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Google Against Censorship

netguynetguy Member
edited December 2012 in General

A new Google action against a censorship on the Internet.

A free and open world depends on a free and open web. And a free and open web depends on me. http://goo.gl/e66R8

Comments

  • Shame you can't see how many people have joined the pledge

  • Bit rich coming from google. They censor search results when it pleases them.

  • @titanicsaled said: Bit rich coming from google. They censor search results when it pleases them.

    I second this. Google is very hypocritical if they believe in this anti-censorship.

    Then again, who else can influence so many people online? I guess Google are best for the job of getting a huge portion of people to join this pledge.

  • Signed. The internet is the most significant invention of mankind since the electric lamp. It would be a huge shame to let the governments/NGOs ruin it for us, the people.

  • is google trolling me

  • When it pleases them? Care to provide examples?

    I'm assuming you're thinking of when results are removed due to DMCA notices or rulings, injunctions etc?

    Or do you mean things like videos being blocked on youtube? Which is due to copyright holders, not google? Or do you mean when google actually removes a video from youtube, but this is due to youtube's rules (family friendly). Upholding the rules of your own website isn't the same as trying to force the entire world to do or act how you want.

  • Blaming Google for censoring their results is like blaming VPS companies for not allowing you to host warez or child porn.

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran

    Google was part of the great firewall censoring the stuff that the communists didnt like.

  • @heiska said: Blaming Google for censoring their results is like blaming VPS companies for not allowing you to host warez or child porn.

    Hopefully, Yahoo will allow us to search for warez and child pron...wait what?

  • I think they're doing this because more and more countries are starting to inquire what information is being stored and require google to be more transparent in what it's doing with this information.

    My thinking it's googles way to bully the world so they don't have to share anything with anyone.

  • @GIANT_CRAB said: Hopefully, Yahoo will allow us to search for warez and child pron...wait what?

    image

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran

    @alex said: I think they're doing this because more and more countries are starting to inquire what information is being stored and require google to be more transparent in what it's doing with this information.

    I think they also want to get rid of those obligations to keep data in accessible forms for the government spy agencies, that rises the costs for them since they need it stored and indexed differently most of the time.
    If the americans want it in mysql or excel to make up for the braindead average surveillance officer, the chinese might want it in mongodb, or plaintext, who knows, I am sure this costs google a lot.

  • mojedamojeda Member
    edited December 2012

    According to CDT.org the ITU has approved of a DPI, Deep Packet Investigation, standard and could impose on everyone's privacy.

    https://www.cdt.org/blogs/cdt/2811adoption-traffic-sniffing-standard-fans-wcit-flames

  • bamnbamn Member
    edited December 2012

    Google against censorship is like Apple supporting worker's rights and fair wages
    (now that I've rolled the grenade in the room, excuse me while I go to lunch for 2 hours)

  • If governments sensor the internet how is google going to make revenue?

  • @Maounique said: Google was part of the great firewall censoring the stuff that the communists didnt like.

    WHAT!!?

    Google said it would not provide its search engine over there because they wanted google to censor the results on their behalf. L2R?

  • Arstechnica said: Some nations also hope to earn more revenue by instituting a "sender-pays" regime that would force online service providers, many of them based in the United States, to pay more to deliver their content to the world's consumers.

    Think Youtube.

  • @bamn said: Google against censorship is like Apple supporting worker's rights and fair wages

    (now that I've rolled the grenade in the room, excuse me while I go to lunch for 2 hours)

    Apple sucks at a lot of things, but don't bash them for using Foxconn unless you also bash Acer, ASRock, Asus, Cisco, Dell, HP, Intel, IBM, Lenovo, Logitech, Microsoft, MSI, Motorola, Nintendo, Nokia, Panasonic, Philips, Samsung, Sharp, Sony Ericsson, Toshiba, and Vizio. As well as a few others. And most likely Google themselves.

  • TheHackBoxTheHackBox Member
    edited December 2012

    > Google is against censorship
    > Censors search results due to DMCA or Chinese governement

  • Google is an American company
    Follows American laws
    Google sends servers to China
    Follows Chinese laws

  • KairusKairus Member
    edited December 2012

    @Maounique said: Google was part of the great firewall censoring the stuff that the communists didnt like.

    They followed the laws of the country they were in. They've since moved out of China and google.hk has always been uncensored.

  • @StormVZ said: Shame you can't see how many people have joined the pledge

    !(http://puu.sh/1xyas)

  • XeoncrossXeoncross Member
    edited December 2012

    @titanicsaled said: Bit rich coming from google. They censor search results when it pleases them.

    @TheHackBox said: > Google is against censorship
    Censors search results due to DMCA or Chinese governement

    So Google has a masterfully planed public image and many people inside the company that actually fight for that image. Yet, Google is in the position of being forced to take down content - or have their bottom line threatened. This censorship threatens their public image.

    Solution

    Comply with requests but run public campaigns against SOPA, ITU, and other things to fix any scuffs/dings that public image may have gotten.

    Everyone wins... enough.

  • Oh great, here come those "anonymous" people who will "help the internet be free".

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran

    Actually, even with DPI, you can still run VPNs and encrypted traffic, so what is the problem ? When encryption will be outlawed, then we will have a (more serious) problem.
    But i think it wont happen unless the banks have less money than the dictators or RIAA (i.e., never).
    It is time to close down plain text internet and run all links through tunnels, as internet speed grows and BW becomes cheaper, there will be tunnel brokers you can chain up and encrypt your traffic too, so nobody will actually be able to tell what is going through there or from where it comes or it goes.
    At the last resort, ITU will see layer 8, 9 and 10 grow over the internet.
    Mesh networking of P2P cant be stopped, really.

  • @Maounique said: you can still run VPNs and encrypted traffic

    VPN to where? If all countries do this stupid internet monitoring thing, your VPN is useless since the traffic will be monitored at the VPN's exit too. Ok, not your government, but still a government monitoring it.

  • ChrisKChrisK Member
    edited December 2012

    @Zen
    Please don't involve me in such stupidity.

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