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IP/bandwidth is the expensive bit for HK...
What about host it in your own house as local bandwidth are blooming cheap just keep it up 24/7.
hahaha, no. If someone offers you 100$ colo in HK it's someones basement with a shitty pole fiber uplink (which get cut rather often).
Expect to pay at least 150$ with some BW and a bunch of IPs in a quality datacenter (Equinix, iAdvantage etc.)
Guy who runs this is nice - https://www.hkcolocation.net/cart.php?pid=10
I have a very vague memory of this guy not being clean at all, but I could be remembering the wrong HK provider... I am not 100 % sure, but bet I'm right since he was selling unmetered gigabit for $100 some years ago.
huh? What has he to do with iAdvantage? hkcolocation is the guy that hacked the stock exchange and was in jail, iAdvantage is owned by a Chinese group of investors.
You can get colo in HK for under $100 for 1U if the server doesnt need much bandwidth, 1IP and is low power. Our standard colo price is HK$700 which is just under US$100 but you are limited with regards to power/bw/IPs.
@Iifehome , what do you need ?
No one has a basement in Hong Kong. Even HK doesnt have that expensive colo SPACE. It's always the bandwidth that really makes things expensive.
eh, what? I obviously did not mean actual basement and you should know that, i meant either normal flat space (like "hkcolocation" has) or barely converted office space (like i4HK and similar).
Just being facetious :-).
Have you been to hkcolocation and i4HK's 'facilities'?
There are indeed a number of cheapo providers in HK outside the traditional 'DC' environment but it's not beyond the means of normal DC rack renters to lease space at $100 /server.
A rack in HK may cost about $1,000 with small amount of power and bandwidth, probably enough for 20 machines as standard. You can upgrade power, bandwidth and IPs to accommodate more. Even at $2k for a rack with enough power and limited bandwidth per machine, $100 for a 1U colo can be profitable.
Plenty of HK providers also lease servers at around US$150 /month. Colo really SHOULD be cheaper than rental.
Yes, i also was in the Chinese University (HKIX core), Equinix (HK1), iAdvantage Mega (before restructuration of power), iAdvantage Jumbo, NTT (now HKNET), Shenzhen Data Tech (which is not HK but near anyway), Topway (again Shenzhen), SmartOne (Macao), SmartOne (HK, Cage in iAdvantage Jumbo), CT(d)M (Macao), i4HK, Hutchinson/Three, Wharf, Pacswitch (aka HKcolocation) among others.
Most of these, with the exception of Pacswitch/HKcolocation, are pretty good DCs - Especially the ones in Shenzhen are surprisingly modern (AC/Power wise, but BW sucks in Mainland obviously).
@William,
Seems you have a lot of HK experience. Though I am surprised you gave i4HK a visit. Which i4HK site did you see? Kwai Chung location? What did you think of it?
SZ DC are indeed quite a surprise, but their charges are absurd.
What were you doing in HK looking at all the DCs, if you don't mind my asking.
@William I doubt Equinix lease 1U space... Also it will not be cheaper than others. I have been quoting all around, from HKIX where I have connection with staffs there, to HKBN where they offer me a weirdo company which I can't figure out who is owning it (named in "HostFriendly"). iAdvantage is quite a #LOL and #OMFG before, where their offer was something like 512kbps uplink, not kidding but that's kinda awful for me. Also Pangnet would be good, but no luck in having way to contact them. Hutchinson/Three Wharf/NTT/PacHosting are known as a bunch of "Chinese" playground, the Backdoor injection incident was happened with PacHosting's sister company(subsidiary? Not sure) Ximbo, but both smells fishy.
Hkcolocation could be a good choice after your summary, but their website and history seems darken as SunnyVision... Just being said, @Nyr you are right.
Most of them are requiring indeed $150 or up, but that's really kinda out of my budget. Tho we already know, this is Hong Kong. That's why I am desperately seeking for something cheaper.
@randvegeta I need some place for my Dell R610. Kinda old-school, but will work for some civic projects
How much bandwidth do you need? Everyone's been talking bandwidth here and how expensive it would be - it might help if you let us know.
HKBN/HostFriendly provides shared 1000Mbps for local and 20Mbps for overseas connection, with 1v4 1U 3A power for around $110. These specs are fine and enough for my use.
But seeking for cheaper.... Possible?
1U colocation with 5Mbps direct China bandwidth costs around $300 /Month.
That sounds like broadband connection to me. And your Dell will be a monster power consumer. $100 /m will be hard unless yoy are okay with no UPS and use just cheap broadband. In which case, why not just do it at home?
@Jylee Not really in need/favor of "direct China" cuz I just facing the local HK audience.
@randvegeta:
a) Residential ISP prohibit servers hosted at home for public services, including but not limit to IRC, Web, FTP/OwnCloud-like, CalDAV, rsync, etc.
b) It's noisy that my roommates and family is complaining.
Is it for profit stuff?
Apparently that's who they use for colocation on the order form!
Oh lol https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2012/11/12/ddos-marketing-stunt/
They seem to offer "direct China" only...
Leaseweb has DC in HK but i dont know they offer colo or not.. But as i know they has HK Dedicated Server for sale
Private sites(blogs/devbox), some civic project mirror for Code4HK, one game community site(self-financed, not for profit), ZNC, etc.
@DianTama Hmm, I can't see info from their web, maybe shoot a mail later then.
Leaseweb. HK DC is quietly new maybe u can contact em to get more info..
https://www.leaseweb.com/colocation
Yea, Kwai Chung (Do they have anything else besides the core network in iAdvantage? I IIRC asked for iAdvantage colo once but there was nothing available at the time)
The offers i got were actually pretty good power wise, Space was pretty much the same as HK but the BW was useless (obviously only the mainland carriers, no HK backhaul, no HK carriers besides it being a SEZ and having direct fiber to HK/MO)
All of my former employers wanted a HK location at one point (and i offered HK VPS before myself), so i managed that for them
HKBN was at least some years ago questionable, their clients were "mailing" and alike - You can also expect the 20Mbit to be highly shared, though the local BW should be solid (as with anyone with HKIX and some private peering). Make sure you also check that your target ISPs are really "local" for them, some only peer with large DCs or don't at all (like HKNet, being owned by NTT and all).
They're the largest fixed broadband provider currently in HK and are one of the most respected companies on that side of things. They revolutionized and freed the market from a PCCW monopoly back in the days with fiber to the home.
i don't doubt that, but their hosting clients were clearly questionable - Which is also proven by 50% of their server IP space being blacklisted...
I'm looking into other providers and Voxility turns up in the end of the Google search page. Any idea if I should use their service? They're like REALLY over my budget tho.
Voxility has nothing in HK (at least did not some time ago) - Yes, it is on the website, and you can in theory buy it, but there is no networks routed and you can't get BW from them. Essentially they will resell you a rack in Equinix with a Crossconnect to someone else.
**SNIP**
My bad not reading.Oh jeez this is so horrible.
100$/mo will fetch you 1U