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Sick of spam

I'm totally sick of spam e-mail and the way i see it is i have three options, which are:

  1. setup ASSP or some other spam filtering proxy to filter the mail and pass it to my current host or

  2. Take charge of my e-mail and setup a full mail server (probably using something like mail in a box)

  3. pass it to someone who only does e-mail (and has decent spam filtering)

what would you do? why? and any recommendations greatly received.

thanks

chip

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  • Buy email hosting from mxroute, it's well worth the price.

    Thanked by 4chip jar Pwner GCat
  • delete manually. that's what I'm doing.

    Thanked by 2chip linuxthefish
  • ClouviderClouvider Member, Patron Provider

    Spam Experts. If you are looking for a hosted setup on our Spam Experts Cloud platform please drop me a PM. We will work something out.

  • chipchip Member

    @lewissue said:
    delete manually. that's what I'm doing.

    that can take ages and i get hundred's of e-mails on multiple e-mail accounts, one of them is nearly 99% of the time spam.

    chio

  • lewissuelewissue Member
    edited August 2015

    @chip said:

    I don't have automatic setup at all. each time I provision service manually, whmcs spamms me

    Thanked by 1Shamli
  • How about servermx.com? They have some nice filtering.

  • chipchip Member

    @lewissue said:
    I don't have automatic setup at all. each time I provision service manually, whmcs spamms me

    Nice, I don't envy you with all them in your inbox but..I get the viagra, African ceo of a bank who wants to give me millions etc

    I'm sick of having to delete them all.

  • gmail is pretty good at filtering spam, though there's the privacy element etc etc

  • chipchip Member

    @ricardo said:
    gmail is pretty good at filtering spam, though there's the privacy element etc etc

    I have issue with Google changing things when it suites them and not properly notifying users... I also don't like making big companies bigger when I don't have to (it's a personal choice)

    Chip

    Thanked by 1inthecloudblog
  • GM2015GM2015 Member
    edited August 2015

    There's Zoho:
    https://www.zoho.com/mail/zohomail-pricing.html

    I don't see any spam and it runs on cpanel I think.

    Free works for me and don't have to deal with their support at all. But it's pretty strange to navigate first. They've got catch-all and mail-forwarding, too plus a lot of other stuff which you probably won't need.

    Though mail-forwarding confirmation email led to a file not found page, lol.

  • @chip said:

    Go with Mxroute from @Jar
    I've been hearing only positive feedback.

    Thanked by 1jar
  • Gmail is an option but I got my account almost full

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    @black said:
    Buy email hosting from mxroute, it's well worth the price.

    <3

    @chip said:
    I also don't like making big companies bigger when I don't have to (it's a personal choice)

    Well I work hard on filtering, and although MXroute has several imperfections that I'm working out (mostly just unnecessary complexity in a couple of setup steps, interface work needed for control panel), it's a very small business and I don't ever plan on seeing it grow large.

    I prefer to be that neighbor that you trust to fix your car, only I provide email hosting instead ;)

  • chipchip Member
    edited August 2015

    @Jar said:
    I prefer to be that neighbor that you trust to fix your car, only I provide email hosting instead ;)

    That's it jar, with bigger companies your just a number and a yearly billing figure. They don't care about their customers as well as a smaller company (and they can't really because of the number of customers being in the tens of thousands or millions in the case of Google/ ms)

    Chip

    Thanked by 1jar
  • UrDNUrDN Member

    Just setup your own mail server + some tools such as dspam. All the crap will be flagged after some days. Make it empty the junk folder every week and you're good. Eventually you can use SPF records to be notified on spoofing attempts but common senses are always better.

    You will not be bothered any longer by the spam and you will not give any clue to the spammers.

    Don't buy services from organizations which have secret filters working behind your back.

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran
    edited August 2015

    @UrDN said:
    Don't buy services from organizations which have secret filters working behind your back.

    Nothing secret at MXroute. Custom SpamAssassin rules (you're welcome to them just ask) + ClamAV with SaneSecurity signatures (specifically the unofficial-sigs package).

  • UrDNUrDN Member
    edited August 2015

    @Jar said:
    Nothing secret at MXroute. Custom SpamAssassin rules (you're welcome to them just ask) + ClamAV with SaneSecurity signatures.

    Yes I was not talking about mxroute, if mxroute uses that it's fine. I would not use SpamAssassin because it's written in perl, it's too slow and the code is fat. However I know that spamassin has options to activate a number of functions that would query external databases and this is where it can turn ugly.

    Thanked by 1jar
  • chipchip Member

    So far the consensus is to let someone else do it (which sounds like a good plan)

    And the recommendations have been:

    Zoho
    Mxroute (which has come highly recommended in this Thread)
    Servermx
    Google (which I'm not counting

    One person has also suggested setting up dspam and filtering the mail myself (which I like the idea of l but the attractiveness of sharing a server with other people probably receiving similar spam so I don't have to)

    Chip

  • jhjh Member

    Rackspace Apps has an excellent spam filter & interface and is v cheap.

  • doghouchdoghouch Member
    edited August 2015

    @lewissue said:
    delete manually. that's what I'm doing.

    LOL - it's hard when you've had the same email account for 10 years and spam rushes in like an awful, crap-filled flood.

  • The spam problem is not a technology problem. It's a problem with how people use their email address. There is a corresponding problem (telemarketers) when it comes to phone numbers.

    The basic issue is that people use one "identifier" that they give to everyone. As a result, anyone can pass it off to anyone else, including spammers. So the real solution to that, done by whatever technical means necessary, is to use a disposable email address, the burner phone of the Internet. :-)

    That way, any time you get a spam, you can stop it completely by getting rid of the address. If it's done right, you'll even know how the spammer got ahold of that address, so you can take further steps to protect yourself.

    I use absolutely no spam filtering on my email server, because I simply don't get much spam anymore. What spam I do get, I can track right back to the source (mainly whois scans, a few from my online resume, and an infrequent pull from Usenet posts).

    Thanked by 14n0nx
  • Why not just create a mail box for sites you got the feeling like they'll spam you and setup smth like SpamAssassin?

  • I use spamassassin and all that, but judging by my logs, no spam mail has been able to get past the simple checks like rdns, hostname, etc. . If you mainly receive e-mail (and don't send), aliases are great,too. Just give everything a different address :D

  • Mxroute spam filtering seems to very well work for tor relay email, and it filters stuff that gmail misses at times...

  • JonchunJonchun Member
    edited August 2015

    @impossiblystupid said:
    The spam problem is not a technology problem. It's a problem with how people use their email address. There is a corresponding problem (telemarketers) when it comes to phone numbers.

    The basic issue is that people use one "identifier" that they give to everyone. As a result, anyone can pass it off to anyone else, including spammers. So the real solution to that, done by whatever technical means necessary, is to use a disposable email address, the burner phone of the Internet. :-)

    That way, any time you get a spam, you can stop it completely by getting rid of the address. If it's done right, you'll even know how the spammer got ahold of that address, so you can take further steps to protect yourself.

    I use absolutely no spam filtering on my email server, because I simply don't get much spam anymore. What spam I do get, I can track right back to the source (mainly whois scans, a few from my online resume, and an infrequent pull from Usenet posts).

    That's an impossibly stupid idea.

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    jk couldn't help it pls don't hurt me

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    linuxthefish said: Mxroute spam filtering

    Only problem I'm having right now is adjusting it to filter but not push a penalty on the relay. It's a minor logic problem with the configuration. Right now I'm tossing out blackholes on spammers on the relay, and it's bypassing SpamAssassin for the moment. That's mostly why some of this crap is getting through. It hasn't been causing a lot of problems yet luckily :)

    Thanked by 1linuxthefish
  • For some reason I've received more junk mail at my personal not given to any company email then at the ones I've used to sign up for offers.

  • impossiblystupid said: The basic issue is that people use one "identifier" that they give to everyone.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

  • I use many accounts which funnel down to about six. I've had the main (most used) account for abut 8 years and the spam is tolerable. About 4 or 5 per day. I get larger amounts from from on-line input forms.

    FWIW, I think a commercial provider is worth while. Use your own SMTP if you like. The other thing is to use an e-mail client which allows you to use the delete (or single key of your choice) to quickly delete from the inbox without having to first click or mark any of them. One can hit a key repeatedly pretty fast.

    Thanked by 14n0nx
  • dragon2611dragon2611 Member
    edited August 2015

    http://www.postlayer.com or http://mxforce.com , They're both the same thing but the first one is aimed directly at end users the 2nd one is for hosting providers.

    Hosted anti-spam service, quite cheap and seems to manage to deal with the crap I get sent.

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