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    ArkasArkas Member

    Hi everyone!
    I found this site while looking for coupons for a VPS on Google.
    I have a forum that has been hosted at a friend's dedicated server for about a year.
    I now need to move it as he can no longer host my site there as he is changing dedicated servers through his company and he can't host my site.
    is a VPS with 1 vcore and 1GB of RAM enough to host a forum with about 5k-7k unique visitors per day and about 100 concurrent registered members?
    Can I also host 2-3 other wordpress sites in such a setup?
    TIA!

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    • It depends whether its a shared or dedicated core; and what the core is. 1 core of Core2Duo isn't much use.

    • WHTWHT Member

      From experience: 2GB Ram for vBulletin are not enugh!

    • ratherbak3dratherbak3d Member, Provider

      1 Core to 1GB is a strange ratio. More cores are usually provided with more RAM. If that 1 core is shared then we really need to know what CPU is running.

      IT & Hosting Solutions Rotherham - Virtual6 Ltd

    • I have no idea... What do they mean when they say 1 core or vcore?
      Does that mean that If a server has 4 cores, I get 1, right?

    • Which forum software as well?

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    • Thanks for the help! How do I know what CPU the VPS is runing on?

    • its running on smf forum software

    • Arkas said: How do I know what CPU the VPS is runing on?

      Run the following in SSH

      cat /proc/cpuinfo

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    • ok, i'll do that, thanks!

    • I have an IP.Board forum with about 2k uniques per day, running on a 512+256 box with an E5 core.

      I do notice slowdowns sometimes after moving from a box with access to 24 cores, but IP.Board is quite a heavy/bloated forum and it uses plugins like a shoutbox open to everyone, so I guess you could squeeze it onto a 1core/1GB (if it's a decent core) box if it's just basic SMF and Wordpress installations.

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    • Does this help?

      processor : 0
      vendor_id : GenuineIntel
      cpu family : 6
      model : 13
      model name : QEMU Virtual CPU version (cpu64-rhel6)
      stepping : 3
      cpu MHz : 3300.022
      cache size : 4096 KB
      fpu : yes
      fpu_exception : yes
      cpuid level : 4
      wp : yes
      flags : fpu de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pse3 6 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx lm unfair_spinlock pni cx16 hypervisor la hf_lm
      bogomips : 6600.04
      clflush size : 64
      cache_alignment : 64
      address sizes : 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
      power management:

      processor : 1
      vendor_id : GenuineIntel
      cpu family : 6
      model : 13
      model name : QEMU Virtual CPU version (cpu64-rhel6)
      stepping : 3
      cpu MHz : 3300.022
      cache size : 4096 KB
      fpu : yes
      fpu_exception : yes
      cpuid level : 4
      wp : yes
      flags : fpu de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pse3 6 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx lm unfair_spinlock pni cx16 hypervisor la hf_lm
      bogomips : 6600.04
      clflush size : 64
      cache_alignment : 64
      address sizes : 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
      power management:

      processor : 2
      vendor_id : GenuineIntel
      cpu family : 6
      model : 13
      model name : QEMU Virtual CPU version (cpu64-rhel6)
      stepping : 3
      cpu MHz : 3300.022
      cache size : 4096 KB
      fpu : yes
      fpu_exception : yes
      cpuid level : 4
      wp : yes
      flags : fpu de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pse3 6 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx lm unfair_spinlock pni cx16 hypervisor la hf_lm
      bogomips : 6600.04
      clflush size : 64
      cache_alignment : 64
      address sizes : 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
      power management:

      processor : 3
      vendor_id : GenuineIntel
      cpu family : 6
      model : 13
      model name : QEMU Virtual CPU version (cpu64-rhel6)
      stepping : 3
      cpu MHz : 3300.022
      cache size : 4096 KB
      fpu : yes
      fpu_exception : yes
      cpuid level : 4
      wp : yes
      flags : fpu de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pse3 6 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx lm unfair_spinlock pni cx16 hypervisor la hf_lm
      bogomips : 6600.04
      clflush size : 64
      cache_alignment : 64

    • Each one of those is a core, so you would have access to 4 3.3 GHz cores. Should be adequate.

    • Likely a E3-1240 should be fine

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    • Thanks! I feel better now!

    • Yeah you have access to 4 cores there

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    • How can I have access to 4 cores when it says 1vcore?
      Do I have any core that is allocated only to me?
      I know I must sound stupid...I design websites, not much of a techie.

    • Arkas said: How can I have access to 4 cores when it says 1vcore? Do I have any core that is allocated only to me? I know I must sound stupid...I design websites, not much of a techie.

      Overselling / Hyper-Threading

      (HT is basically a form of software "virtual" Core, but nothing like a real core)

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    • Well that's not good :(
      I thought it meant I have access to 1 core.
      Heck, I can get a dedi for under $60...

    • ratherbak3dratherbak3d Member, Provider
      edited August 2015

      TarZZ92 said: Overselling / Hyper-Threading

      (HT is basically a form of software "virtual" Core, but nothing like a real core)

      Not really. What the OP has there is four cores (KVM). On a processor with hyperthreading, 8 cores are shown and 8 can theoretically be added to a KVM guest, but four of them are virtual (Hyperthreaded).

      What I'm getting at is that from inside the VPS, you can't distinguish what is real or virtual (Hyperthreaded) and I don't know how overselling would come into it.

      Your provider is giving you four KVM virtual cores, they clearly wrongly advertised it as one or set it up wrong. Either way you have access to four so you win :)

      I doubt any of them are "Dedicated" to you, though. They're probably shared.

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      IT & Hosting Solutions Rotherham - Virtual6 Ltd

    • Unless the provider specifically states that the cores are dedicated then they will just be shared across all the users on the server. Your processes are fighting to CPU time like everyone else.

      Thats why I mentioned at the start were they shared or dedicated cores. We sell a dedicated core VPS product which is aimed at people who want to max out their core 24x7 without interfering with others on the same system.

    • Arkas said: Heck, I can get a dedi for under $̶6̶̶0̶ $10...

      Corrected that for you

      Software is like sex, it's better when it's free!

    • a dedicated server for $10...... Seriously?

    • ratherbak3d said: Not really. What the OP has there is four cores (KVM).

      they can still be oversold. they are not "dedicated" as such.

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    • ratherbak3dratherbak3d Member, Provider
      edited August 2015

      TarZZ92 said: they can still be oversold. they are not "dedicated" as such.

      I know that, but I read it as this.

      Why do I see four cores? > Overselling / Hyper-Threading. When actually neither of those answer his question.

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    • @Arkas said:
      a dedicated server for $10...... Seriously?

      Yes, some of the cheapest and fine dedicated providers are Kimsufi, DelimiterVPS, Dacentec and ServDiscount. But for 10$ you won't get a cpu which is able to serve all these visitors / users quickly so it'll be better going with a VPS first of all. Further you should be (more) experienced when having a dedicated in terms of Linux, server management and properly security.

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    • ArkasArkas Member
      edited August 2015

      Thanks. I prefer your honest opinion. You are correct.

    • ratherbak3d said: Why do I see four cores? > Overselling / Hyper-Threading. When actually neither of those answer his question.

      They do but rather indirectly.

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    • nexusrainnexusrain Member
      edited August 2015

      @Arkas said:
      Thanks. I prefer your honest opinion. You are correct.

      If you meant me: you're welcome, and.. Just FYI: with every post comes a Thanks link you can click. :)

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    • Frecyboy said: Arkas said: Heck, I can get a dedi for under $̶6̶̶0̶ $10 $5...

      Corrected Again

    • NekkiNekki Moderator

      @nexusrain said:
      If you meant me: you're welcome, and.. Just FYI: with every post comes a Thanks link you can click. :)

      Angling for thanks is never a good look.

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    • @Nekki said:
      Angling for thanks is never a good look.

      I didn't say "press the thanks button at my post only" I just wanted to inform him as he's new and maybe didn't use Vanilla yet how to thank someone quickly.

      ¦ x64Dash ¦

    • NekkiNekki Moderator

      @nexusrain said:
      I didn't say "press the thanks button at my post only" I just wanted to inform him as he's new and maybe didn't use Vanilla yet how to thank someone quickly.

      I'm yanking your crank.

    • nexusrainnexusrain Member
      edited September 2015

      @Nekki said:
      I'm yanking your crank.

      I can live with that.

      Edit: If I've got the dictionary right as I needed one for these words.

      ¦ x64Dash ¦

    • Thanks everyone!
      I managed to install the centos web panel, which is very very slow with 1GB.
      SMF seems to be working ok, but again very slow...
      Perhaps I need a better VPS

    • Centos with centos web panel, is heavy on resources. If you like Centos as OS, maybe you should try something froxlor or vestacp as panel or, even better, if you have a bit knowledge of linux, virtualmin.

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      • If such a program has not crashed yet, it is waiting for a critical moment before it crashes.

    • Thanks, I'll try virtualmin!

    • ZweiTigerZweiTiger Member, Provider

      @Arkas said:
      Thanks, I'll try virtualmin!

      Interworx is free for one website!

    • Don't run a Control Panel, just set up the software manually. Lighttpd/PHP/MySQL, the configuration should be just fine.

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    • ProfforgProfforg Member
      edited September 2015

      If you'll use control panel, it's hard to affect software configuration manually if it's not done via control panel's native features (really native, not file editing). Better not to use any control panels. Also centos better to replace with Debian.

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    • IkoulaIkoula Provider
      edited September 2015

      You could also take a vps offer that can be upgraded, so you will be able to upgrade ressources if needed.

      Thomas - Technical Support - ikoula.com

      hyperv vps /-/ xen cloud vm /-/ dedicated servers

    • Ikoula said: You could also take a vps offer that can be upgraded, so you will be able to upgrade if needed.

      any can do that, some even call them "cloud" (which is simply a marketing term)

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    • As @MarkTurner said, vCore means very little because it's shared. Do a few benchmarks at different times of the day if you want some reassurance.

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    • jvnadrjvnadr Member
      edited September 2015

      It depends of what kind of core it is (vcore is meaning nothing): the real question is how much cpu power are you having access, if the node aka the cpu is overcrowded, and what i/o wait you will face to that node, again depending on how overcrowded is.
      A well configured forum with 5k-7k unique visitors per day and/or 100 concurrent users on line (that is ~10 concurrent requests per second) is not a heavy duty for a server.
      If your VPS company is good enough and you don't sign up with a hoster that advertises "1GB memory 1 Core 100GB disk 1 ipv4 with 10$ per year" (signing up with a good company like Ramnode, InceptionHosting, DRServer, Prometeus etc.) would do fine. A GVH-like chippie company could lead to continuous crashes of the server, even iv you have access to 4 vcpu cores and 3GB memory...
      P.S. I host in @AnthonySmith 's Inception Hosting, a joomla 2.5 heavy site with 7-8K unique visitors per day, lot of php/html5/flash and pictures, that is going excellent on a 2GB RAM machine and 2vcpu cores. The load is always lower than 0.15-0.25 and the RAm is not exceeding 350-400MB, with Apache-MySQL-Php on it. Same site is working (tested) in a 1GB mem and 1 cpu vps, even if it was a little streched in the nightly backup/rsync/transfer jobs

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      • If a program actually fits in memory and has enough disk space, it is guaranteed to crash.
      • If such a program has not crashed yet, it is waiting for a critical moment before it crashes.

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