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Any other providers accept Payza?

DamianDamian Member
edited July 2012 in Providers

Ever since it switched from AlertPay to Payza, we've been having our funds get put on hold, sometimes for DAYS.

Any other providers experiencing this?

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  • AlexBarakovAlexBarakov Member, Provider

    I have blocked AP/Payza payments for months now... I was planning on starting to accept it again, however I heard that they limit accounts randomly, put on hold for days, even weeks, problems with witdrawing funds and etc. I see you have problems with them as well, which tends to removing it as payment option completly on my side..

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  • TazTaz Disabled

    Same here. A minimum 16 days hold is utter crap. I am going to ditch em if they don't fix their act in 2 mo.

    Time is good and also bad. Life is short and that is sad. Dont worry be happy thats my style. No matter what happens i won't lose my smile!

  • DanielMDanielM Disabled

    @NinjaHawk said: Same here. A minimum 16 days hold is utter crap. I am going to ditch em if they don't fix their act in 2 mo.

    And the 21 days with paypal is much better?

    I can remember once selling a mobile phone on ebay for around £160ish ($250) and they wanted me to send the phone and wait for 21 days to receive the cash. No protection for seller at all..

  • DamianDamian Member

    @DanielM: The difference between Paypal and Payza is that Paypal at least "approves" the funds and then lets our payment process continue. Payza stagnates on "On Hold" for weeks, which prevents people from getting their services set up automatically.

  • TazTaz Disabled

    @DanielM
    Once you verify your account and build up reputation, it is less the 7business day.

    Time is good and also bad. Life is short and that is sad. Dont worry be happy thats my style. No matter what happens i won't lose my smile!

  • WilliamWilliam Member, Provider
    edited July 2012

    @DanielM said: And the 21 days with paypal is much better?

    Wut? No such thing in Europe.
    We usualy pay out PayPal all 2 days and it always takes only 1 day to be paid out - no matter when the payments arrived.

  • DanielMDanielM Disabled

    @William said: Wut? No such thing in Europe.

    Well. Am based in UK as you know and ive had this specific account for some time. SO maybe just me/ but googling this topic shows its a frequent thing.

  • miTgiBmiTgiB Member

    I must be the odd man out, I have never had trouble with Payza/AlertPay, and I just request a check each month around the 15th, in my hands before the end of the month. I did verify my business years ago, and never seen a hold on funds for over 7 days when the end user pays by credit card, if they pay from balance, no hold.

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  • DamianDamian Member

    @miTgiB said: I did verify my business years ago,

    Hmm, we were verified with Alertpay, but not sure if that status got cancelled in the transition to Payza for some reason. I'll have to look into it

  • rds100rds100 Member

    We stopped accepting it some time ago (hidden in from the payment options). I consider alertpay/payza pretty much dead at this time. If they ever come back to life we might start accepting their payments again, but until then...

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  • JacobJacob Member

    I don't get much through Payza, But through liberty reserve which I do when I hit the $200 mark, hopefully they will not hold the money from the exchanger for 16 Days, I think it is only for payments via API.

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  • PhilNDPhilND Member

    Payza holds all our transactions.... been using them for years as a business verified.

    Really starting to do my head in now.

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  • qpsqps Member, Provider

    We've turned off Payza payments for the moment. They have been placing holds on our funds for seemingly no reason. I opened a ticket to ask why, and they still have not responded (opened the ticket on July 3).

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  • Hello,

    >

    This is a brief note to let you know that IPXcore is no longer accepting Payza as a >payment method. Ever since Alertpay became Payza, we have had our funds helds for >weeks at a time, which will not work for our business plan.

    >

    Additionally, we are now accepting credit cards through Stripe.

    >

    Thank you,
    Damian Harouff
    IPXcore

    Oops! Payza going down as RIM.

  • qpsqps Member, Provider

    We finally got our check from payments we received in June. Very disappointing that it took so long.

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  • KishKish Member

    If your chargeback rate on Payza is low or none you can ask them to review your account and the frozen time will be removed / decreased.

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  • What chargeback rate? Does payza work with credit cards now?

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  • I'm not sure why I need to ask them to stop treating us like criminals when we have yet to prove that we've done anything wrong. So away they went.

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  • AlexBarakovAlexBarakov Member, Provider

    I recently re-enabled it and so far no problems with held transactions.

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  • KishKish Member

    @rds100 Yes, you can add money to your Payza account using credit card with 0% fee so add $100 and you get $100. I presume it's a way to regain it's lost customers

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  • @Kish said: I presume it's a way to regain it's lost customers

    Now what will they do to regain their lost merchants? It's quickly becoming as useful as American Express, nobody will accept either.

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  • KishKish Member

    @miTgiB no idea either way they are still making grands with there high fees and people who invest in "HYIP" sites Payza is a primary source of revenue

  • @miTgiB I pay invoices via AP so the 0% fee is good for merchants aswell, I don't mind the 21 day holding time.

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  • CoreyCorey Member, Provider

    but is payza better than 2co?

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  • AlexBarakovAlexBarakov Member, Provider

    @Jack what do you expect to happen when a chargeback occurs? The only downside of 2co is the high fees.

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  • AlexBarakovAlexBarakov Member, Provider

    Well, I have used 2co for over 8 months and had 3 chargebacks in total. I desided to be a dick and fought one of it and actually won it. It is not 2co's fault, I am absolutely sure. If a credit card reverse is issued, they have nothing to do.

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  • @Jack said: Use 2checkout for 2 months , get 3 chargebacks...

    Are you speeding in reverse? From .net to .co, from paypal to 2co? This is like a cook book for how not to do things.

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  • CoreyCorey Member, Provider

    @Zen 2CO can accept paypal?..... does 2CO take the prepaid visa cards?

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  • I hated 2CO, they terminated our account with $400 in it because of too many chargebacks.

  • CoreyCorey Member, Provider

    @Zen is that a chargeback lost % vs chargeback won % ?

    What are the advantages of using 2CO to accept paypal rather than using straight up paypal? Doesn't paypal charge a lower fee?

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  • AlexBarakovAlexBarakov Member, Provider

    @Corey said: What are the advantages of using 2CO to accept paypal rather than using straight up paypal? Doesn't paypal charge a lower fee?

    Yup, much lower.

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  • CoreyCorey Member, Provider

    @Zen I've had friends that got screwed over... and even myself selling on ebay with paypal.....

    BUT

    The only reason we were thinking of implementing 2CO is for cards and areas that paypal and google checkout decline.

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  • In my personal experience it is not worth it, 5 / 5 chargebacks I have countered never won one.

    @Zen said: I'm willing to bet you didn't even fight the chargeback either.

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  • AlexBarakovAlexBarakov Member, Provider

    @Corey said: The only reason we were thinking of implementing 2CO is for cards and areas that paypal and google checkout decline.

    You can safely do it. 2CO is my main gateway for 8 months now and had nothing but good experience with the, so far. And their support reps are much, much friendlier than PayPal.

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  • AlexBarakovAlexBarakov Member, Provider

    @Jacob said: In my personal experience it is not worth it, 5 / 5 chargebacks I have countered never won one.

    Jacob, it depends. I have countered 1 and won it. I had 3 so far for my 8 months with 2co.

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  • me but it seems not very popular O.o

    last order was from @Jack LOL

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  • @Jack said: Basically

    That is one long story of when it rains, it pours :(

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  • @Jack You should of used your .co.uk tld.

    I know, I'm Dale Maily.

  • akbakb Member

    I like 2CO. Been using them for 3-4 years now. Their fees is on the higher side amongst 3rd party payment processors but I like the efficiency of their "Fraud Review" department. They stop 95% of the fraudulent CC payments protecting me from the risk of chargebacks. No need to use maxmind etc. They do that job for me just fine.

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