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online.net Dedibox® MD 2015 OR server dedibox limited edition 201420 DELL

ZweiTigerZweiTiger Member
edited February 2015 in Help

Hello,

Which one configuration is better? (for webhosting)

This?
http://www.online.net/en/dedicated-server/dedibox-md (2x2TB SATA)

OR
https://console.online.net/en/order/server_limited

Poll
  1. Whats better for webhosting?27 votes
    1. Dedibox® MD 2015 (2x2TB - RAID 1)
        0.00%
    2. Dedibox® MD 2015 (2x500GB SSD - RAID 0 with r1soft CDP)
      11.11%
    3. Dedibox® MD 2015 (2x500GB SSD - RAID 1)
      62.96%
    4. server dedibox limited edition 201420 DELL (2x2TB RAID 1)
      25.93%

Comments

  • Depend on for what?. For VPS, better select 'limited edition 201420'.

  • @mustafaramadhan said:
    Depend on for what?. For VPS, better select 'limited edition 201420'.

    Which one configuration is better? (for webhosting)

    :)

  • 0xdragon0xdragon Member
    edited February 2015

    I'd go for the HP for sure. It has a better CPU passmark score.

  • dedibox MD 2015 SSD (2 x 500 SSD).

  • @mustafaramadhan said:
    dedibox MD 2015 SSD (2 x 500 SSD).

    Well yes. Thats the other way. I think raid 0 with r1soft to backup everything... And i should be fine.

  • I would go for dedibox limited edition 201420 DELL due to better benchmark score.

  • @ZweiTiger said:
    Well yes. Thats the other way. I think raid 0 with r1soft to backup everything... And i should be fine.

    RAID0 (strip) or RAID1 (mirror)?.

  • IMHO.

    their HP server better than Dell server. Two different server, one with cache and the other one without.

    HP server
    ------------------------------------
    
    root@sd-xxxxx:~# fio --name=global --rw=randread --size=128m --name=job1 --name=job2
    job1: (g=0): rw=randread, bs=4K-4K/4K-4K, ioengine=sync, iodepth=1
    job2: (g=0): rw=randread, bs=4K-4K/4K-4K, ioengine=sync, iodepth=1
    2.0.8
    Starting 2 processes
    job1: Laying out IO file(s) (1 file(s) / 128MB)
    job2: Laying out IO file(s) (1 file(s) / 128MB)
    Jobs: 1 (f=1): [r_] [98.5% done] [2828K/0K /s] [707 /0  iops] [eta 00m:01s] 
    job1: (groupid=0, jobs=1): err= 0: pid=898201
      read : io=131072KB, bw=2028.1KB/s, iops=507 , runt= 64602msec
        clat (usec): min=162 , max=264549 , avg=1967.95, stdev=3763.96
         lat (usec): min=162 , max=264549 , avg=1968.18, stdev=3763.96
        clat percentiles (usec):
         |  1.00th=[  169],  5.00th=[  177], 10.00th=[  179], 20.00th=[  183],
         | 30.00th=[  187], 40.00th=[  191], 50.00th=[  201], 60.00th=[  217],
         | 70.00th=[ 1624], 80.00th=[ 4448], 90.00th=[ 7200], 95.00th=[ 8640],
         | 99.00th=[ 9920], 99.50th=[11968], 99.90th=[23680], 99.95th=[26752],
         | 99.99th=[81408]
        bw (KB/s)  : min=   48, max= 3432, per=49.54%, avg=2009.95, stdev=516.79
        lat (usec) : 250=66.18%, 500=2.91%, 750=0.10%, 1000=0.12%
        lat (msec) : 2=1.92%, 4=7.15%, 10=20.82%, 20=0.60%, 50=0.19%
        lat (msec) : 100=0.01%, 250=0.01%, 500=0.01%
      cpu          : usr=0.29%, sys=1.00%, ctx=32776, majf=0, minf=24
      IO depths    : 1=100.0%, 2=0.0%, 4=0.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
         submit    : 0=0.0%, 4=100.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, 64=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
         complete  : 0=0.0%, 4=100.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, 64=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
         issued    : total=r=32768/w=0/d=0, short=r=0/w=0/d=0
    job2: (groupid=0, jobs=1): err= 0: pid=898202
      read : io=131072KB, bw=28832KB/s, iops=7208 , runt=  4546msec
        clat (usec): min=36 , max=367709 , avg=136.11, stdev=2582.09
         lat (usec): min=36 , max=367709 , avg=136.28, stdev=2582.09
        clat percentiles (usec):
         |  1.00th=[   38],  5.00th=[   42], 10.00th=[   43], 20.00th=[   47],
         | 30.00th=[   47], 40.00th=[   48], 50.00th=[   49], 60.00th=[   53],
         | 70.00th=[   57], 80.00th=[   64], 90.00th=[  181], 95.00th=[  187],
         | 99.00th=[  310], 99.50th=[ 4256], 99.90th=[ 8896], 99.95th=[ 9664],
         | 99.99th=[23936]
        bw (KB/s)  : min=  144, max=47120, per=100.00%, avg=30198.63, stdev=16998.34
        lat (usec) : 50=52.23%, 100=30.99%, 250=15.43%, 500=0.55%, 750=0.02%
        lat (usec) : 1000=0.03%
        lat (msec) : 2=0.08%, 4=0.15%, 10=0.48%, 20=0.02%, 50=0.01%
        lat (msec) : 250=0.01%, 500=0.01%
      cpu          : usr=3.65%, sys=9.97%, ctx=32775, majf=0, minf=25
      IO depths    : 1=100.0%, 2=0.0%, 4=0.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
         submit    : 0=0.0%, 4=100.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, 64=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
         complete  : 0=0.0%, 4=100.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, 64=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
         issued    : total=r=32768/w=0/d=0, short=r=0/w=0/d=0
    
    Run status group 0 (all jobs):
       READ: io=262144KB, aggrb=4057KB/s, minb=2028KB/s, maxb=28832KB/s, mint=4546msec, maxt=64602msec
    
    Disk stats (read/write):
        dm-0: ios=65536/527, merge=0/0, ticks=67941/253, in_queue=68212, util=98.78%, aggrios=65540/479, aggrmerge=0/48, aggrticks=67932/237, aggrin_queue=68139, aggrutil=98.70%
      sda: ios=65540/479, merge=0/48, ticks=67932/237, in_queue=68139, util=98.70%
    root@sd-xxxxx:~# 
    
    
    -----------------------------------SNIP---------
    
    Dell server
    
    ---------------------------------------------------
    root@sd-xxxxx:~# fio --name=global --rw=randread --size=128m --name=job1 --name=job2
    job1: (g=0): rw=randread, bs=4K-4K/4K-4K, ioengine=sync, iodepth=1
    job2: (g=0): rw=randread, bs=4K-4K/4K-4K, ioengine=sync, iodepth=1
    2.0.8
    Starting 2 processes
    job1: Laying out IO file(s) (1 file(s) / 128MB)
    job2: Laying out IO file(s) (1 file(s) / 128MB)
    Jobs: 1 (f=1): [r_] [100.0% done] [2784K/0K /s] [696 /0  iops] [eta 00m:00s]
    job1: (groupid=0, jobs=1): err= 0: pid=8743
      read : io=131072KB, bw=780149 B/s, iops=190 , runt=172041msec
        clat (usec): min=64 , max=51068 , avg=5246.77, stdev=4933.16
         lat (usec): min=64 , max=51068 , avg=5247.00, stdev=4933.16
        clat percentiles (usec):
         |  1.00th=[   71],  5.00th=[   83], 10.00th=[  120], 20.00th=[  326],
         | 30.00th=[ 1832], 40.00th=[ 3184], 50.00th=[ 4512], 60.00th=[ 5792],
         | 70.00th=[ 7072], 80.00th=[ 8384], 90.00th=[11328], 95.00th=[15552],
         | 99.00th=[22144], 99.50th=[24960], 99.90th=[31104], 99.95th=[34048],
         | 99.99th=[42752]
        bw (KB/s)  : min=  518, max= 1261, per=49.60%, avg=755.41, stdev=82.06
        lat (usec) : 100=8.22%, 250=11.68%, 500=0.65%, 750=3.67%, 1000=0.53%
        lat (msec) : 2=6.47%, 4=14.99%, 10=42.15%, 20=10.18%, 50=1.44%
        lat (msec) : 100=0.01%
      cpu          : usr=0.14%, sys=0.35%, ctx=32795, majf=0, minf=24
      IO depths    : 1=100.0%, 2=0.0%, 4=0.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
         submit    : 0=0.0%, 4=100.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, 64=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
         complete  : 0=0.0%, 4=100.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, 64=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
         issued    : total=r=32768/w=0/d=0, short=r=0/w=0/d=0
    job2: (groupid=0, jobs=1): err= 0: pid=8744
      read : io=131072KB, bw=781471 B/s, iops=190 , runt=171750msec
        clat (usec): min=64 , max=52285 , avg=5237.88, stdev=4935.81
         lat (usec): min=64 , max=52285 , avg=5238.11, stdev=4935.81
        clat percentiles (usec):
         |  1.00th=[   70],  5.00th=[   78], 10.00th=[  115], 20.00th=[  462],
         | 30.00th=[ 1816], 40.00th=[ 3120], 50.00th=[ 4448], 60.00th=[ 5792],
         | 70.00th=[ 7072], 80.00th=[ 8384], 90.00th=[11328], 95.00th=[15424],
         | 99.00th=[22400], 99.50th=[25216], 99.90th=[31360], 99.95th=[33536],
         | 99.99th=[41216]
        bw (KB/s)  : min=  550, max= 1550, per=49.98%, avg=761.23, stdev=103.57
        lat (usec) : 100=8.38%, 250=11.24%, 500=0.76%, 750=3.85%, 1000=0.52%
        lat (msec) : 2=6.58%, 4=15.29%, 10=41.76%, 20=10.15%, 50=1.46%
        lat (msec) : 100=0.01%
      cpu          : usr=0.14%, sys=0.35%, ctx=32794, majf=0, minf=25
      IO depths    : 1=100.0%, 2=0.0%, 4=0.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
         submit    : 0=0.0%, 4=100.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, 64=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
         complete  : 0=0.0%, 4=100.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, 64=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
         issued    : total=r=32768/w=0/d=0, short=r=0/w=0/d=0
    
    Run status group 0 (all jobs):
       READ: io=262144KB, aggrb=1523KB/s, minb=761KB/s, maxb=763KB/s, mint=171750msec, maxt=172041msec
    
    Disk stats (read/write):
        dm-0: ios=65368/35, merge=0/0, ticks=341828/11880, in_queue=353708, util=100.00%, aggrios=65536/24, aggrmerge=0/11, aggrticks=341878/7111, aggrin_queue=348970, aggrutil=100.00%
      sda: ios=65536/24, merge=0/11, ticks=341878/7111, in_queue=348970, util=100.00%
    root@sd-xxxxx:~# 
    --------------------------------------------------
    
    IOPS TEST RESULTS:
    
    - HP server:
    job 1: iops=507 
    Job 2: iops=7208
    
    - Dell server
    job 1: iops=190 
    Job 2: iops=190 
    

    Latency Disk Test

    HP server
    
    ------------------------
    root@sd-xxxxx:~# bash ioping.sh 
    
    Sequential disk speed test (dd)
    ===============================
    16384+0 records in
    16384+0 records out
    1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB) copied, 7.41662 s, 145 MB/s
    
    Disk latency tests (ioping)
    ===========================
    Test                                req       ms   iops   mb/s    min    avg    max   mdev 
    Disk I/O rate (1024KB)                5   4006.2    935  934.8    1.1    1.1    1.1    0.0 
    Disk I/O rate (4KB)                   5   4000.9   9785   38.2    0.1    0.1    0.1    0.0 
    Disk I/O rate (32KB)                  5   4001.2   6258  195.6    0.1    0.2    0.2    0.0 
    Disk I/O rate (64KB)                  5   4001.4   5203  325.2    0.2    0.2    0.2    0.0 
    Disk I/O rate (256KB)                 5   4002.5   2558  639.4    0.4    0.4    0.4    0.0 
    Seek rate (1024KB)                 2591   3000.5    992  992.1    0.9    1.0    1.4    0.0 
    Seek rate (4KB)                   27654   3000.0  20001   78.1    0.0    0.0    0.3    0.0 
    Seek rate (32KB)                  20297   3000.0  11564  361.4    0.1    0.1    0.4    0.0 
    Seek rate (64KB)                  15861   3000.1   8131  508.2    0.1    0.1    6.6    0.1 
    Seek rate (256KB)                  7024   3000.1   2936  734.0    0.3    0.3    3.8    0.0 
    Sequential seek rate               6959   3000.1   2914  728.4    0.3    0.3    0.9    0.0 
    Sequential cached seek rate       29657   3000.0  21465 5366.2    0.0    0.0    0.4    0.0 
    
    root@sd-xxxxx:~# 
    root@sd-xxxxx:~# ioping / -c 10
    4096 bytes from / (ext4 /dev/mapper/system-root): request=1 time=0.1 ms
    4096 bytes from / (ext4 /dev/mapper/system-root): request=2 time=0.2 ms
    4096 bytes from / (ext4 /dev/mapper/system-root): request=3 time=0.1 ms
    4096 bytes from / (ext4 /dev/mapper/system-root): request=4 time=0.1 ms
    4096 bytes from / (ext4 /dev/mapper/system-root): request=5 time=0.1 ms
    4096 bytes from / (ext4 /dev/mapper/system-root): request=6 time=0.1 ms
    4096 bytes from / (ext4 /dev/mapper/system-root): request=7 time=0.1 ms
    4096 bytes from / (ext4 /dev/mapper/system-root): request=8 time=0.1 ms
    4096 bytes from / (ext4 /dev/mapper/system-root): request=9 time=0.2 ms
    4096 bytes from / (ext4 /dev/mapper/system-root): request=10 time=0.1 ms
    
    --- / (ext4 /dev/mapper/system-root) ioping statistics ---
    10 requests completed in 9002.1 ms, 7955 iops, 31.1 mb/s
    min/avg/max/mdev = 0.1/0.1/0.2/0.0 ms
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    
    DELL server
    
    ----------------------
    
    root@sd-xxxxx:~# bash ioping.sh 
    
    Sequential disk speed test (dd)
    ===============================
    16384+0 records in
    16384+0 records out
    1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB) copied, 6.77114 s, 159 MB/s
    
    Disk latency tests (ioping)
    ===========================
    Test                                req       ms   iops   mb/s    min    avg    max   mdev 
    Disk I/O rate (1024KB)                5   4024.8    210  210.0    1.7    4.8   16.7    6.0 
    Disk I/O rate (4KB)                   5   4030.0    169    0.7    0.1    5.9   15.5    7.1 
    Disk I/O rate (32KB)                  5   4030.7    166    5.2    0.2    6.0   14.9    7.1 
    Disk I/O rate (64KB)                  5   4032.9    155    9.7    0.3    6.5   14.2    5.5 
    Disk I/O rate (256KB)                 5   4019.0    272   68.0    0.8    3.7   15.2    5.7 
    Seek rate (1024KB)                  846   3003.0    291  291.2    1.7    3.4   19.9    3.7 
    Seek rate (4KB)                    4530   3000.0   1644    6.4    0.1    0.6   41.5    2.1 
    Seek rate (32KB)                   3160   3003.4   1118   35.0    0.1    0.9   25.8    2.6 
    Seek rate (64KB)                   3139   3015.2   1108   69.2    0.2    0.9  122.0    3.4 
    Seek rate (256KB)                  2182   3000.2    764  191.0    0.7    1.3   18.1    2.4 
    Sequential seek rate               2025   3001.1    707  176.7    0.7    1.4   36.9    1.6 
    Sequential cached seek rate       34779   3000.0  29676 7419.0    0.0    0.0    0.1    0.0 
    
    root@sd-xxxxx:~# ioping / -c 10
    4096 bytes from / (ext4 /dev/mapper/system-root): request=1 time=15.2 ms
    4096 bytes from / (ext4 /dev/mapper/system-root): request=2 time=0.2 ms
    4096 bytes from / (ext4 /dev/mapper/system-root): request=3 time=0.2 ms
    4096 bytes from / (ext4 /dev/mapper/system-root): request=4 time=0.1 ms
    4096 bytes from / (ext4 /dev/mapper/system-root): request=5 time=14.3 ms
    4096 bytes from / (ext4 /dev/mapper/system-root): request=6 time=0.2 ms
    4096 bytes from / (ext4 /dev/mapper/system-root): request=7 time=0.2 ms
    4096 bytes from / (ext4 /dev/mapper/system-root): request=8 time=0.2 ms
    4096 bytes from / (ext4 /dev/mapper/system-root): request=9 time=0.2 ms
    4096 bytes from / (ext4 /dev/mapper/system-root): request=10 time=0.1 ms
    
    --- / (ext4 /dev/mapper/system-root) ioping statistics ---
    10 requests completed in 9031.9 ms, 324 iops, 1.3 mb/s
    min/avg/max/mdev = 0.1/3.1/15.2/5.8 ms
    root@sd-xxxxx:~# 
    
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
  • so better choose "server dedibox limited edition 201420 HP" :)

  • I'd take the 2x500 SSD RAID1 box, specially since that H310 controller is a piece of shit (assuming they use it on those 2x2TB servers). :)

  • wychwych Member
    edited February 2015

    I'd go for 500gb SSD in RAID1 too, if space isn't a primary concern.

  • frankfrank Member
    edited February 2015

    @emilv said:
    I'd take the 2x500 SSD RAID1 box, specially since that H310 controller is a piece of shit (assuming they use it on those 2x2TB servers). :)

    The HP ones doesn't. But the 2x500 that you are recommending does :P

    Really the HP one is the better bet if you need the CPU power.

  • Well If you don't need more storage, you should go for SSD for greater I/O and performance.

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