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InfiumHost ditched by Spamhaus

Hello!

Few days ago InfiumHost has sent this message to all customers:

Hello!

We need to change ip at your server,
Reason - blacklist: http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/query/SBL250829
Firstly, we need to transfer customers to clean ips.
Just write in that ticket and we send you new network setting. If you have troubles with that - just send root password to us, and we change ip for you ASAP.
Thanks.

I went to see total number of IPs of AS and was shocked that it's now named as "European Regional Registry". One prefix was affected, one day after another...

http://bgp.he.net/AS197145#_prefixes

Just amazing how Spamhaus became now internet police! Your opinions guys ?

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Comments

  • tr1ckytr1cky Member

    InfiumHost always hosted the really bad guys, so what's the problem?

  • @tr1cky said:
    InfiumHost always hosted the really bad guys, so what's the problem?

    Still that doesn't mean that all clients was "bad".

  • NyrNyr Community Contributor, Veteran

    This was to be expected.

  • SBL234964 188.190.113.0/24 2014-10-28 Where infiumhost.com puts the Pharmacy Express botnet spammers

    lol

  • LV426LV426 Member

    alexvolk said: Still that doesn't mean that all clients was "bad".

    Lie down with dogs...

    Until we start executing spammers and disconnecting China, Russia and Ukraine from the Internet, Spamhaus is the best we have.

    Thanked by 2BensDaMan ricardo
  • Agree with LV426, tarred with the same brush, pick your host accordingly.

    Spamhaus became now internet police!

    Not the best thing, but probably better than no blacklists/feedback at all.

  • BharatBBharatB Member, Patron Provider
    edited June 2015

    Well Colocrossing seems to have improved alot except for a /15 range still in blacklist :/ and thats very fast blacklisting spamhaus does wonder how many people work there.

  • @LV426 said:

    Until we start executing spammers and disconnecting China, Russia and Ukraine from the Internet, Spamhaus is the best we have.

    Be careful with that. According to senderbase United States is #1. Also Netherlands sending spam close to China. Why Spamhaus doesn't take action against them? Probably scared or paid.

  • Mark_RMark_R Member

    Lets get it over with and disconnect everyone from the internets

  • NyrNyr Community Contributor, Veteran

    BharatB said: Colocrossing seems to have improved alot except for a /15 range still in blacklist :/

    Yeah, a /15 is nothing really. Just 128k IP addresses.

  • alexvolk said: Probably scared or paid.

    Bullshit, you have no idea what you talk about.

  • @William said:
    Bullshit, you have no idea what you talk about.

    Care to explain then?

  • WilliamWilliam Member
    edited June 2015

    Spamhaus does not touch most RU/UA ISPs because their upstreams are not willing to de-peer them, thus your post is bullshit entirely, no one pays Spamhaus and alike to do what they do.

  • @William said:
    Spamhaus does not touch most RU/UA ISPs because their upstreams are not willing to de-peer them, thus your post is bullshit entirely, no one pays Spamhaus and alike to do what they do.

    I was saying about USA and Netherlands which has a bigger spam rate than RU/UA together. Why Spamhaus doesn't touch most of those providers but instead pushing providers from RU/UA.

    That's a reason why I said paid or scared.

  • Neither true either, US spammers are mainly operating within US laws.

  • LV426LV426 Member

    alexvolk said: Be careful with that. According to senderbase United States is #1.

    They're also #1 for legitimate, positive and popular contributions to computing and the internet.

    I'm not sure Nginx, Kaspersky and... uh... 7-Zip? quite make up for years of botnets, spamming, malware, hacking, credit card theft/fraud, illegal pornography, mail order bride scams, etc etc etc.

  • @LV426 said:
    I'm not sure Nginx, Kaspersky and... uh... 7-Zip?

    If you're not sure just don't use.

  • They're also #1 for legitimate, positive and popular contributions to computing and the internet.

    It'd be interesting to see you define 'legitimate contributions to computing'.

  • LV426LV426 Member

    ricardo said: It'd be interesting to see you define 'legitimate contributions to computing'.

    Off the top of my head, I consider the IBM PC, the Apple I, the Apple II, Macintosh, NeXT, Commodore 64, Amiga, Atari ST, UNIX, DOS, Windows, NT, OS/2, OSX, BASIC, Java, the Z80, the 8080, the 386, the 486, the Pentium and the Internet to be legitimate contributions to computing.

  • @LV426 said:

    Cognitive disconnect lvl: 9000.

  • LV426LV426 Member

    @deadbeef said: Yap yap! Look at me!

    Aww that's cute... My very own cyber puppy to follow me around.

  • deadbeefdeadbeef Member
    edited June 2015

    @LV426 said:
    Aww that's cute... My very own cyber puppy to follow me around.

    You mean you're a bone with fleas? You need to get your self-respect higher. Work out a bit.

  • DroidzoneDroidzone Member
    edited June 2015

    @LV426 said:
    I'm not sure Nginx, Kaspersky and... uh... 7-Zip? quite make up for years of botnets, spamming, malware, hacking, credit card theft/fraud, illegal pornography, mail order bride scams, etc etc etc.

    Cool. Let's all start generalizing and attacking a country because it also harbours miscreants. What exactly is there to make up? There are unwanted elements in every country.
    I've seen India being portrayed as a nation with poor safety for women. All because of criminal or deviant elements that shame us.

    There have been contributions to development in all fields including Medicine, and we'd certainly not have had much progress across various fields, were it not for geniuses sans boundaries. Your post is amateurish and immature, and has no place in a global community.

    Thanked by 2deadbeef alexvolk
  • TrafficTraffic Member
    edited June 2015

    LV426 said: Until we start executing spammers and disconnecting China, Russia and Ukraine from the Internet, Spamhaus is the best we have.

    Is that supposed to be your solution to the SPAM problem?

    You know the computer / tablet / phone you're using to read this RIGHT NOW was made in China, right?

  • UrDNUrDN Member

    @LV426 said:
    Until we start executing spammers and disconnecting China, Russia and Ukraine from the Internet, Spamhaus is the best we have.

    I have rarely read such an idiotic comment.

    @William said:
    Spamhaus does not touch most RU/UA ISPs because their upstreams are not willing to de-peer them, thus your post is bullshit entirely, no one pays Spamhaus and alike to do what they do.

    Russian and Ukrainian networks do not care about spamhaus because public email services which most people use do not use their shitty lists thus being blacklisted is not causing much effect. Spamhaus will investigate neighbours networks which have email servers, potentially foreign organizations which are using email a lot and will add prefixes to their lists in order to force them to drop interconnections.

    We have seen that numerous times, there's never been a single evidence of spam, however we have a lot of evidences that this organization used coercion and blackmail to disrupt the disclosure of obviously very disturbing information. There are also evidences that the blackmail was direcly coordinated by Stephen Linford when the information were related to the money laundering scheme. We have collected a quite large amount of evidences and we're waiting for the most appropriate moment to have them released.

    Furthemore, most spams which I receive come from U.S networks which are "spamhaus friends". Interestingly their prefixes aren't added to spamhaus lists despite blatant proofs.

    Once we'll have reached the responsible for spamhaus' power, so outlook.com, yahoo.com and a few other craps which I forgot, spamhaus won't be a problem anymore. It's very hard for them to admit being

    If you seriously believe that a centralized blacklist, moreover controlled by an organization built on shell companies in various tax havens and virtual offices is honest and really working to get rid of spam, I'm sorry, but with all due respect, you're an incompetent idiot.

    As John Gilmore, founder of the EFF said:

    Get them to take off the blacklist on your incoming mail. It is usually hard -- but worth it. Who else's emails are you missing? Some of us figured out in the 1950s that blacklists were a bad idea.

  • UrDNUrDN Member

    Btw, Infiumhost is another example of what spamhaus has generated, IPv4 marketing for spam + unallocated prefix hijacking. If I would be a spammer, spamhaus would be the perfect tool to send my spam right into the inbox.

  • LV426LV426 Member

    @Droidzone said:

    The US is a major global force and polices nuclear proliferation elsewhere, but still is home to perhaps the largest market of drugs, and gun proliferation in its own soil.

    This isn't about drugs or guns, and crying about America doesn't change the fact that Russia is notorious for spam and cybercrime, being a fundamentally corrupt mafia state, from Putin down, with Russians who oppose or expose such gangsterism exiled, arrested or simply murdered, whether in Russia or abroad.

    I've seen India being portrayed as a nation with poor safety for women. All because of criminal or deviant elements that shame us.

    If criminal or deviant elements make safety a problem for women in India, then self-evidently India does have a problem with safety for women. Having your nationalist pride hurt over it doesn't change that and won't do anything to solve the problem.

    Your post is amateurish and immature, and has no place in a global community.

    No, it's countries that provide a safe haven for spam and cybercrime that have no place in a global community.

  • LV426LV426 Member

    @Traffic said:

    Is that supposed to be your solution to the SPAM problem?

    No, that's a picture you posted that has nothing to do with anything.

    My ideal solution to the spam problem is for countries to criminalise spamming, arrest spammers and prosecute spammers.

    When Usenet was still a major part of the internet there was a thing called a UDP (Usenet Death Penalty), to be used against providers or news servers that allowed too much spam or net abuse. Major networks were penalised, like Netcom and UUNet.

    It's somewhat ironic that people are so outraged at the (sadly impossible) concept that countries might be blocked for allowing net abuse, when those very same countries are happy to block their own citizens from free access to the internet.

    You know the computer / tablet / phone you're using to read this RIGHT NOW was made in China, right?

    Yes. What I don't know is what you think China's shitty working conditions and pay, that make it economical for companies to outsource manufacturing there, has to do with China's spam problem.

  • LV426LV426 Member

    @UrDN said:

    I have rarely read such an idiotic comment.

    Well you hadn't yet seen the next few paragraphs of your own post.

    We have collected a quite large amount of evidences and we're waiting for the most appropriate moment to have them released.

    Of course.

    If you seriously believe that a centralized blacklist, moreover controlled by an organization built on shell companies in various tax havens and virtual offices is honest and really working to get rid of spam, I'm sorry, but with all due respect, you're an incompetent idiot.

    Interesting that while you patiently 'wait for the appropriate moment' to release your non-existent "evidences", you don't let that prevent you making baseless allegations and vague insinuations about the honesty of Spamhaus and Steve Linford personally, who most people know a lot more about than they know about you.

    Get them to take off the blacklist on your incoming mail. It is usually hard -- but worth it. Who else's emails are you missing? Some of us figured out in the 1950s that blacklists were a bad idea.

    Because trying to prevent organised criminals rendering email unusable is literally McCarthyism.

  • UrDNUrDN Member
    edited June 2015

    @LV426 said:
    Interesting that while you patiently 'wait for the appropriate moment' to release your non-existent "evidences", you don't let that prevent you making baseless allegations and vague insinuations about the honesty of Spamhaus and Steve Linford personally, who most people know a lot more about than they know about you.

    I know how annoying it is for Spamhaus to not be able to figure out who is investigating them. How much do you know about Steve Linford? Not much apparently since you don't even know his name is Stephen, this is a very important point in the story btw. There are also numerous topic with evidences, including some we helped to write on lowendtalk.

    As for my baseless allegations, maybe you can explain all the spamhaus company registrations in tax havens that they need for operating a non-profit, entirely maintained by volunteers anti-spam organization?

    @LV426 said:
    Because trying to prevent organised criminals rendering email unusable is literally McCarthyism.

    The organized criminals are the people behind the pseudo anti-spam company who for a decade are laundering piles of tax frauds and whitewashing their reputation through blackmail.

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