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    Hurricane Joaquin

    Hurricane Joaquin is looking to cause heavy rainfall and flooding in Georgia, Carolinas and Virginia at a minimum; and if some of the projections are right making landfall over Georgia, South/North Carolina before heading back to the Atlantic.

    Its too early to tell which way its going to go, but its worth taking 5 minutes to check your disaster recovery plans if you are located in that area; and if you have servers there then confirm your DR plan works.

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    • Nick_ANick_A Top Provider

      Thought it was heading north of Georgia up the coast? http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at1+shtml/145823.shtml?5-daynl

      We'll definitely get some rain, but the worst seems to be heading toward the northeast.

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    • Just to add to that - we have DR plans in place for customers in our Atlanta, Charlotte, Falls Church, Manhattan and Newport sites. But irrespective nature can still destroy the best made plans.

      Any issues will be posted to the Network Issues page accessible via the client portal which is hosted in Toronto.

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    • sinsin Member

      @MarkTurner said:
      Hurricane Joaquin is looking to cause heavy rainfall and flooding in Georgia, Carolinas and Virginia at a minimum; and if some of the projections are right making landfall over Georgia, South/North Carolina before heading back to the Atlantic.

      Its too early to tell which way its going to go, but its worth taking 5 minutes to check your disaster recovery plans if you are located in that area; and if you have servers there then confirm your DR plan works.

      I'm in Manassas, Virginia about 25 min from Washington Dc but all the weather sites I've been checking don't seem to show much for my area at least...shows rain with a flash flood warning tomorrow and then chance of rain on sat and sunday.

      It's been raining non-stop here since this morning though! Hope those up North don't get hit to bad.

    • Nick_A said: Thought it was heading north of Georgia up the coast?

      Just came off a conference call with all the site managers on the east coast, Atlanta is preparing for the worst and hoping for the best. Their main concern is the heavy rain.

      Thanked by 1netomx
    • sin said: I'm in Manassas, Virginia about 25 min from Washington Dc

      Terry McAuliffe has already declared a state of emergency in VA, so there are concerns.

      VA, NJ and NC have all declared SoE in advance, that will hopefully make any cleanup a little faster, should it come to that.

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    • FYI Jim Cantore gives good coverage on his Twitter account:

      https://twitter.com/JimCantore/

    • @MarkTurner delimiter datacenter is storm proof? What happens if your datacenter floods and everything is lost?

    • 28Tom28Tom Disabled

      @dacentec any plans mate?

    • @TropiThomas said:
      dacentec any plans mate?

      this is where mother nature decides dacentec vs delimiter...

      Thanked by 1netomx
    • MarkTurnerMarkTurner Member
      edited October 2015

      linuxthefish said: delimiter datacenter is storm proof?

      Depends on the site, some sites are not ground level for example Atlanta is on the 17th floor, Charlotte is ground and first which is a concern considering NC is going to get pounded, Falls Church is 5th floor, Manhattan 3rd floor and New Port 6th floor.

      Charlotte is the big risk but the site is in an elevated position, all the drainage systems were verified this morning, additional pumps are on site just in case. The site manager may decide to add sandbags but we're waiting to hear back.

      The risk with all sites is things like disruption to power, water getting into diesel tanks as many NY datacentres saw during the last major event there which stopped generators running, etc.

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    • 28Tom28Tom Disabled

      @MarkTurner glad to see you have this planned out very well.

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    • TropiThomas said: glad to see you have this planned out very well.

      Don't say that yet, lets say that on Monday if everything works as planned.

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    • WilliamWilliam Member, Provider

      TropiThomas said: @MarkTurner glad to see you have this planned out very well.

      Considering the issues NYC DCs (and surrounding) got the last time (even the high security stock exchange DCs and AT&Ts Wall St. facility went down due to inability to get diesel delivered and break of natural gas delivery system, many others were flooded even on higher floors, many fiber repeaters had either no power or were flooded and/or fiber broke) many (especially the expensive and important ones) are much more prepared now (larger fuel storage, microwave and sat backup links, dual generators and natural gas storage, fiber pumped from DC side and passive all the way). Only DCs i remember that did stay online in NYC were either gov owned or gov used (so primary supplied with diesel by national guard and having access to US gov sat links or guaranteed Intelsat BW).

      In worst case i doubt the "fuel delivery contracts" are worth much at 40cm+ water on ground level.... makes more sense for the delivery company to either pay the contract breach fine or to get sued and try to get it thrown out as "act of god" or settle out of court - i want to see the court that would accept risking the life of someone to deliver fuel to fulfill a contract (heh, what do i say, with US laws they probably DO that, capitalisme).

    • dacentecdacentec Member, Provider

      TropiThomas said: @dacentec any plans mate?

      We are very far west in the foothills of NW North Carolina. Hurricane Hugo brought some high winds to Lenoir but it's uncommon for our area.

      Our emergency plans are always in place and ready to go, we just got done adding our second genset as well as an external fuel storage tank.

      https://www.google.com/maps/place/801+Main+St+NW,+Lenoir,+NC+28645/@35.9223142,-81.542313,132m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x8850dfa0cf8d528b:0x5dd46dcc5c7cb743!6m1!1e1

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    • William said: went down due to inability to get diesel delivered

      Before it got to that stage, many had fed a diesel/water mixture into their generators because their fuel tanks weren't designed to be submerged so water had got into the top of the tank and others didn't plan how to power the fuel pumps to get the diesel up to the roof (seriously).

    • Why are there even still places that experience disasters, yet don't build disaster proof?

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    • Because God bless America, until he changes his mind.

      4n0nx said: Why are there even still places that experience disasters, yet don't build disaster proof?

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    • 4n0nx said: Why are there even still places that experience disasters, yet don't build disaster proof?

      Disaster proofing costs money, insurance is cheaper.

      In some places its not even worth building but people do.

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    • Mahfuz_SS_EHLMahfuz_SS_EHL Member, Provider

      What is the Tier Level of DC of Delimiter & Dacentec uses ?? @MarkTuner & @dacentec

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    • Why are there even still places that experience disasters, yet don't build disaster proof?

      No such thing as disaster proof... Mother nature will win infinity amount of times before man ever wins.

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    • WilliamWilliam Member, Provider

      4n0nx said: Why are there even still places that experience disasters, yet don't build disaster proof?

      It is very expensive to do that - You NEED some sort of air intake to your diesel storage (else you have vacuum and worst case implode the storage) which means either putting it on roof (very expensive to pump up, very heavy so requires reinforcement) or switching to gas (which has it's own pressure) which is not as easy to obtain/transport/store (pressure etc.). Sat links to circumvent broken/non-genset fiber are also not cheap (both by setup and by cost per Mbit).

      Thanked by 24n0nx aglodek
    • @MarkTurner said:
      Hurricane Joaquin is looking to cause heavy rainfall and flooding in Georgia, Carolinas and Virginia at a minimum; and if some of the projections are right making landfall over Georgia, South/North Carolina before heading back to the Atlantic.

      Its too early to tell which way its going to go, but its worth taking 5 minutes to check your disaster recovery plans if you are located in that area; and if you have servers there then confirm your DR plan works.

      Crap I hope all my colo'ed servers survive

    • @MarkTurner said:
      Just to add to that - we have DR plans in place for customers in our Atlanta, Charlotte, Falls Church, Manhattan and Newport sites. But irrespective nature can still destroy the best made plans.

      Any issues will be posted to the Network Issues page accessible via the client portal which is hosted in Toronto.

      At least in Toronto, we never get hurricanes - hence it is one of the safest locations for servers to be in (I'm not saying that it's cheap or anything).

    • gestiondbigestiondbi Member, Provider

      @Quadranet_Adam what about Quadranet DC?

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    • Maximum_VPSMaximum_VPS Member
      edited October 2015

      We are all going to DIE, oh wait we are on the west coast. :>

      Please if you are in the path of this storm, do what needs be done, prepare, flee , hunker down. Are thoughts are with you.

    • Maximum_VPS said: We are all going to DIE, oh wait we are on the west coast. :>

      Death by hurricane or death by earthquake, pick your poison :P

      Thanked by 2Maximum_VPS netomx
    • doghouchdoghouch Member
      edited October 2015

      @black said:
      pick your poisonpoison

      I pick neither :)

    • gestiondbigestiondbi Member, Provider

      @black said:

      Death by Moose fury!

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    • @MarkTurner said:
      Just to add to that - we have DR plans in place for customers in our Atlanta, Charlotte, Falls Church, Manhattan and Newport sites. But irrespective nature can still destroy the best made plans.

      Any issues will be posted to the Network Issues page accessible via the client portal which is hosted in Toronto.

      Oh no, a earthquake will hit us! Oh wait, never mind that -- the only natural disaster in Toronto at this point is literally humanity :)

      Edit: Some lunatic pending for a court hearing suicides using propane tanks + blowtorch. (April 2015)

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    • @MarkTurner said:
      Just to add to that - we have DR plans in place for customers in our Atlanta, Charlotte, Falls Church, Manhattan and Newport sites. But irrespective nature can still destroy the best made plans.

      Any issues will be posted to the Network Issues page accessible via the client portal which is hosted in Toronto.

      I just checked with ReliableSite (NJ) that they had plans and can confirm they do. Thanks for the heads up Mark. Nice to know that they're prepared.

    • Why did people decide to build such huge cities in areas that are so often hit by hurricanes? America is quite large, there are enough areas that never see hurricanes or tornadoes.

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    • I guess distributing one's servers across Miami, New York, Los Angeles, and Seattle is one way to defeat natural disasters. And throw in Dallas for good measure in case of a double-sided tsunami.

    • SilentFarter said: I guess distributing one's servers across Miami, New York, Los Angeles, and Seattle is one way to defeat natural disasters.

      Sure, but then that adds complexity to your architecture that increases the risk of other things fucking up.

      You do what you can to reduce risk but you can't ever entirely eliminate it.

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    • OnraHost said: No such thing as disaster proof... Mother nature will win infinity amount of times before man ever wins.

      There used to be floods where I live, then the gov built a huge dam. My house has its own sewers and is on a hill and as little ground as possible is sealed.

      In addition to that it does not burn and is storm proof :) although it will lose the roof in either cases.

      And on top of that there is insurance.

      All houses around mine are like that,too.

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    • quadhostquadhost Member, Provider

      Hope everyone affected stays safe.

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    • jbilohjbiloh Administrator

      Seems like the storm is going to miss the coast.

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    • @lbft said:
      You do what you can to reduce risk but you can't ever entirely eliminate it.

      Well not really... If you wanted to keep your website online, just point your website to multiple servers around to world to keep it "redundant" in such a natural disaster. The client's browser will look for the fastest online server to respond (in which case the server of which gets washed away by water won't).

    • jbiloh said: Seems like the storm is going to miss the coast.

      Flooding is the big concern right now:

      http://www.weather.com/forecast/national/news/soaking-weather-pattern-east-flooding

    • MarkTurner said: Disaster proofing costs money, insurance is cheaper.

      >

      Insurance companies don't cover "acts of God"

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    • gestiondbigestiondbi Member, Provider

      @hostnoob said:
      Insurance companies don't cover "acts of God"

      On business side, you can pay an extra to get it. Depending on the business and insurance company. Each type of "acts of god" is an extra.

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    • @davidgestiondbi said:
      On business side, you can pay an extra to get it. Depending on the business and insurance company. Each type of "acts of god" is an extra.

      Ah. I hate insurance companies so much. Legalised mafias..

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    • hostnoob said: Insurance companies don't cover "acts of God"

      It depends on your insurance, last time I saw our US insurance it was covering everything including some ridiculous amount of money for terrorism.

      Also some companies self-insure and you can imagine the benefit of that in the hands of a creative accountant.

    • davidgestiondbi said: On business side, you can pay an extra to get it. Depending on the business and insurance company. Each type of "acts of god" is an extra.

      Insurance really only covers acts of stupidity. You left the BBQ grill on and went shopping and your house burned down? That's understandable, you're covered. Tornadoes, hurricanes? Ha ha, good luck with that!

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