sick" or something, that is for people who are my betters, like a court judge, to decide.

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