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List of Offshore Hosting and Server Providers

List of Offshore Hosting and Server Providers

http://comptutor.me/2015/04/03/bulletproof-offshore-hosting-and-servers/

Is there any other providers that you would like to see added to the list?

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  • You don't even provide click able links?!

    Software is like sex, it's better when it's free!

  • I'll go back and make them clickable. I've been compiling this list for a while and was more focused on finding more companies than making friendly clickable links. But I agree with you its kind of lazy of me and I would be annoyed if I was a visitor. Sorry.

  • nexusrainnexusrain Member
    edited August 2015

    Just two examples, but how are hostsailor or edis "offshore"? Instead what about adding blazingfast.io (UA and NL) and en.hostsolutions.ro (RO, obviously) by @cociu?

  • edited August 2015

    HostSailor is a Dubai company that has servers in Romania and Netherlands which a lot of people still consider to be offshore. I wouldn't consider Netherlands offshore anymore, but thats just me. I will add your two suggestions. Thanks for input!

  • WilliamWilliam Member, Provider
    edited August 2015

    Again one of this shitty lists by someone with no idea..

    http://www.caratnetworks.com

    Not BP, operates closely with canadian laws which are not sure yet if torrent trackers are really illegal - Kicks all other warez sites (DDL etc.)

    http://www.netelligent.ca

    Not BP, operates closely with canadian laws which are not sure yet if torrent trackers are really illegal - Kicks all other warez sites (DDL etc.)

    http://www.neutraldata.com

    Not BP, normal host.

    http://www.amanah.com

    Normal CA host, not BP.

    https://www.orangewebsite.com *

    Not BP, using Thor DC (if still, like a few months ago they had a single /24 on Thor)

    https://www.1984hosting.com

    Not BP, not accepting any Spam and similar, kicks warez sites after some abuse (good for VPN/free speech, might goes to court for customer)

    https://www.flokinet.is *

    Not accepting Spam either, kicking warez sites, not BP.

    https://ecodissident.net

    likely German owned (half assed anonymous operation), not BP.

    http://www.advania.com

    lol really, again, ThorDC/Advania is not BP in any sense.

    https://www.greenqloud.com

    Not BP, kicks any activity illegal in EU.

    http://www.hub.org

    not BP, kicks on first abuse.

    http://www.ccihosting.com *

    not BP, kicks at first abuse.

    https://www.panamaserver.com *

    Not BP, kicks any spam and warez activity.

    http://www.highsecured.com

    Not BP, kicks any spam and warez activity.

    http://www.offshoreracks.com *

    Not BP, kicks all spam and warez activity.

    http://www.2X4.ru

    Largest Wahome customer bakc in the German carding days - Not BP anymore (ex RBN) - DIsmantled RU operations, now mainly selling servers based in NL. Probably got busted after enough inquiries forced RU gov to cooperate with Germany.

    http://www.hostkey.com *

    Not BP, kicks any spam and warez site after some abuse. Owner/Staff active on LET under alias @tgk76

    https://selectel.com

    Not BP, kicks any spam and warez site. More or less legit russian host - hosted some Russian warez before.

    http://www.parkinhost.com

    Not even requires any comment... small scale "VPS" provider

    http://privatelayer.com *

    No, really? No, not useable for anything BP requiring, hosts some warez in CH but is in constant legal fight with authorities and on the verge of getting depeered by Cogent

    https://incloudibly.net *

    God, never.

    http://en.datasource.ch

    Nope.

    https://www.nine.ch

    Nine kicks anything illegal by Swiss and EU law, faster than you can count to 3.

    https://www.hosthink.net

    Not BP, never was.

    http://www.server.ua

    Legit sites only.

    http://www.colocall.net

    nope, no more warez on colocall, ex Demonoid host. Nice DC tho.

    http://hosting.ua

    God no, and their DC burned down not once but TWO times (Funny pics on WHT, just search for hosting.ua). Cheap.

    https://goodnet.com.ua

    Nope, no warez allowed - Based in "Peoples Republic of Donezk" or some other Russian supported split-away government (basically whoever controls the shelled out ruins of Kharkov this week, sometimes even the Kiev gov) - Currently more occupied in keeping fibers and power up than enforcing abuse

    http://www.besthosting.ua

    Nope either, no warez allowed.

    https://www.ukrnames.com

    Nope, no warez allowed. Mainly legit host.

    http://deltahost.com

    Bought out long time ago, no warez allowed.

    https://www.voxility.com

    Closing down any servers used for P2P and warez after certain size, nope.

    http://www.xservers.ro

    Legit host, does not allow anything banned by any EU country. Recently raided IIRC (was in Romanian news, @Maounique can probably tell more)

    http://www.sadecehosting.com

    Legit only, follows EU laws strictly despite not being in EU

    https://www.hosteasy.eu

    Aka Trabia networks, owner lives/lived in Germany and mostly follows German laws - Moldovan laws are not very clear currently especially in Transnistria, but their DC/Office is based in the Republic. Has/had backhaul linkt o DECIX/Frankfurt, now Voxility transit customer in NXDATA Bicharest so applies their policies as well (by force).

    http://www.ecatel.info *

    Youre joking right? Ecatel now follows NL laws, even though their abuse dept sucks ass - Now mainly used for untraceable booters as they allow spoofed UDP. On constant verge of getting depeered (happens all the time, then they just switch to the next either unknowing or unwilling to enforce prefix lists/spoofing filters ISP)

    http://www.cyberbunker.com *

    Dead, if not dead now then dead shortly - Owner in Spanish or Dutch jail (Sven) - aka Stophaus aka causing one of the largest reflection attacks ever - Had XTC (MDMA, Molly, Ecstasy, whatever) lab in bunker (busted) and a shit load of weed plants (probably more than dutch law allows/ignores), doubt that counts much as reliable.

    https://www.altushost.com

    Quite funny history, will kick on pretty much any abuse, tries hard to become legit, advertises/d on LET/LEB

    http://cinipac.com/en *

    Yea... funky history on that one as well, mainly a reseller of some shady hosts i would not trust my data with - Probably run from some basement in Germany

    http://www.prq.se/?p=services&intl=1 *

    Following stricly Swedish law, any Piratebay or similar P2P activity gets you banned (likely under gag order to pay high fines on non compliance)

    http://www.portlane.com/en

    portlane stricly follows all EU laws after being forced to do so by an SE court (for hosting TPB)

    http://www.glesys.com

    See Portlane, ultimately their network.

    http://swedendedicated.com *

    See Portlane, ultimately their network.

    https://www.bahnhof.net

    Not allowing any warez/spam, good for VPN though. Probably would fight in court for customer.

    http://www.sologigabit.com

    Follows EU laws strictly after being busted (or sued) a few times - Shady DC in Valencia (few racks?) with pretty crappy Cogent connectivity in Madrid (which is like on the other side of the country 2000km+ away). Now seems to be multihomed with a Spanish ISP known to harshly enforce DMCA and alike. Had NL operations before and then ran from it. Offers targeted to FTP scene (large storage, high port speed, middle volume traffic) - Was once popular there but BW quality lost them a lot of traders (as speed to Leaseweb, OVH and the Swedish ISPs sucks on peak times).

    http://www.exmasters.com

    Only allows legal porn, no spam, no warez (anymore). Was once a tiny bit popular for German warez.

    https://www.server.lu

    God no, once they know you do something illegal in LU (and this list is long by now) they kick you overnight.

    https://beneluxservers.com

    Server.lu reseller? Something like that.

    http://shinjiru.com *

    Forced to accept MY and US laws, very strict on warez now. Pretty reliable for a MY based company.

    http://2sync.co *

    Small scale reseller.

    http://www.katzglobal.com *

    Expensive "Reseller" of some very old hosts in Asia which are sort of lenient on abuse, anonymous, good for free speech - Which is somewhat surprising considering MY laws.

    http://tele-asia.net/eng/

    Nope, kicks any spam/warez activity. Owner or some support staff is active on LET under alias @randvegeta - Now has EU operations in Lithuania which could be easily used against them.

    http://www.sunnyvision.com

    Nope, kicks any spam/warez activity. Warez-BB upstream provider. Not reliable at all. Extorting customers with "fake" (or extremely exagerated) DDoS attacks.

    http://www.hktechnology.com *

    While known before as less-than-legal host they are forced to accept US and HK law now, spammer heaven before.

    http://www.sinohosting.net

    Does not accept anything illegal in China, a very long list, did so before though - Always required ICP for websites. Would not fight in Chinese court for customer (but eh, who would do that, Chinese legal system is not really independent)

    http://ptclcloud.com.pk

    No illegal activity allowed, no uninslamic content allowed, enforcement might be lax in their area of Pakistan (do they even have government there?) but ultimately relies on connectivity from ISPs based in Islamabad/Lahore which is under gov control.

    http://www.pndc.ir/index.htm

    Any unislamic content causes server cancellation. Warez will get you banned if it does not follow Iranian laws strictly (which is pretty much whatever the gov deems either unislamic or "dangerous to the public"). Relies, as any ISP in Iran, on upstream connectivity by the 2 state telcos which are trigger happy on nullroutes.

    http://ouriran.com/dedicated_iran.cfm

    Any unislamic content causes server cancellation. Warez will get you banned if it does not follow Iranian laws strictly (which is pretty much whatever the gov deems either unislamic or "dangerous to the public"). Relies, as any ISP in Iran, on upstream connectivity by the 2 state telcos which are trigger happy on nullroutes.

    https://www.r0ute.com *

    Any unislamic content causes server cancellation, not really able to influence hosts politics - Using non-SWIPed IP space from some Tehran DC, see other Iranian hosts in this list.

    http://www.securehost.com

    Follows US and Bahamas laws. Expensive. Had servers there at one point.

    http://www.warez-host.com *

    God no, does nothing like the name implies.

    http://wrzhost.com

    Again, god no.

    http://www.crservers.com *

    Follows US and CR laws, doubtful they accept any warez.

    https://www.vpsbg.eu/en/ *

    Follows EU laws, reseller?

    http://libertyvps.net *

    Reseller.

    https://hostsailor.com *

    Has to follow EU laws despite being based in .AE - Servers in NL and RO on their own IP space.

    http://www.starrydns.net *

    Nope, reseller of many Chinese hosts - Has some dedis in Korea for VPS but will kick you for warez.

    https://vinahost.vn/index.php?language=English

    Not accepting any content illegal in Vietnam and the US. Mainly a legit host but is used for some local VN warez - VN laws are likely not much enforced and accepting of foreign warez by only providing copyright for VN companies.

    http://www.finalhosting.cz

    Not accepting any content illegal in any EU country.

    http://www.continent8.com

    Expensive as fuck (like, insanely), mainly used for gambling but still requires IoM gambling license (which means they are mainly legit, as per IoM law)

    http://www.curacaowebhosting.com

    Follow US laws, expensive as fuck, singlehomed to US carrier.

  • In my opinion, "offshore" means the provider doesn't care at some points and the server isn't easily taken down. But just because HostSailor is Dubai based that doesn't mean they're not strict. E.g. VPSDime by @serverian is Turkey based but they're pretty strict about usage. Or some others are Germany based and allow tor exit nodes or smth even more potentially "dangerous" for the provider.

    Location does matter at some point, e.g. if a provider isn't cooperative when an abuse report comes in, after some time the police (or smth like that) will run into the DC like in the tpb story. But if the DC is somewhere where even the police doesn't care much, e.g. Russia or Asia, that's good.

    Conclusion: it's a thing of the definition what's offshore and what not. :p

  • edited August 2015

    William, what hosts are you suggesting then? I am open to learning more from you.

  • WilliamWilliam Member, Provider
    edited August 2015

    None, there is no one anymore that accepts Spam and the ones still accepting warez are not public (Akrino/Ex-RBN and alike) or run their own hosters which are, again, not public (like yts.to)

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  • edited August 2015

    William, You know as well as I there are plenty of warez sites online. There is still plenty of SPAM, Botnets, etc also. Some of the largest piracy related sites are hosted at some of the bigger non-reseller companies mentioned above. How are they getting away with it? Or is it just a matter of time until they are busted and they have just been lucky thus far? I know some hide behind reverse proxies and some behind cloudflare. I guess my point is that some hosts have to be considered to be more "lenient" than others. I guess there is no 100% guarantee bulletproof hosts, which I agree with, but some are better than others at hosting certain risky content. I consider bulletproof and offshore to be one of those industry catch phrases. like unlimited, unmetered, cloud, etc.

    For instance, you said SunnyVision kicks for warez activity. Which I'm sure they do and I'm sure is outlawed in their TOS. However if you look up a prominent warez forum, they are hosted there. http://whois.domaintools.com/warez-bb.org http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/warez-bb.org

    I know people hate alexa ranks, but top 5000 in world means you are getting some decent traffic and should be noticed by host. Especially if you are blatantly obvious about it. I mean they have warez in the name.

    Also, https://demonii.com and http://coppersurfer.tk are currently the most used public torrent trackers out there. See the exact stats here: https://demonii.com/stats/ 30 million or so peers. They are hosted at https://www.worldstream.nl and https://www.plusserver.com and Netherlands and German host. To me they couldn't be anymore blatantly obvious with what they were doing. To be anymore public and open that they are doing illegal things they'd have to buy a superbowl commercial spot.

    My point is that nothing is 100% bulletproof, but some hosts are more "offshore" or "lenient" than others.

  • ClouviderClouvider Member, Provider

    "Offshore" can you be more specific? Off which shore precisely?

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  • To me, Offshore means doesn't follow US/UK Law. Some people can also attribute it to ignoring DMCA or Spam. Seems like everyone has varying definitions of what exactly it means though. Would love to hear what other people think of when they hear offshore hosting.

  • @theblackesthat said: http://comptutor.me/2015/04/03/bulletproof-offshore-hosting-and-servers/

    Is there any other providers that you would like to see added to the list?

    Slow the fuck down, since when the hell is Canada offshore, or even remotely bulletproof? C-51 kills any/all chance at free speech. Fucking secret police.

    None of those hosts are even remotely bulletproof or offshore. Most are owned by businesses based in US/UK/CA or generalized EU, which in and of itself should of tipped you off, IT'S NOT BULLETPROOF.

    You want a good provider that takes a metric fuckton of shit?

    vinahost.vn

    Former host of darkode, current host of mazafaka(mfclub.ws:666 / mazafaka.cc:666).

    Then 0day host : https://vdsinside.com/

    that's relatively bulletproof. Darkode's new backend is hosted in Panama, with ccihosting.com

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  • UrDNUrDN Member

    William said: http://www.2X4.ru

    now owned by Russian Government (medvedev group)

    Ah, can you tell me more about that?

    www.urdn.com.ua - KVM/Qemu hosting in Sweden.

  • KwiceroLTD, I knew about vinahost.vn already but I have added your suggestion of https://vdsinside.com - Thanks for your input. Didn't know darkode was hosted there. It was just shut down by feds a few months ago I read..

  • @theblackesthat running a torrent tracker is not illegal

    KAT for example deletes content upon request from the copyright holders. Warez-bb gets crawled by bots to take down the links.

    (((o(゚▽゚)o))) If privacy is outlawed, only outlaws will have privacy. (((o(゚▽゚)o)))

    ヽ(`Д´)ノ Everyone should run Tor on their idle servers.

  • @4n0nx said: KAT for example deletes content upon request from the copyright holders. Warez-bb gets crawled by bots to take down the links.

    so technically kickass (shitty site) is not hosted bulletproof because they comply with at least some laws

    @William how about someone like @UrDN? would they be "bulletproof" minus the spam/scam takedowns?

  • WilliamWilliam Member, Provider
    edited August 2015

    UrDN said: Ah, can you tell me more about that?

    Sorry, that was Wahome/Webalta - Seems 2x4 moved their HW out of there, though both are not really known to be reliable at all.

    Relationship Wahome = Gov was based on them kicking all carding boards (and even warez) and starting to announce IP space owned by "Medvedev group" which contained a bunch of .gov.ru sites (seems now moved to another ISP and Wahome/Webalta seems to be closed down)

    Cikon said: @William how about someone like @UrDN? would they be "bulletproof" minus the spam/scam takedowns?

    I doubt they can keep warez online - Demonoid had to move out of Ukraine before it closed (was hosted at Colocall) as the law works even there, albeit very slowly - War might have changed gov priorities but the new gov in Kiev is pretty EU friendly.

  • randvegetarandvegeta Member, Provider
    edited August 2015

    @William, Pachosting is owned by a criminal on probabtion? Who? BTW, have you heard of Hostfresh and all their new trading names?

    Indeed most hosts in HK would not be bullet proof. They probably dont actively look for clients that violate their TOS but they definitly act upon receieving a notice.

  • WilliamWilliam Member, Provider
    edited August 2015

    Yea, confused Pacswitch = Pachosting, never heard of them before, was late already...

    Pacswitch Globe Telecom Limited = Pacswitch = MIHK-HK = MIHK = HK Transit Network = You know exactly who i mean

    Fixed, along with some more infos about some and some small changes.

    theblackesthat said: William, You know as well as I there are plenty of warez sites online

    Yes, and most of them shuffle hosts monthly now (if public sites) or are hosted on BP providers normal people can't buy from, your poing being?

    For German warez sites CloudFlare is currently popular but as most are luckily totally incompetent i (and everyone else) easily sees through it - Voxility is often used behind it still, which has since moved away from allowing such activity for "Higher profile" sites after they got "issues" with Romanian law enforcement, nobody cares yet about the smaller sites but you can be 100% sure that after a certain treshold (aka the first RO gov inquiry about the server owner) they will get kicked as well.

    theblackesthat said: For instance, you said SunnyVision kicks for warez activity. Which I'm sure they do and I'm sure is outlawed in their TOS. However if you look up a prominent warez forum, they are hosted there. http://whois.domaintools.com/warez-bb.org http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/warez-bb.org

    Warez-BB is not a SunnyVision hosting customer - Their ISP, which is BP and you can't buy from (and was created specifically just for Warez-BB), buys connectivity from SunnyVision and others and shuffles once kicked out all few months - This /24 specifically only hosts a single server (usually a cheap one even) with Nginx that proxies to their real server hosted at another HK ISP - Some months ago it still was announced in a Chinese ISPs network (in HK), in a few weeks it will be somewhere else and then repeat that show again until they run out of ISPs willing to announce them when they collect some donations again and move the forum to another country or create another APNIC entity and resell the old IP space. Warez-BB is also not a good example as they actually DO remove content as per DMCA.

    theblackesthat said: Or is it just a matter of time until they are busted

    That. See countless busts before - Ecatel raided (initiated by NL gov), Cyberbunker raided (by a special operations team, which failed once on the doors but at another time came back with heavier equipment), Webalta/2x4 raided (for carding, in Russia, you seriously need to be criminal as fuck to get raided in Russia), Leaseweb forced to cooperate (by BREIN and NL gov after losing multiple court cases - Though they DID fight it out in court, which is pretty rare), Portlane forced to cooperate (by SE gov, forced to remove all TPB content and their reverse proxies or pay xxxxxEUR/day, has legal liability to watch network for it and remove on sight or pay), PRQ sued to shit and forced to cooperate (by SE gov, now essentially bankrupt - though their financial situation was never good), countless spam operations raided and shut down, RBN dismantled and their parts now operating legit or within close grey area laws (like warez sites are not exactly illegal in Hungary or Latvia yet and formerly were legal in Spain, again a bait and switch tactic is used to just change jurisdictions faster than law enforcement can cooperate -even inside the EU).

    theblackesthat said: Also, https://demonii.com and http://coppersurfer.tk are currently the most used public torrent trackers out there

    Running a tracker itself is currently not defined as illegal in many countries, LeaseWeb and NFOrce happily run some of the larger ones in their NL locations - As long as you don't host torrent files itself (illegal as you make content available), and they do not have that and not even hashes on the website (like TPB, which is semi legal now as well), there are no files available for download (so nothing public) and this is legal (or rather "Not fought out to highest instance yet") in both NL and Germany.

    randvegeta said: BTW, have you heard of Hostfresh and all their new trading names?

    Would not trust them with my data, they ran and will probably run again. Last time i checked their Ltd was overdue on accounts in HK.

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  • TrafficTraffic Member
    edited August 2015

    William said: None, there is no one anymore that accepts Spam and the ones still accepting warez are not public (Akrino/Ex-RBN and alike) or run their own hosters which are, again, not public (like yts.to)

    You can host on Akrino if you know who to contact though. Or you used to can.

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  • WilliamWilliam Member, Provider
    edited August 2015

    Traffic said: You can host on Akrino if you know who to contact though. Or you used to can.

    LIke who does that? Their entire /22 seems to only host kinox and movie2k which are owned by the same people. It's also not really public if you need to know someone - Anders can probably help with that though, they seem to have a very loving relationship to not getting kicked.

  • @William London Trust Media is PrivateInternetAccess VPN.

  • WilliamWilliam Member, Provider

    Removed. Interesting that they found a single legit customer... probably not for long lol

  • randvegetarandvegeta Member, Provider

    @William,

    Hostfresh => Infomove => Simcentric => DataPlugs

    They are the scum of HK and for a long time were the hosts of Warez-BB. Probably still are. Behind all those reverse proxies any way.

  • WilliamWilliam Member, Provider
    edited August 2015

    theblackesthat said: To me, Offshore means doesn't follow US/UK Law. Some people can also attribute it to ignoring DMCA or Spam. Seems like everyone has varying definitions of what exactly it means though. Would love to hear what other people think of when they hear offshore hosting.

    No, but you praise your list as "bulletproof" which implicates Spam and Botnets allowed - Offshore definition is in the eye of the beholder, bulletproof definition is pretty clear.

  • TrafficTraffic Member
    edited August 2015

    William said: No, but you praise your list as "bulletproof" which implicates Spam and Botnets allowed - Offshore definition lies in the eye of the beholder, bulletproof definition is pretty clear.

    Does any of those allow spamvertising (receiving traffic from SPAM advertising) in your experience?

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  • As per our hostkey.com experience, any spam activities ends in Spamhaus black listing swiftly, so its not an option to support it. As we understands offshore - since we host in Russia, we have to follow Russian law - not a USA or Zimbabwean ones. There are established procedures for copyright problems and so on, we have to follow it. For foreigners it will be like offshore heaven, since nobody will care about it locally and there will be no reports about it. So as moral principles, we strictly prohibits any activities which intended to rob someone personal - fraud, phishing, carding, SIP scanning, botnets and so on. Do not steal. We will ban on sight if its will be reported.

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  • WilliamWilliam Member, Provider
    edited August 2015

    Note: condemn any spamming and don't recommend or approve of it at all - This is purely for informational purposes.

    Most Russian ISPs don't seem to give much fuss about that, most Chinese ISPs that allow hosting without ICP license (rare by now) don't care much either. Chinese ISPs without direct port 80 block (only on abuse/report by chinese gov, which seems to be legal) surely work some days as well.

    In general if the server does not send spam yourself from the box and really ONLY get traffic from links within spam mails this ISPs don't care:

    • If they don't use a (hacked) redirector, aka the spamvertised URL is going directly to the server (aka way more abuse and automated abuse) this ISPs (known) won't care:

    http://www.datacenter.ir/ (Iran)

    http://www.parsonline.com/ (Iran)

    http://borneo.kg/ (Kyrgyzstan)

    http://www.afranet.com/ (Iran)

    • If it goes by a redirector, aka Spamcop and similar services won't send abuse to the backend server owner, the list is a bit longer (plus the ones above):

    Ecatel (NL) - NL, Works for some days.

    http://space.kz/ - Kazahkzstan, popular with Russian spammers

    Popular, judging from spam i receive (only from today) and a quick resolving of the redirector/target URLs:

    Global Village - Brazil (Enduser ISP, probably hacked)

    Telmex Colombia - Colombia (Enduser ISP, probably hacked also)

    In general if you want to know such things create an email address at an ISP without much filtering (or run a simple mailserver yourself), post the mail somewhere visible (signature in a forum, blog comments, usenet etc) and wait for spam to arrive (should only take some days) - Then scan this mail for X-Forwarded-For, Sender and linked ISPs and see if they offer hosting or if they are likely just hacked proxies.

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  • William said: Note: condemn any spamming and don't recommend or approve of it at all

    I didn't mean I wanted to spamvertise. Sorry if it sounded like that.

    Affiliate programs are often promoted by spammers, if they are in profitable niches. Action would be taken upon the spammer's account (disable it) however, I need a DC that will understand this situation.

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  • dodgydodgy Member
    edited August 2015

    William said: https://ecodissident.net

    likely German owned (half assed anonymous operation), not BP.

    Owned by this British company https://www.webarch.net/

    Creative Arts Development Space (CADS)
    Snow Lane
    Shalesmoor
    Sheffield
    S3 7AL
    

    they don't even make any attempt to be anonymous

  • @Traffic : spamming threads here isnt enough? on to email as well ?

  • Iran? Hmmmm... I think the NSA probably pwns those boxes. No way you get a clean IP.

  • UrDNUrDN Member
    edited August 2015

    William said: Demonoid had to move out of Ukraine before it closed (was hosted at Colocall) as the law works even there, albeit very slowly

    It was not kicked out of Ukraine, it's a lie. Demonoid are a bunch of crooks and they made up some story, the government of Ukraine even had to issue a statement to say that they have never even thought to shutdown the site.

    The only time there was an attempt to make a gift to the U.S was the arrest of the directors of ex.ua . The action was a complete violation of the constitution of Ukraine (this happens often because people don't know their rights), but since ex.ua had a legal advisor the site was back to work 3 days later. During the downtime it was even a panic even at the security service department because they did not know where they could download their shitty cracked Windows XP.

    The EU thingy is just a trick for the government to suck some money, they can't make such laws because they would violate the constitution and it could lead to their overthrown. You must know that the previous government was kicked only because on that day they had decided to make a law that prohibits people from purchasing SIM cards without a passport. The so called activists then rushed to the parliament and the fight began. All of this while in most EU countries it is mandatory to register your passport when purchasing a SIM card but people just don't know about that as most have never travelled anywhere else but in Russia.

    In Ukraine it is possible to preserve your rights if you have enough knowledge, most people are abused simply because they have no clue and the majority is also scared as they spent a part of their life in the Soviet Union where it was totally impossible to do anything against the government.

    In Russia for a couple of years now it is similar to what was in the Soviet Union, basically Russia removed everything that was good from the soviet times and is restoring all the bad things. They can violate the constitution and laws and it becomes harder and harder to do anything against that.

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  • William said: http://www.netelligent.ca

    Not BP, operates closely with canadian laws which are not sure yet if torrent trackers are really illegal - Kicks all other warez sites (DDL etc.)

    -> Allows some warez, major sport streaming sites there as well.

    William said: http://www.hostkey.com *

    Not BP, kicks any spam and warez site after some abuse. Owner/Staff active on LET under alias @tgk76

    -> Allows warez linking forums. No issues until brein contacts them for NL location, in RU its fine

    William said: https://selectel.com

    Not BP, kicks any spam and warez site. More or less legit russian host - hosted some Russian warez before.

    -> Allows botnets, scanners and everything until they get a spamhaus listing. Then you must clear IP. No whole server termination.

    William said: http://privatelayer.com *

    No, really? No, not useable for anything BP requiring, hosts some warez in CH but is in constant legal fight with authorities and on the verge of getting depeered by Cogent

    -> How do you know that? Loads of warez there.

    William said: https://www.voxility.com

    Closing down any servers used for P2P and warez after certain size, nope.

    -> Turning into good guys, allowed anything in the past. You can still get away with things if you go via reseller with its own ip range. Then they dont care.

    William said: http://www.xservers.ro

    Legit host, does not allow anything banned by any EU country. Recently raided IIRC (was in Romanian news, @Maounique can probably tell more)

    -> Used to be xservers.eu, mass scale spam and xrumes. They were in Germany, Netherlands and now Romania.

    William said: http://www.ecatel.info *

    Youre joking right? Ecatel now follows NL laws, even though their abuse dept sucks ass - Now mainly used for untraceable booters as they allow spoofed UDP. On constant verge of getting depeered (happens all the time, then they just switch to the next either unknowing or unwilling to enforce prefix lists/spoofing filters ISP)

    -> They only follow laws when then absolutely must - no other choice before lawsuit or de-peer.

    William said: https://www.altushost.com

    Quite funny history, will kick on pretty much any abuse, tries hard to become legit, advertises/d on LET/LEB

    -> Owned by Serbian citizen, made a fortune hosting spam, phishing and avoiding taxes. Incorporated in NL last year, tries to be legit, yet hosts warez directly or via reseller - http://warez-host.com

    Shitty provider, avoid.

    William said: https://www.server.lu

    God no, once they know you do something illegal in LU (and this list is long by now) they kick you overnight.

    -> Warez linking is fine until some major EU anti-piracy agency contacts them.

    William said: http://www.warez-host.com *

    God no, does nothing like the name implies.

    -> Owned by Iran citizen. Hosts everything, altushost reseller. Avoid both, shitty service.

  • WilliamWilliam Member, Provider

    gh0st007 said: -> Allows botnets, scanners and everything until they get a spamhaus listing. Then you must clear IP. No whole server termination.

    Got me kicked for nmaping 0/0 without Spamhaus listing (while ISPs like Vultr do not seem to care about that)

    gh0st007 said: -> How do you know that? Loads of warez there.

    Highly bad reviews in German forums for warez and similar websites - Still existing warez sites on Privatelayer are very small.

    gh0st007 said: -> They only follow laws when then absolutely must - no other choice before lawsuit or de-peer.

    No, Ecatel now even kicks/disables for simple DoS if you provide them with 3 lines of tcpdump/netflow, see latest WHT thread about them - Their rep even stated that themself.

    gh0st007 said: -> Warez linking is fine until some major EU anti-piracy agency contacts them.

    Nope, again, kicked multiple german warez sites overnight.

  • KwiceroLTDKwiceroLTD Member
    edited August 2015

    iirc darkode had a vendor going by WebHosting who offered BP servers in Lebanon in a DC he worked at. He offered physical theft protection (no joke), in case some thieves broke into the datacenter and stole your server hardware. off-sho.re was good also, until he up and vanished one day with about $30k in his BTC wallet, roughly another $20k in WMZ. However, he just hosted content in Luxembourg, under a shell company registered in UK. off-sho.re was rather cheap compared to WH, $100 for a VPS with 100 gb hard drive, 1 gb ram, proxmox cp for control iirc. At one point off-sho.re was moderator on darkode with l3n0. Mafi was cool, but when KMS came on he brought the HQ level of DK much higher than any other kids because he knew his shit. He brought starfall on sometime later iirc, both of them are fed informants anyway. If memory serves me correctly either Zoned or off-sho.re invited KMS, I believe it was Zoned, off-sho.re vouched for him along with sp3c.

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  • OMG, no, I am not part of the illegal scene, so far I am only involved in legal stuff, until it will become illegal.
    In theory, once there will be satellite broadband, you can host anything some remote neck of woods in the no man's land or on a ship. But it will be quickly out of fashion once a real darknet over some mesh will emerge, it wont be long now, 2-3 years maybe.

    Extremist conservative user, I wish to preserve human and civil rights, free speech, freedom of the press and worship, rule of law, democracy, peace and prosperity, social mobility, etc. Now you can draw your guns.

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  • WilliamWilliam Member, Provider
    edited August 2015

    Maounique said: In theory, once there will be satellite broadband, you can host anything some remote neck of woods in the no man's land or on a ship

    huh, you can do that already? That is how most i.e. Lebanese ISPs get their transit for now and how Cuba was connected until Venezuela built the subsea cable... it just is not cheap. Sat provider can also trace 2 way systems with the latency of the uplink, but only to an area of a few km2 (easy to triangulate as you know where the sat is currently and can pinpoint location by calculating the latency the signal needs to travel at speed of light).

  • From what I understand, basically you need to have a "friends host" to get real bp hosting and it'll probably cost a lot.

    Reality does hurt!

  • William said: huh, you can do that already?

    indeed, but real "broadband" is extremely expensive and every customer is well vetted, that will change in a couple of years and it will become possible to actually host something.

    Extremist conservative user, I wish to preserve human and civil rights, free speech, freedom of the press and worship, rule of law, democracy, peace and prosperity, social mobility, etc. Now you can draw your guns.

  • KwiceroLTDKwiceroLTD Member
    edited August 2015

    @alexvolk said: From what I understand, basically you need to have a "friends host" to get real bp hosting and it'll probably cost a lot.

    Not really, if you cover your tracks and don't make everything very obvious, you can last quite a while. Off-sho.re's subnets sent tons of spam, even hosted damagelab at one point, darkode at one point before he ran away (offshore). I believe sp3c paid roughly $3000 a month to offshore for hosting + ddos protection. ddos filtered threw switzerland and a backend in lux.

    edit: Just found when offshore used vox - http://www.ipaddressden.com/ip/37.221.161.153.html

    edit 2: his lt block http://www.tcpiputils.com/browse/ip-address/5.199.171.192 from 2012:

    person: Tony Starsky

    address: Gladstonos 319 Paphos

    phone: +63 9472662035

    abuse-mailbox: [email protected]

    nic-hdl: TS1-CY

    mnt-by: DUOMENUCENTRAS-MNT

    created: 2012-09-28T06:46:13Z

    last-modified: 2012-09-28T06:46:13Z

    source: RIPE # Filtered

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  • Thanks everyone for their input and suggestions. I have updated the original link to include all of your input.

  • IxamHostingIxamHosting Member
    edited August 2015

    Voxility got very strict over the past years. More strict then OVH.

    Source: own experience. Back in beginning of 2014 they terminated a Node with 150 VPS on it. Because of two Abuse reports. Didnt even got us the chance to remove those Abusers. And refused to give us our data so we can move. Which got us big problems. We have paid them thousands a month. After that i couldnt trust them anymore and moved on with all Servers.

    They began to be stricter and stricter since they closed limehost.ro and expanded. Our first servers where from limehost.ro (voxilitys brand back in the days). They didnt give a shit about most shit.

    But what about adding InfiumHost to the list?

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  • @IxamHosting said: But what about adding InfiumHost to the list?

    InfiumHost is dead after migration from Ukraine.

    --

    @KwiceroLTD damagelab? It's a security forum not hard to host. Most good underground forums are with closed membership.

    If someone wants bp hosting search here https://zeustracker.abuse.ch/monitor.php?filter=filesonline or just search some russian security forums (see damagelab for example).

    Reality does hurt!

  • alexvolk said: InfiumHost is dead after migration from Ukraine.

    Really? o.O What did exactly happen and when?

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  • JonchunJonchun Member, Provider

    @Clouvider said: "Offshore" can you be more specific? Off which shore precisely?

    The only shore that matters.

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  • gh0st007gh0st007 Member
    edited August 2015

    KwiceroLTD said: Not really, if you cover your tracks and don't make everything very obvious, you can last quite a while. Off-sho.re's subnets sent tons of spam, even hosted damagelab at one point, darkode at one point before he ran away (offshore). I believe sp3c paid roughly $3000 a month to offshore for hosting + ddos protection. ddos filtered threw switzerland and a backend in lux.

    edit: Just found when offshore used vox - http://www.ipaddressden.com/ip/37.221.161.153.html

    edit 2: his lt block http://www.tcpiputils.com/browse/ip-address/5.199.171.192 from 2012:

    person: Tony Starsky

    address: Gladstonos 319 Paphos

    phone: +63 9472662035

    abuse-mailbox: [email protected]

    nic-hdl: TS1-CY

    mnt-by: DUOMENUCENTRAS-MNT

    created: 2012-09-28T06:46:13Z

    last-modified: 2012-09-28T06:46:13Z

    source: RIPE # Filtered

    -> lol what a moron. Buys a voxility and re-sells for 10x more as offshore hosting. I wonder what kind of morons buy that nowadays. Cyber criminals being stupid?

  • WilliamWilliam Member, Provider
    edited August 2015

    IxamHosting said: Voxility got very strict over the past years. More strict then OVH.

    Exactly. Vox is now extremely strict on abuse - Especially if they have to (again) deal with RO police which is neither nice nor very understanding and has, compared to FR/DE/AT, very far reaching rights including confiscating your HW for many years without a judge even looking at the order.

    gh0st007 said: lol what a moron. Buys a voxility and re-sells for 10x more as offshore hosting. I wonder what kind of morons buy nowadays. Cyber criminals being stupid?

    Idiots, what did you expect? Can't even whois an IP....

    alexvolk said: InfiumHost is dead after migration from Ukraine.

    IIRC the owner (again a German, how unexpected, most crime hosters have their history somewhere connected to Germany or Austria) got massive problems with the German FBI (BKA) and decided to become "legit". Not really reliable anymore.

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  • gh0st007gh0st007 Member
    edited August 2015

    William said: IIRC the owner (again a German, how unexpected, most crime hosters have their history somewhere connected to Germany or Austria)

    lol interesting. Kim Dotcom also comes from Germany. Germany being the source of warez and cyber crime? :P

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