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[Request] VPS for Tor Relay

I'm looking for a VPS that can fulfill a Tor relay.

Ideally 384MB+ RAM and unmetered bandwidth, or a very large bandwidth cap for sub-$7/month.

I'm also open to suggestions of Tor relay hosts, and not just requests.

I already have relays with OVH and online.net so meh on that.

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  • Digital Ocean, unmetered for now.

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  • rm_rm_ Member
    edited March 2015

    linuxthefish said: Digital Ocean, unmetered for now.

    Yeah sure keep on recommending DO to everyone for Tor relays, maybe that'll teach them and make them speed up the work on b/w metering -- and ruin the good thing for everyone. You're not only a giant asshole yourself, you're encouraging others to join.

  • @linuxthefish said:
    Digital Ocean, unmetered for now.

    DO only 1TB free outgoing bandwidth.

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  • @dragon1993 said:
    DO only 1TB free outgoing bandwidth.

    He's meaning the fact that DO doesn't charge for bandwidth overages at the moment, though will in a few months. Its not viable for me though.

  • blackblack Member

    Waking up one day to a huge bandwidth overage bill would suck. Just saying.

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  • @rm_ said:
    Yeah sure keep on recommending DO to everyone for Tor relays, maybe that'll teach them and make them speed up the work on b/w metering -- and ruin the good thing for everyone. You're not only a giant asshole yourself, you're encouraging others to join.

    Paying $10 a month for 1GB ram, I don't think they will mind a few TB over...

    Anyway, for 10TB over it's only $20.

  • rm_rm_ Member

    linuxthefish said: Anyway, for 10TB over it's only $20.

    I am doing 26 TB/month for 1.99 EUR, but the OP already uses that provider.

  • blackblack Member

    rm_ said: I am doing 26 TB/month for 1.99 EUR, but the OP already uses that provider.

    Wtf? Mine pushes 1/3 of that.

  • rm_rm_ Member

    black said: Wtf? Mine pushes 1/3 of that.

    Your what? I didn't say it was Kidechire. :)

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  • @rm_ you did say 1.99 EUR/month though :)

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  • MaouniqueMaounique Member
    edited March 2015

    black said: Wtf? Mine pushes 1/3 of that.

    Mine does close to half, 11.9 last time i checked. Kidechire. But _rm hints it is not that :P
    @_rm care to share?
    Prometeus/Ipwerweb haas no issue with tor relays, except on biz plans. But traffic is limited, although generous.

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  • rm_rm_ Member

    Maounique said: 11.9 last time i checked

    In, out or both? I listed both, i.e. 13+13.

    Maounique said: care to share?

    There's not a lot of 1.99 EUR priced products across those two hosts.

  • well, one way, indeed, added up it is twice as much, but the useful data is only half, because the same passing bit is counted twice.

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  • Kidechire breakdown:

    eth0  /  monthly
    
           month        rx      |     tx      |    total    |   avg. rate
        ------------------------+-------------+-------------+---------------
          Aug '14     12.59 GiB |   92.67 GiB |  105.26 GiB |  329.67 kbit/s
          Sep '14    179.27 GiB |    4.08 TiB |    4.26 TiB |   14.11 Mbit/s
          Oct '14    444.21 GiB |   15.47 TiB |   15.91 TiB |   51.02 Mbit/s
          Nov '14    422.49 GiB |   14.60 TiB |   15.02 TiB |   49.77 Mbit/s
          Dec '14    272.31 GiB |    9.56 TiB |    9.82 TiB |   31.51 Mbit/s
          Jan '15     81.84 GiB |    2.19 TiB |    2.26 TiB |    7.26 Mbit/s
          Feb '15     33.23 GiB |  816.53 GiB |  849.77 GiB |    2.95 Mbit/s
          Mar '15     45.55 GiB |    1.56 TiB |    1.61 TiB |   44.97 Mbit/s
        ------------------------+-------------+-------------+---------------
        estimated    397.17 GiB |   13.64 TiB |   14.02 TiB |
    
  • This is the example of my vnstat monitoring from tunl.biz

    March 2015  1.28 TB 1.30 TB 2.58 TB
    February 2015   7.16 TB 7.38 TB 14.53 TB
    January 2015    8.73 TB 9.04 TB 17.77 TB
    December 2014   7.12 TB 7.36 TB 14.48 TB
    November 2014   5.10 TB 5.41 TB 10.51 TB
    October 2014    4.54 TB 4.69 TB 9.23 TB
    September 2014  962.97 GB   1014.44 GB  1.93 TB
    
  • @rm_ said:
    I am doing 26 TB/month for 1.99 EUR, but the OP already uses that provider.

    Me too, 29 TB last month with that 1.99/m product which I think anyone can guess.

  • @introducial said:
    Me too, 29 TB last month with that 1.99/m product which I think anyone can guess.

    OVH VPS for anyone wondering.

    Do they enforce the 10TB limit? Not sure how you guys would be able to push 20+ otherwise.

  • @Gunter said:
    Do they enforce the 10TB limit? Not sure how you guys would be able to push 20+ otherwise.

    No, they don't.

  • WilliamWilliam Member, Provider

    1,99 box here as well, uptime exactly 30 days:

    RX bytes:25818672367567 (25.8 TB) TX bytes:26280567874603 (26.2 TB)

  • rm_rm_ Member
    edited March 2015

    William said: RX bytes:25818672367567 (25.8 TB) TX bytes:26280567874603 (26.2 TB)

    Is that still with Tor, though? Don't see how you have enough CPU for that, if it is.

  • @ErawanArifNugroho said:
    This is the example of my vnstat monitoring from tunl.biz

    What provider are you using?

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  • 4n0nx4n0nx Member
    edited March 2015

    Check the "torpids" nodes on torstatus. I noticed they are all cheap VPS's with unmetered bandwidth.

    (((o(゚▽゚)o))) If privacy is outlawed, only outlaws will have privacy. (((o(゚▽゚)o)))

    ヽ(`Д´)ノ Everyone should run Tor on their idle servers.

  • WilliamWilliam Member, Provider

    rm_ said: Is that still with Tor, though? Don't see how you have enough CPU for that, if it is.

    Tor and I2P.

  • rm_rm_ Member

    William said: Tor and I2P.

    In my experience I2P barely uses any bandwidth, but a lot of CPU, so it would only add to the problem, not solve it. And the problem is, 99% CPU use at those numbers that I have (13+13). Share your secrets how do you get 26+26?

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  • trexostrexos Member
    edited March 2015

    How do you even get 13TX/13RX? My TOR relay has been running since 12.09.14 and I got 8.21 TiB (RX) and 8.50 TiB (TX) in february.

    OnePoundWebHosting.co.uk | UK XEN VPS from £2 | See their special offers starting from 12£/year here

  • DanDan Member

    @4n0nx Deepnet will kill your TOR process and throw you on FraudRecord FYI. i83 also kills any process with the letters tor in it.

  • trexostrexos Member
    edited March 2015

    Regarding i83:

    They do? When I used them a few months back I had no problem. But then suddenly they suspended my vps and failed to unlock it/give me more information in a appropriate manner so I simply canceled.

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  • 4n0nx4n0nx Member

    Dan said: Deepnet will kill your TOR process and throw you on FraudRecord FYI. i83 also kills any process with the letters tor in it.

    o.O I must have overlooked that back then when I read the AUP. It clearly states no Tor nodes now. I edited my post, thx.

    (((o(゚▽゚)o))) If privacy is outlawed, only outlaws will have privacy. (((o(゚▽゚)o)))

    ヽ(`Д´)ノ Everyone should run Tor on their idle servers.

  • blackblack Member
    edited March 2015

    I'm guessing all of you are using the padlock patch for the VIA processor right? How'd you get it working with tor?

  • @black No I'm not using it with the patch.

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  • blackblack Member

    Lame... I'm pushing 5 in / 5 out a month. William must be connected to the same switch as me or something :P

  • i win :)

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  • hostnoobhostnoob Member
    edited March 2015

    Why would you buy a VPS JUST for running TOR on it? If you have spare VPSes sure then I'd understand

    Favourite host in general: Ramnode (affiliate link)
    Favourite host for hourly billing/custom ISOs: Vultr ($50 free credit for new accounts, affiliate link)

  • @Dan And your exact point is? As far as i know both i83 and Deepnetsolutions do have notations in their TOS/AUP Stating that TOR is not allowed on their services.

    They are more then allowed to suspend the offending containers and list on Fraudrecord as the people running them would have been violating terms of service.

    I myself do the exact same thing, if people want to be fully anonymous.. Crank out the magazines, scissors and glue and paper and start writing ransom style notes. Providers can act on Violations.

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  • 4n0nx4n0nx Member

    AutoSnipe said: They are more then allowed to suspend the offending containers and list on Fraudrecord as the people running them would have been violating terms of service.

    I see no fraud in running a Tor node.

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    (((o(゚▽゚)o))) If privacy is outlawed, only outlaws will have privacy. (((o(゚▽゚)o)))

    ヽ(`Д´)ノ Everyone should run Tor on their idle servers.

  • gestiondbigestiondbi Member, Provider

    @Dan If you are the customer I think you are, we simply apply rules and laws, as states in the ticket we open to explain you the situation.

    Other customers have been affected by the change, but all come to discuss about the application more strictly of the rules and we found alternatives for them. Unfortunately, if we want to stay in business and be reliable, we need to respect laws. We get RCMP abuse notice of illegal traffic transiting on our nodes due to some TOR relay, then we need to act.

    Some people run TOR relay for fun or to support the cause, which in my opinion is a good thing. However, the traffic that those relay host isn't simply to be anonymous. We deal many time with authorities due to child porn, hacking, phishing, scamming, etc. that transit on those kind of anonymous relay.

    However, the only thing I want to say is, If you got suspended by a host, open a ticket and ask them what is happening and always stay polite. If the host isn't a scammer, he will help you to understand the situation and try to fix it with you...

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  • @Dan - @Davidgestiondbi has summed it up pretty well, and with the way NAT Works, it is a lot harder (in some cases) to find the user that has actually committed the offence. The fact that some IRC networks don't allow you to join if your IP is classed as a TOR Node in any way shape or form etc.

    So, there is the chance of Legal Issues (as william knows) Incovenience to others etc.

    That is why it is Prohibidato! ()

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  • MaouniqueMaounique Member
    edited March 2015

    davidgestiondbi said: We get RCMP abuse notice of illegal traffic transiting on our nodes due to some TOR relay, then we need to act.

    That is 100% BS. No relay will ever give you any abuse.
    Relay nodes are blocked by ISPs which cannot provide the traffic advertised (because a relay will use sooner or later all the allotted traffic) and use the CP complaints cool story as a cover-up.

    We never had any CP abuse report even when we did allow exit nodes (we still allow relays), it was the cc fraud against stupid ppl which have no idea how to block Tor that was piling up. CP abuse we have over the clear internet, people regularly put sites advertising it and landing then ransom threats.

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  • WilliamWilliam Member, Provider

    AutoSnipe said: So, there is the chance of Legal Issues (as william knows) Incovenience to others etc.

    Only exit. Relay is safe to run anywhere.

  • @William said:

    Im aware of the whole relay/exit differences etc. Its a lot easier to run it as a blanket ban rather then depicting what style to run In my opinion.

    As a lot of people just turn around and assume that since a relay is ok then an exit is as well. I find there is not many people that actually read AUP's. On a side note about Terms of service. Paypal's is horrible.. other day sent just over 1k to someone and bam instant account lock for 48 hours both mine and theirs for no reason.

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  • MaouniqueMaounique Member
    edited March 2015

    AutoSnipe said: As a lot of people just turn around and assume that since a relay is ok then an exit is as well

    That is another BS excuse providers who cannot afford the traffic advertised are making when the first (CP, terrorism abuse reports) BS is called.

    People running Tor know what they are doing in 99% of the cases, because it involves adding repos, editing configs, not the regular point and click stuff in windows and are also educated enough to know the difference it is making for their (and other people's) freedoms.

    AutoSnipe said: I find there is not many people that actually read AUP's

    Who does not read ToS/AUP will put an exit node anyway, so what was the purpose to ban it there (ToS/AUP) in the first place?

    No, you are either a provider which oversells traffic or someone that is not smart enough to see through propaganda and BS excuses.

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  • AutoSnipe said: other day sent just over 1k to someone and bam instant account lock for 48 hours both mine and theirs for no reason.

    Paypal probably thought you were being carded/are a carder.

  • I got mine limited for 500, it probably depends on residence country.

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  • @Maounique , it doesn't really matter what i say though you will always have an opinion to the other. and on that, it doesn't matter what any of us say, a provider has the right to disallow services running on their Servers.

    And the second point my answer would be is that you can turn around and say i see you read our terms of service, why were you intentionally doing X wrong?

    @Gunter , Not the first time i've spent over 1k to one person before.. First time that it was a registered business in Australia (where i'm from) so would have though they'd do it when i was buying Expensive things in Europe or USA. but no.. Just bam, no incoming no outgoing.. and they didn't take nicely to my phone calls every few hours going, i need it back on.. you have got confirmation I made a payment so.. fix it.

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  • Using tor supports the Islamic state

  • WilliamWilliam Member, Provider

    rm_ said: In my experience I2P barely uses any bandwidth, but a lot of CPU, so it would only add to the problem, not solve it. And the problem is, 99% CPU use at those numbers that I have (13+13). Share your secrets how do you get 26+26?

    Not sure, i run default configurations - Theres also an Nginx running but i doubt anyone abuses it (no logs until yesterday, so can't confirm for sure)

  • 13tb and 17tb on my 2 kide's, 104tb on my biggest relay.

  • MaouniqueMaounique Member
    edited March 2015

    AutoSnipe said: a provider has the right to disallow services running on their Servers

    That is correct, but making up CP/terrorism excuses to save their traffic is not correct. Or you could also allocate less traffic and Tor people will not sign up with you in the first place. If you allocate a lot of traffic and you cannot deliver, that is a bad business decision, dont blame Tor for it.

    AutoSnipe said: And the second point my answer would be is that you can turn around and say i see you read our terms of service, why were you intentionally doing X wrong?

    So, it is either they read it and they know exits are not allowed, or they do not read it and then it does not matter either way, but people running Tor are carefully reading the ToS/AUP before. You find exits, you terminate in any case, whether they read the ToS/AUP or not. Saying you do not allow relays because you are afraid people will not read and will run exits instead, is BS, simple as that.

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  • DanDan Member

    Lol @AutoSnipe, I've always been studious about fully reading and mirroring the TOS and AUP of each provider I use when it comes to the VPSes I use for tor relays, gotta be careful to not let groups like Deepnet Solutions or i83 scam ya when they change their TOS and you've got a yearly VPS.

    Running a Tor relay is as benign as it gets for processes you can run on a VPS, low quality providers ban it to cover up whatever hardware/bandwidth issue or software incompetence they have (like setting appropriate VM limits).

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  • @Dan in my case, i'm quite open about any hardware issues that i have. but that is not the reason why i personally don't allow TOR on my services.

    Most of my customers on the NAT IPv4 Plans use them for IRC bouncers etc. (or VPN's etc)
    But considering IP's branded as TOR IP's are banned from a large chunk of larger IRC networks, they cannot connect to the network. So, for one person running a Tor node, and having someone troll over the irc network. wrecks all other users connected to that ip address. (https://www.torproject.org/docs/faq-abuse.html.en#IrcBans)

    So, in my opinion. I'm looking after the other customers before the one person that could wreck the whole system for everyone else.

    I have more then enough bandwidth available to all my servers to run exit nodes etc (as most of my customers may remember me upgrading bandwidth here and there etc) but i choose to keep the majority of people happy that with their irc clients etc. rather then someone that could end up getting everyone booted. In my opinion, if it's a dedicated IPv4 VPS, then by all means Unless explicitly stated which forms of TOR are disallowed .. it should be ok to do so, but for Shared IP Servers. They should be completely locked out. If you don't see this as a reasonable explanation for all of us (myself, deepnet, i83, inception and ransomit) then i don't know what would please you in this.

    Regards,
    Ryan B

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