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Looking for a large storage server

Looking for a large storage server

SetsuraSetsura Member
edited November 2015 in Requests

I'm looking for something like the FS-30T(https://ovh.com/us/dedicated-servers/storage/) from OVH, any location in the world other than OVH covered ones, namely France. I'm okay with Canada if it isn't in BHS.

Spec list goes here:

CPU: Some newer quad core, perhaps an E3

Memory: 32GB ECC

Disk: Minimum 30TB in any disk configuration you want, I don't need a raid card per se, but if you want to include one I won't say no.

Network: 1gbps port with at least 20TB bandwidth allotment

IPs: /28 or /29 included ipv6 optional but preferred

Budget: 160USD or less would be nice, but I'd consider paying above.

Location: Anywhere not France.

If anyone here can do this, or maybe has an idea where I could find this let me know.

Edit: Changed pricing details.

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  • MarkTurnerMarkTurner Member, Provider

    What about as a Storage VPS?

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  • @Setsura said: any location in the world other than OVH covered ones, namely France. I'm okay with Canada if it isn't in BHS.

    If you don't want it in an OVH location then honestly, then I wouldn't have high hopes of an OVH price.

    This is about the only storage option that I know of that is around that price with decent support and network...

    http://www.reliablesite.net/dedicated-servers/storage-server/32tb-hdd-server

  • SetsuraSetsura Member
    edited November 2015

    @MarkTurner said: What about as a Storage VPS?

    Would prefer a dedi, but if it was a beefy VPS maybe.

    @IThinkUFailed said: If you don't want it in an OVH location then honestly, then I wouldn't have high hopes of an OVH price.

    More than a few places have matched their offers, I'm not expecting magic here, but I figure I can at least ask.

    This is about the only storage option that I know of that is around that price with decent support and network... http://www.reliablesite.net/dedicated-servers/storage-server/32tb-hdd-server

    This could be an option, thanks.

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  • MarkTurnerMarkTurner Member, Provider

    What is the application of the server?

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  • SetsuraSetsura Member
    edited November 2015

    @MarkTurner said: What is the application of the server?

    Backing up parts of my home NAS of 80~TB.

    Edit: Also, my reason for not wanting OVH locations is because I already have two of their FS-30T servers, one in France, one in BHS. I need other locations. I have nothing against OVH, I like them actually.

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  • MarkTurnerMarkTurner Member, Provider

    Setsura said: Backing up parts of my home NAS of 80~TB.

    Ouch!

    Ok - where is home? US/EU/Asia? I assume you're going to want some decent network for that?

    If you just want pure backup there are cheaper options. What OS are you running on your NAS? Is it a hardware NAS (ie vendor locked OS) or Linux/FreeBSD/Solaris NAS?

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  • @MarkTurner said:

    I live in California, US. I have an okay-ish home connection, but I have some colo space nearby that I will transfer my NAS over to eventually and then back it up from there.

    Also, I don't per se need a server, but I would prefer it so I can run my own software I made for comparing hashes of files within archives and running them against my central DB of file hashes and other magic stuff. I could probably work with something S3-like maybe. And my NAS runs debian.

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  • MarkTurnerMarkTurner Member, Provider

    S3 style would be cheaper and probably faster as in our implementation your traffic is being distributed to multiple headends and then the backend the traffic is distributed over hundreds of disks so you won't end up with the hotspots that you would on these large archiving disks.

    Same thing with our Storage VPS products, they are full HA KVM (multiple path storage, fully clustered/distributed storage, no local storage).

    I'll PM you some links to test.

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  • @MarkTurner said: S3 style would be cheaper and probably faster...

    I can't say I disagree about faster, but I've found most of the S3-like stuff to be way overpriced.

    I'll PM you some links to test.

    Okay

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  • MarkTurnerMarkTurner Member, Provider

    I can't say I disagree about faster, but I've found most of the S3-like stuff to be way overpriced.

    If you've got the volume, we can be aggressive on S3 or Storage VPS.

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  • @MarkTurner said: If you've got the volume, we can be aggressive on S3 or Storage VPS.

    Well just going by OVH's pricing for example of the 30TB model at listed price of 155USD. That should end up 0.0055USD per usable GiB. Which I've found pretty hard to beat.

    It would seem backblaze's upcoming B2 storage S3-like thing is going to be $0.005 per GiB, which is pretty crazy. I may try it.

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  • MarkTurnerMarkTurner Member, Provider

    Backblaze's 'S3' product is awful, I wrote a breakdown on it somewhere on here. If you look at the hardware used to power it, its ok for backups ie Backblaze backup but for object storage, their platform is way too underdimensioned. SATA disks connected to a HBA with SATA expanders, the contention is all over the place, never mind the i3 CPU and single uplink.

    OVH is good price but 8TB disks are still slow. We were testing them for our storage service, the performance is ok for archiving but anything more than that is going to be slow. Personally I'd rather have more spindles and smaller disks.

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  • SetsuraSetsura Member
    edited November 2015

    @MarkTurner said: Backblaze's 'S3' product is awful, I wrote a breakdown on it somewhere on here. If you look at the hardware used to power it, its ok for backups ie Backblaze backup but for object storage, their platform is way too underdimensioned. SATA disks connected to a HBA with SATA expanders, the contention is all over the place, never mind the i3 CPU and single uplink.

    They recently made a blog post with their updated pod design to meet the demands of their B2 thing, upgrades include dual 10GE and E5 xeons, etc. You can check it out here: https://www.backblaze.com/blog/cloud-storage-hardware/

    They do still seem to be using the port multiplying stuff though, so who knows how much good it'll do.

    OVH is good price but 8TB disks are still slow. We were testing them for our storage service, the performance is ok for archiving but anything more than that is going to be slow. Personally I'd rather have more spindles and smaller disks.

    They are using 6TB heium ones for the FS30T, and I'm not terribly worried about the performance of them, they seem to have no issue hitting around 150MB/s, which is more than I'll ever use on them anyway.

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  • MarkTurnerMarkTurner Member, Provider

    Setsura said: They recently made a blog post with their updated pod design

    Thats definitely an improvement, still contended SATA though. But big leap forward in terms of CPU and network. It will probably take a few months for those systems to filter in. 8GB RAM on an old quad core is still going to make for low performance.

    Setsura said: They are using 6TB heium ones for the FS30T

    I think OVH's offer is good and their network is (usually) rock-solid.

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  • @MarkTurner said: Thats definitely an improvement, still contended SATA though. But big leap forward in terms of CPU and network. It will probably take a few months for those systems to filter in. 8GB RAM on an old quad core is still going to make for low performance.

    Yeah, another big plus in my mind is that their datacenter is quite literally an hour away from me, so maybe my speed to them will be good. I'll at least give it an honest try.

    @MarkTurner said: I think OVH's offer is good and their network is (usually) rock-solid.

    They generally have very good hardware for the price, and network is generally "okay" enough for me. It is why I have a few servers with them(including two FS30).

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  • @Setsura said: This could be an option, thanks.

    I understand some places will match OVH's prices but then you might suffer elsewhere. I hope you can find what you're after and if I find anything else then I will post them here.

  • HassanHassan Member, Provider

    @Setsura said: I'm looking for something like the FS-30T(https://ovh.com/us/dedicated-servers/storage/) from OVH, any location in the world other than OVH covered ones, namely France. I'm okay with Canada if it isn't in BHS.

    Spec list goes here:

    CPU: Some newer quad core, perhaps an E3

    Memory: 32GB ECC

    Disk: Minimum 30TB in any disk configuration you want, I don't need a raid card per se, but if you want to include one I won't say no.

    Network: 1gbps port with at least 20TB bandwidth allotment

    IPs: /28 or /29 included ipv6 optional but preferred

    Budget: 160USD or less would be nice, but I'd consider paying above.

    Location: Anywhere not France.

    If anyone here can do this, or maybe has an idea where I could find this let me know.

    Edit: Changed pricing details.

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  • MarkTurner said: Thats definitely an improvement, still contended SATA though.

    can you show delimiter vs B2 benchmark?

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  • MarkTurnerMarkTurner Member, Provider

    tommy said: can you show delimiter vs B2 benchmark?

    I have nothing under laboratory conditions, but I have had customers run a series of tests to their object storage from various locations in the US and from the same locations to us; in each occasion our performance was a magnitude higher.

    Their biggest problem is that they suffer from the burst/stall/burst/stall problem especially on uploads. Our S3 platform is all fronted by large NVMe's so all uploads are staged on the NVMe's and then spooled off to slower HDDs

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  • mikeyurmikeyur Member, Provider

    @MarkTurner said: I think OVH's offer is good and their network is (usually) rock-solid.

    @Setsura said: They generally have very good hardware for the price, and network is generally "okay" enough for me. It is why I have a few servers with them(including two FS30).

    I'd just make sure you test bandwidth to/from the boxes you'll be backing up at different times of the day. At peak hours the OVH link to Seattle/SIX can get hella overloaded, some days I'm lucky if I can push 5Mbps in the evening.

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  • @mikeyur said: I'd just make sure you test bandwidth to/from the boxes you'll be backing up at different times of the day. At peak hours the OVH link to Seattle/SIX can get hella overloaded, some days I'm lucky if I can push 5Mbps in the evening.

    Yeah it can happen in NY area too. Luckily the routes to my home seem okay most of the day.

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  • exception0x876exception0x876 Member, Provider
    edited November 2015

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  • SetsuraSetsura Member
    edited November 2015

    @exception0x876 said: https://www.hetzner.de/us/hosting/produkte_rootserver/sx131

    Oh wow, I wasn't aware of this, thanks.

    Edit: Didn't notice the setup fee of 170EUR, hm, may still be nice though.

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  • Setsura said: Backing up parts of my home NAS of 80~TB.

    Don't you sometimes feel it would be simpler to just let it all go?

  • @singsing said: Don't you sometimes feel it would be simpler to just let it all go?

    Sometimes, but not today.

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  • rds100rds100 Member
    edited November 2015

    Is the content you want backed up dynamic or static? If it's just old collection of movies you could consider buying some tape storage device and backing up there. No monthly recurring costs.

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  • @rds100 said: Is the content you want backed up dynamic or static? If it's just old collection of movies you could consider buying some tape storage device and backing up there. No monthly recurring costs.

    Mostly static, but I add new stuff all the time. And yeah, tape backups are actually on my to-do list at some point since I believe the cartridges are cheaper than hard drives.

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  • @ru_tld they are leaseweb re sellers they can provide some offers in storage server

    And @Clouvider can provide some server in London

    and contact @qps they can do some custom offers and have brief chat with @MarkTurner

    he also can do some good deals

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  • anyone ordered ks2 recently and got 2 tb disk instead of 1?

  • I'm in the same boat but for 20TB.

  • @MarkTurner said: S3 style would be cheaper and probably faster as in our implementation your traffic is being distributed to multiple headends and then the backend the traffic is distributed over hundreds of disks so you won't end up with the hotspots that you would on these large archiving disks.

    Same thing with our Storage VPS products, they are full HA KVM (multiple path storage, fully clustered/distributed storage, no local storage).

    I'll PM you some links to test.

    I might have missed it from the previous thread, but have you fully released the storage VPS product? The Storage VPS products previously talked about, you said weren't the final options I think. Looking forward to your offering to see how it compares.

  • For backups something like Amazon Glacier or Google Nearline often works out pretty cheap.

    Other cheaper storage servers might be https://www.online.net/en/dedicated-server/dedibox-st48 with 48TB disks for 220€/month or http://www.euserv.com/en/dedicated-server/filer-rootserver/v4/filer-xxl-v4.php with 32TB disks for 190€/month.

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  • WilliamWilliam Member, Provider

    haha, you want OVH pricing outside of OVH? Are you insane? You will not get that.

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  • SetsuraSetsura Member
    edited November 2015

    @William said: haha, you want OVH pricing outside of OVH? Are you insane? You will not get that.

    Well if you read the thread you'd see I don't expect much. I've already found two places offering close pricing(reliablesite and hetzner), and the reason for not wanting OVH is because I already have two of their storage servers in each location they offer. I am also willing to pay somewhat above OVH pricing, as my OP says. I figure it does not hurt to ask at least, and I did get two options out of it, so I've hardly come back empty handed.

    Unless you have something useful to say, I'd appreciate it if you not post useless comments about "lolovhpricing", I'm well aware of that already.

    @cidero said: For backups something like Amazon Glacier or Google Nearline often works out pretty cheap.

    Surely, but I'm looking for actual servers foremost

    @cidero said: Other cheaper storage servers might be https://www.online.net/en/dedicated-server/dedibox-st48 with 48TB disks for 220€/month or http://www.euserv.com/en/dedicated-server/filer-rootserver/v4/filer-xxl-v4.php with 32TB disks for 190€/month.

    online.net is France, I have that covered, euserv is an option I did not know about I'll add it to my list, thank you.

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  • MarkTurnerMarkTurner Member, Provider

    Unless you are actually going to put 30TB of content on there day 1 then you're going to be saving money on something like object storage.

    You can just scale it up and pay as you need. So if you're using 1TB day 1 then 10TB 60 days later you're not paying the excess you don't need.

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  • SetsuraSetsura Member
    edited November 2015

    @MarkTurner said: Unless you are actually going to put 30TB of content on there day 1 then you're going to be saving money on something like object storage.

    You can just scale it up and pay as you need. So if you're using 1TB day 1 then 10TB 60 days later you're not paying the excess you don't need.

    My aversion for object storage like things is mostly the lack of control over the data security, while I can certainly encrypt all I want before sending the data out, I sleep somewhat better at night knowing it is on a dedi I lease and in theory no one should have access to(other than physical access, but that is another debate). But as I said, I'm not exactly opposed to spending some money, so object storage + some servers is something I am considering too. Never hurts to have more backups in place.

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  • MarkTurnerMarkTurner Member, Provider

    Even KVM Storage VPS would allow you to scale up and give you more control over your data. You can just keep adding space as you need it. Our Storage VPS will allow 100TB per disk.

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  • @MarkTurner said: Even KVM Storage VPS would allow you to scale up and give you more control over your data. You can just keep adding space as you need it. Our Storage VPS will allow 100TB per disk.

    Still no pricing or details or link to order? Any idea on when?

  • raindog308raindog308 Super Moderator

    singsing said: Don't you sometimes feel it would be simpler to just let it all go?

    Once you've assembled an 80TB porn collection, you don't want to let it go...

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  • SetsuraSetsura Member
    edited November 2015

    @raindog308 said: Once you've assembled an 80TB porn collection, you don't want to let it go...

    Actually only a third of it is porn I think. I mostly don't backup that part of my collection since I can easily get it all back anyway. The stuff I don't want to lose is my own created content like raw video and photos I've taken over the years, as well as my raw graphics assets from when I did graphic design and such. Things I can't really reproduce easily.

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  • raindog308raindog308 Super Moderator

    Son, you've just stated you own 24TB of porn.

    Maybe deciding where to store it isn't the real problem...

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  • GM2015GM2015 Member
    edited November 2015

    That's a good one.

    How would you find the time to watch 24TB of educational movies?

    Hetzner auctions would be really great choice to stay on topic.

    Setsura said: Actually only a third of it is porn I think.

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  • Why on earth would anyone need that much porn? Unless it's in 4k + 120 hz 3D with some VR elements embedded.

  • MarkTurnerMarkTurner Member, Provider

    Hadriel said: Still no pricing or details or link to order? Any idea on when?

    Which do you want object storage or Storage VPS?

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  • SetsuraSetsura Member
    edited November 2015

    @raindog308 said: Son, you've just stated you own 24TB of porn.

    Maybe deciding where to store it isn't the real problem...

    Well if you had actually read the post instead of just the part that interested you, you'd see what I'm interested in storing is my own content that I cannot replace. Having a porn collection is besides the point here. If you don't approve or otherwise perhaps have some complex about talking about pornography publicly I'd ask you make a discussion of it elsewhere(perhaps the cest pit?).

    @Junkless said: Why on earth would anyone need that much porn? Unless it's in 4k + 120 hz 3D with some VR elements embedded.

    I do not per se "need" it, I got most of it from work actually. I used to work at a professional video studio, clients sometimes include pornography studios. Getting free copies of all my video work is just a bonus of sorts, one that I don't complain about. Also, as you speculated, a lot of it is the raw recorded video from the cameras. It is actually surprisingly little in total content.

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  • @Setsura said: I do not per se "need" it, I got most of it from work actually. I used to work at a professional video studio, clients sometimes include pornography studios. Getting free copies of all my video work is just a bonus of sorts, one that I don't complain about. Also, as you speculated, a lot of it is the raw recorded video from the cameras. It is actually surprisingly little in total content.

    I think what everyone wants to say is "You gonna share that, bro?"

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  • raindog308raindog308 Super Moderator

    Setsura said: Well if you had actually read the post instead of just the part that interested you, you'd see what I'm interested in storing is my own content that I cannot replace. Having a porn collection is besides the point here. If you don't approve or otherwise perhaps have some complex about talking about pornography publicly I'd ask you make a discussion of it elsewhere(perhaps the cest pit?).

    Whoa, dude. I didn't really mean anything other than to make a joke for the community's amusement.

    • I joked that 80TB was porn
    • You said, no, only a third
    • I pointed out that having a 24TB porn collection is still pretty damn unusual
    • you jumped into speculating if I had a complex

    80TB of home NAS storage is a lot in 2015 and highly unusual. Stating you have 24TB of porn is likewise a lot in 2015 and highly unusual. When I read the internet, I find that things that are highly unusual tend to be joked about. That's all.

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  • SetsuraSetsura Member
    edited November 2015

    @IThinkUFailed said: I think what everyone wants to say is "You gonna share that, bro?"

    It is all stuff commercially available, and probably available elsewhere, private trackers perhaps? I could suggest some places probably if you want.

    @raindog308 said: Whoa, dude. I didn't really mean anything other than to make a joke for the community's amusement. etcetc

    Sorry English is not my first language, I don't really understand joking too well. I had not intended to be rude either, I was simply suggesting if you did not approve of pornographic things to have a discussion about it in another thread as this thread is about finding storage servers.

    80TB of home NAS storage is a lot in 2015 and highly unusual.

    Is it? I feel like this should be normal by now, I know some people with a 200TB home NAS, I feel like they are the unusual ones.

    Stating you have 24TB of porn is likewise a lot in 2015 and highly unusual.

    Well, it was for work, I got to keep a lot of it as a free "bonus" of sorts.

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  • Awmusic12635Awmusic12635 Member, Provider
    edited November 2015

    Setsura said: Is it? I feel like this should be normal by now

    Not even close

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