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Vultr Long Term Reviews

SplitIceSplitIce Member, Host Rep

Considering Vultr as a replacement for DigitalOcean for a large Elasticsearch cluster due to their larger ram, and their large disk based storage tier.

  1. Anyone been using Vultr, Netherlands PoP long term? Got any reviews in regards to stability & performance etc?

  2. Additionally has anyone been using large amounts CPU/IO for long periods of time and had any issues? Are they like DigitalOcean and just throttle/schedule a bit or is a suspension more likely?

  3. I couldn't see it in the API documentation, is anyone aware of any way to determine the Physical Node you are located on? Its actually fairly important for distributed systems with built in redundancy.

Comments

  • I can only answer 2.

    They are really cool about large amounts of CPU/IO for long periods of time. I used to stress their servers a LOT, and they never complained.

    1. I'm using Vultr from the start and they're stable not exactly %100 but ~%99.

    2. CPU abusing is ok but I/O you'll be throttled. Probably they're not using even RAID and that's a reason why they're slow in terms of constant I/O.

    3. Probably you should create a ticket and ask? Haven't used API myself, so don't know.

    Smell benchmark:

    CPU model :  Vultr Virtual CPU 2
    Number of cores : 2
    CPU frequency :  3600.010 MHz
    Total amount of ram : 1877 MB
    Total amount of swap : 1503 MB
    System uptime :   40 days, 13:53,       
    Download speed from CacheFly: 57.0MB/s 
    Download speed from Coloat, Atlanta GA: 15.3MB/s 
    Download speed from Softlayer, Dallas, TX: 13.2MB/s 
    Download speed from Linode, Tokyo, JP: 6.50MB/s 
    Download speed from i3d.net, Rotterdam, NL: 56.9MB/s
    Download speed from Leaseweb, Haarlem, NL: 57.4MB/s 
    Download speed from Softlayer, Singapore: 5.40MB/s 
    Download speed from Softlayer, Seattle, WA: 11.3MB/s 
    Download speed from Softlayer, San Jose, CA: 11.2MB/s 
    Download speed from Softlayer, Washington, DC: 3.15MB/s 
    I/O speed :  112 MB/s
  • myhkenmyhken Member
    1. Used their Amsterdam node since the soft launch, and have had little to none issues there. Only was the time they just had a 100mbit connection there, but thats solved ages ago.
  • J1021J1021 Member
    edited May 2015

    SplitIce said: Anyone been using Vultr, Netherlands PoP long term? Got any reviews in regards to stability & performance etc?

    Amsterdam is now multihomed.

    HOST: server                      Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
      2.|-- border1.tshr.melbourne.co  0.0%    10    0.4   0.3   0.2   0.4   0.1
      3.|-- no-ptr.as20860.net         0.0%    10    0.7   0.8   0.7   1.0   0.1
      4.|-- 3505.core1.dc2.as20860.ne  0.0%    10    6.6   6.5   6.4   6.8   0.1
      5.|-- 250.core1.hex.as20860.net  0.0%    10    6.7  36.5   6.6 145.0  56.6
      6.|-- ae5.lon25.ip4.gtt.net      0.0%    10    6.6   6.7   6.5   7.3   0.2
      7.|-- xe-11-1-1.lon11.ip4.gtt.n  0.0%    10   15.1  15.1  15.0  15.5   0.1
      8.|-- as2914.lon10.ip4.gtt.net   0.0%    10   13.0  13.2  13.0  13.5   0.2
      9.|-- ae-7.r23.londen03.uk.bb.g  0.0%    10    7.3   8.3   6.9  11.2   1.7
     10.|-- ae-3.r22.amstnl02.nl.bb.g  0.0%    10   41.4  24.3  12.8  49.4  14.9
     11.|-- ae-1.r02.amstnl02.nl.bb.g  0.0%    10   13.8  13.7  13.5  13.9   0.1
     12.|-- ae-4.r00.amstnl03.nl.bb.g  0.0%    10   13.0  14.6  12.8  21.6   2.5
        |  `|-- 129.250.6.69
     13.|-- 81.20.72.122               0.0%    10   13.2  13.7  12.4  18.2   1.7
     14.|-- 108.61.198.102.vultr.com   0.0%    10   13.4  13.6  12.5  15.8   0.8
    HOST:                             Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
      2.|-- te3-4.cr2.man.bytemark.co  0.0%    10  195.8  20.2   0.5 195.8  61.7
      3.|-- te-8-1.car1.Manchester1.L  0.0%    10    0.7   6.1   0.5  55.6  17.4
      4.|-- CHOOPA-LLC.edge4.Amsterda  0.0%    10   13.4  13.9  13.4  17.6   1.3
      5.|-- 108.61.198.102.vultr.com   0.0%    10   13.5  13.6  13.4  13.8   0.1

    That's NTT and Level3 at the minimum.

    SplitIce said: I couldn't see it in the API documentation, is anyone aware of any way to determine the Physical Node you are located on? Its actually fairly important for distributed systems with built in redundancy.

    This isn't something the API covers however @DaveA has told me in the past it's unlikely a VM will be deployed on the same host node even when deployed in quick succession. You could probably submit a ticket after deploying and ask about that.

    alexvolk said: Probably they're not using even RAID and that's a reason why they're slow in terms of constant I/O.

    They don't disclose any RAID configurations, @DaveA has made off record comments that they're using some level of redundancy.

  • I'm dumping vultr at the moment. their API is broke.
    You can forget getting a response from them on the issue either.

    I'm done with those fools.

  • MikePTMikePT Moderator, Patron Provider, Veteran

    Vultr do have RAID setups.

  • NekkiNekki Veteran

    @MrGeneral said:
    Vultr do have RAID setups.

    Sauce?

  • DennisDDennisD Member

    @MrGeneral said:
    Vultr do have RAID setups.

    Sources please? Vultr has (as far as I know) never released any information about their RAID setup. There was a topic about it a while ago, they tried everything possible to avoid answering questions about whether they use RAID or not.

  • @kcaj said:
    They don't disclose any RAID configurations, DaveA has made off record comments that they're using some level of redundancy.

    They don't have any RAID, some level of redundancy is backups on host node. That's nothing in terms of speed and reliability!

  • I have a couple of servers in The Netherlands at Vultr, it's pretty good. Fast servers and 100% uptime as far as we have seen (they aren't production servers so we don't use Pingdom or anything).

    As for suspension, etc., well, I have never experienced that myself; so I can't answer that.

  • J1021J1021 Member

    alexvolk said: They don't have any RAID, some level of redundancy is backups on host node. That's nothing in terms of speed and reliability!

    Are you actually seeing any issues where the IO Vultr provides isn't sufficient for your use case or are you just spinning fanboi hype?

  • DazzleDazzle Member

    Vultr deleted account of my client twice and refused to reactive it nor to take backups after they got complains about spam (website hacked).

  • J1021J1021 Member
    edited May 2015

    Dazzle said: Vultr deleted account of my client twice and refused to reactive it nor to take backups after they got complains about spam (website hacked).

    If your account is receiving multiple complaints regarding activities such as spam, then I wouldn't expect them to do anything else. Good on them.

  • vultr backup sucks sooo bad.
    You can only go back 2 days.

  • I have been using service for a few months now. Rock solid in chicago can't comment on Netherlands.

    Bad news is they have been degrading service. When I first started they advertised 3+ cores. They recently reduced this to 2.4. My current server with them is running 3.6. I did some unixbenchmark test with my running server vs new build. Performance was 2179.8 on old running server, clean server showed 1422.8. This was a 768m chicago server BTW

    Today it also looks like we are being hit with price increase!

    Needless to say I am looking for a replacement!

  • MikePTMikePT Moderator, Patron Provider, Veteran

    @Nekki said:

    @DennisD said:
    Sources please? Vultr has (as far as I know) never released any information about their RAID setup. There was a topic about it a while ago, they tried everything possible to avoid answering questions about whether they use RAID or not.

    Dave said in IRC :p

  • Seriously2015Seriously2015 Member
    edited May 2015

    @nightshade - when did those price increases take effect? They now seem to be the same price as DO and Linode for anything 1 GB or above. Except they have the 20% sale. This is the old grocery store pricing strategy - up your base price, then lower it with a sale. Then terminate sale down the road and hope the price increase sticks.

  • nightshadenightshade Member
    edited May 2015

    I think sometime today.

    Thinking Choopa is wanting out of the vps business. They clearly don't want to compete anymore.

  • J1021J1021 Member

    nightshade said: I think sometime today.

    Thinking Choopa is wanting out of the vps business. They clearly don't want to compete anymore.

    They're spending millions revamping their product right now, improved locations and new hardware etc. They're still working to bring the storage product to more locations.

    You couldn't be more wrong.

  • nightshadenightshade Member
    edited May 2015

    I am sure they did the cpu drop to save money. Can't say I blame them but this was one of the main selling points that set Vultr apart from DigitalOcean. (Guessing this is vultr biggest completion) This is what finally got me to move my server off DO. If I was looking today I would pass up Vultr.

    You top that with what a 30%+ price increase on at least the lower end servers (before discounts) not a good way to revamp brand. Not sure how much the sata storage plans when up that happened a couple of weeks ago.

  • @nightshade - it may also be that they were using up bulk of old servers which were higher speed than the ones being used now.

  • AmitzAmitz Member
    edited May 2015

    @kcaj said:
    You couldn't be more wrong.

    With you hanging around all day together with DaveA in a semi-private IRC channel, it seems as no wonder that you are his private spokesman now.

  • trvztrvz Member

    @Amitz said:
    With you hanging around all day together with DaveA in a semi-private IRC channel, it seems as no wonder that you are his private spokeman now.

    Or is it semi-public?

  • AmitzAmitz Member

    @trvz said:

    Whatever you call it.

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