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HOW TO BE A PROPER HOSTING PROVIDER
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HOW TO BE A PROPER HOSTING PROVIDER

enitan092enitan092 Member
edited November 2012 in Help

I have been using a reseller hosting account to provide for my clients and sell to some people...
so how to i become a proper hosting provider wher i dont have to buy a reseller package from another hosting provider who buys form a datacenter.

i though about vps.
i dont know the procedure and do not want to waste a lot of money on it

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  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran

    You need to buy a VPS and cPanel or another one (but ppl love cPanel)
    There are some providers which offer VPS with cPanel or it can be an add-on at half the price from licensepal or something (saw as low as 7.5)
    Then you need some billing software, whmcs can work.
    License costs alone will make some 20 $ and the VPS will need to be big to handle the load of many customers that will need to be hosted to pay for the licenses.
    I suggest hosting whmcs some other place which offers DDoS protection, depending on your customers, main VPS might need it also.
    The right way to do it is very expensive.

  • thank you....

  • If you're asking this question, don't bother.

  • but what i find is hosting reseller account are cheaper than vps
    WHY

  • @enitan092 said: but what i find is hosting reseller account are cheaper than vps

    WHY

    Resellers get discounts from retail prices so they can make profit? Otherwise how can resellers survive?

  • okey....

    i guess i will stick to resellers hosting until i have like $#### to kick off sumtin cool

  • concerto49concerto49 Member
    edited November 2012

    @enitan092 said: i guess i will stick to resellers hosting until i have like $#### to kick off sumtin cool

    Sounds like a good idea! Money and knowledge!

    Oh we're looking for resellers :)

  • pm me d details

  • Turnkey root ultimate reseller is good for u while still with 75% discount.

    I ordered too early, otherwise I will get the root ultimate 2. They allow only one discount per client.

    VPS 8G ram 100G hard disk
    Cpanel. Many ips. Less than 60 per month.

  • http://www.knownhost.com/vps_packages.html
    the vs2 package with control panel (+$5 per month) is exactly like the reseller a/c you currently have.

  • Finish school. You're too young to be operating a hosting provider.

  • @smile93 what does that root ultimate 2 plan actually buy platform wise? Is it effectively an 8GB Xen VPS that you slice up for reselling/own use...so is it nested VMs or? Confused...

  • Sorry, please go away.

  • @gubbyte : do you have a problem with being young....

  • kbeeziekbeezie Member
    edited November 2012

    @Maounique said: You need to buy a VPS and cPanel or another one (but ppl love cPanel)

    Personally, if he wants to be a "provider", I would first suggest a VPS without any kind of control panel at all. If he can't handle setting up his own stuff on that then shouldn't just skip to providing paying customers on a VPS that can't be managed outside of the control panel presented.

    IF you're just hosting your own stuff then by all means go for it, since normally you'd have to pay someone else to manage it when needed or the provider already provides management, but if you're the provider... ouch if you don't know how to do without cpanel.

  • kbeeziekbeezie Member
    edited November 2012

    @enitan092 said: but what i find is hosting reseller account are cheaper than vps

    WHY

    Reseller accounts are just shared hosting accounts with control over ... gasp more shared customers. (unless you're a VPS reseller then well, my post above would apply)

    The resources are shared as such it doesn't cost the provider much as opposed to dedicating some resources to the customer, as such they can't service as many people when there's not enough resources to go around.

  • @serverbear said: If you're asking this question, don't bother.

    @serverbear - You're bursting his bubble :P - so depressing

    @enitan092 - Here is everything you need to know about how to start your own hosting company with just $200: http://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/4473/how-to-become-the-ceo-of-your-very-own-vps-hosting-company-in-ten-easy-steps-and-for-under-200

  • kbeeziekbeezie Member
    edited November 2012

    @marcm and what happened to ZenSix? He doesn't even do VPSes any more, I'd know since IonVz is a creation of his and mine, which he created in hopes that he'd be able to sell VPSes without people constantly asking "when will you have more stock of cheap VPSes", but course what happened was people kept messaging him asking "When you going to have any stock over at ZenSix", since pricing was 10/month vs 35/month between ZenSix and IonVz.

    Near the end he ended up getting about 30-40 support tickets every couple of days on the ZenSix side, on the IonVz side which I bought outright from him was getting maybe 1 support ticket a month, the difference was he was overselling like crazy on his end , so of course you're going to get a flux of people complaining about this or that (also most of his customers at the time were acquired from wickedfire.com an affiliate marketing forum, and a lot of the cheap affiliates marketers and SEO Specialists like to abuse resources like mad, mostly in setting up 40-50 wordpress sites without caching, or trying to run squid or whatever else).

    So yea... you can start up for less than $200, but if you don't know how to manage it and lack troubleshooting or customer care skills or get too greedy on overselling, you're just going to end up getting rid of all your servers and go back to being a yearly shared hosting provider.

  • @marcm : thanks alot for the help
    @kbeezie : yep i already hav a reseller account so d plan is to have a reasonable number of users and personal projects running before i buy a vps to migrate all of it there and become a proper hosting provider.
    so thanks alot

    @gubbyte : if you think am 2 young 2 own one ,do i need 2 be in my forty's to own a hosting company and say YES AM OLD ENUF now.
    @bijan588 : we all start from somewhere.

  • @enitan092 said: we all start from somewhere.

    This somewhere is not asking for a tutorial on the internet. How old are you?

  • @enitan092 said: @gubbyte : if you think am 2 young 2 own one ,do i need 2 be in my forty's to own a hosting company and say YES AM OLD ENUF now.

    Sure.

  • @bijan588 said: @enitan092 said: we all start from somewhere.

    This somewhere is not asking for a tutorial on the internet. How old are you?

    I like pie...

    image

  • @marcm : i like pie hmmmm
    @ all : is 22 years tooooo young

  • joepie91joepie91 Member, Patron Provider
    edited November 2012

    @enitan092 said: @ all : is 22 years tooooo young

    @enitan092 said: @gubbyte : if you think am 2 young 2 own one ,do i need 2 be in my forty's to own a hosting company and say YES AM OLD ENUF now.

    I suggest you learn to write and spell properly, before trying to set up a hosting company, regardless of age. Additionally, if this is the way you write at the age of 22, you have bigger problems than just not knowing how to run a hosting company.

  • @joepie91 said: I suggest you learn to write and spell properly, before trying to set up a hosting company, regardless of age. Additionally, if this is the way you write at the age of 22, you have bigger problems than just not knowing how to run a hosting company.

    Where is the like button when you need it? :(

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran

    @kbeezie said: Personally, if he wants to be a "provider", I would first suggest a VPS without any kind of control panel at all.

    Actually, that was not for him, but for his customers. They would like to do things like changing passwords, creating mail accounts mysql databases themselves, nobody likes to open a ticket for every little thing, even if resolution is lightning fast.

  • kbeeziekbeezie Member
    edited November 2012

    @Maounique said: @kbeezie said: Personally, if he wants to be a "provider", I would first suggest a VPS without any kind of control panel at all.

    Actually, that was not for him, but for his customers. They would like to do things like changing passwords, creating mail accounts mysql databases themselves, nobody likes to open a ticket for every little thing, even if resolution is lightning fast.

    He's asknig to be a provider, you said to install a VPS with cpanel, seems like with the chain of events you were speaking of for him not for his customer. My point still stands, even if customers are going to be using a control panel themselves, you as a provider still needs to know how to trouble shoot it even if cpanel/whm decides to take a crap or what needs doing cannot be done with cpanel.

    In short if you read what I said, you need to learn how to manage a VPS without the bells and whistles before you can think of putting customers onto it.

  • @joepie91 : hmmmm.....really , am used to short typing stuffs...

  • @kbeezie : you are the only one that made sense...
    i already own a cpanel hosting reseller used for personal projects and friends.
    so now am trying to expand .
    and the idea was for some one to type how to go about it than practically downing me ..

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