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Remote Management
Is there a cheap way to install remote management capability on a server for out of band access to reboot server, install OS etc....? Or does the mobo have to have this capability on it already. I plan on installing remote management capability on an atom server for a different project I am doing.
As it stands now, YDGH has always requested reboots and used a kvm - no remote management interfaces.
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reboot via ssh?
Do you have any PCI slots with an Atom motherboard? (Silly question, but never actually seen one).
If you do, you should be able to get a card.
Hmm. Why not fully virtualize the node using kvm virtualization and then do what ever you want to? Performance loss will be heard to notice.
Yes there is one PCI slot.
Out of band access is needed....
Most server motherboard support IPMI, even if it's only CLI access and uses a shared NIC. Our SuperMicro board for our Intel Atom has IPMI included but it doesn't have a dedicated NIC like the higher end board do.
If you're really in a pinch, what I used to do was install Citrix XenServer first and then create a Xen HVM VPS using all of the server resources so it's essentially a server sitting on a management OS. These days the same can be done with Proxmox and OpenVZ.
It's an atom board, don't you need VT for KVM? Atom does not have VT
Was already going to virtualize using openvz but I want to be able to manage the dedi regardless of power state/ kernel state
oop's wasn't paying attention.
You'll need to purchase an IPMI card then.
My bad. Didn't notice that.
Those work with any old motherboard? From what I was reading it seemed like it required something already on the mobo for it to work.
What did you read exactly? Something like this should work just fine:
http://www.raritan.co.uk/products/kvm-over-ip/ericg4/
http://www.raritan.co.uk/products/kvm-over-ip/ericg4/
I was reading this,
http://www.lantronix.com/it-management/kvm-over-ip/securelinx-spider.html
Cheaper on eBay though.
Pair this with remote hands and you basically just need to put 1 per rack. Remote power control would be nice pairing with this.
If you need it integrated, you'll realise that for an Atom it's cheaper to replace with a SM Atom w/IPMI inbuilt vs throwing a card at it.
From my link:
@Prometeus have it on their Atoms. You could check with him or @Maounique if what they use might work with yours.
Yes but that is also kvm over IP, do I HAVE to go that route?
Would love to hear what they have to say.
What level of out of band access do you need? I assumed it would be KVM level to install OSs etc.
Where can I buy those? From a quick google search it seems they want over $100 for a last generation atom.
Ability to power on/off regardless of power state on the server.
They use supermicro blade server atoms which have IPMI included. The "normal" desktop Atom boards don't have IPMI. Example: Kimsufi.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813182242
$179 seems expensive for the same specs I already have on a foxconn desktop mobo minus the IPMI.
The Raritan eRIC will set you back easily $100 as well, you might as well buy the SM Atom at $100 which comes with integrated IPMI. You can keep the old board for a rainy day.
Alternatively the Raritan eRIC can be carried over to another server if you choose to do so later on, but considering how PCI slots are getting non-existant in newer hardware, not a really good idea either.
So I'll be spending $110 more for IPMI.....
I don't think that is really viable on the low end atoms... I can buy a board meant for an e5 @ $300 that includes IPMI and $300 price point on a board that supports e5 is about the cheapest you can get.
http://www.supermicro.nl/products/system/2U/2015/SYS-2015TA-HTRF.cfm
I don't even consider anything to rack without remote management (ilo, ilom, ipmi, drac, etc.) :-)
@Corey you can buy an IPMI card if you have one free pci slot.
And this IPMI card will work regardless of what is on the mobo? If that is the case it seems the AOC-1UIPMI-B would do just fine.
Compatibility issues may exist, but I believe they work just fine. Like you said for another $300 bucks you probably can get a 1155 board + Celeron CPU that performs better.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Active_Management_Technology
Food for thought,
with Intel vPro technology
you need to check/try. :-(
Can always buy a cheap board + CPU that does. It's really too simple to beat an Atom right now in terms of horsepower and feature, only Atom benefit that's still unbeatable is power consumption.