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Where we should host our site? Which company will be the best?

programerprogramer Member
edited October 2014 in General

We are operating a scientific journal site which have users from Africa, Europe, Asia with little user base from USA. We are presently hosted with digital ocean Singapore DC, it serves nicely to India, and certain parts of Asia but not to farther places, users face problems in downloading speed and site loading speed. The main problem we face is the download speed which is required while downloading the pdf file ( each file will be of at least 3-5 MB size) is not available if we go for low cost over sold VPS. We are thinking of moving our site to a new provider who provide good download speed. Also we are searching the company with few things in mind which is mentioned below

1) We are not so learned concerned with Linux, but we do have experience in handling a VPS with or without control panel, have less time to sit and learn Linux stuff but forced to manage the VPS.
2) We love the snapshot feature of DO, this is not available with other providers, will it be better if we chose another DC of DO itself and move the data there? Will Amsterdam serve its purpose?
3) Is there any companies who can provide a VPS with good download speed at affordable cost, we are ready to spend but we dont want to go for a VPS which will be overkill. Our sites will take less than 200 MB RAM, 2-5 GB bandwidth per day in average, CPU load on a 2.5GHZ CPU is never above 0.4.
4) Support should be fast enough.
5) Our budget is $5-$15 per VPS, we can spend more but we feel that its not required owing to the reason that our sites does not even use a database and they are simple html+pdf sites.
6) We think of Vultr.com but their Terms of Service is so rigid which we are apprehensive of with our novice knowledge related to Linux server management.
7) We tried Linode for a while it works nicely but the snap shot feature is charged at a high rate, in DO its free till date
8) We dont want control panel for the server, we are highly comfortable with VestaCP and it does the things we need.

Requesting users to give us suggestions on company we can try, datacenter location we should try, technology we should try ( Openvz, KVM etc), expectation are high.

Comments

  • Maybe try to serve your content via CDN, and serve your sites pages with the same DO Singapore VPS.

  • Cost factor will come into play if we use CDN also integrating CDN is becoming a big task if you dont use CMS based website, is there any CDN which can be integrated without a CMS? Also why another payment to be done to CDN companies if we can pay it directly to a server company......

  • hostnoobhostnoob Member
    edited October 2014

    Use Cloudflare's free CDN?

    Also Vultr has a snapshot feature.

  • programerprogramer Member
    edited October 2014

    Cloudflare - Most of the time its terribly slow, we used its free future, never tried paid version. Is Vultr having the snapshot feature? Is it in beta? If its there surely we have to give a try...

  • Check out our InfraCloud service: http://www.quadranet.com/cloud/
    QuadraNet's InfraCloud is powered by KVM.

  • @programer said:
    is there any CDN which can be integrated without a CMS?

    Actually, any CDN can be integrated without a CMS or plugins if you use PageSpeed mod on Apache or Nginx. Some examples can be found - https://developers.google.com/speed/pagespeed/module/domains

  • @razibhasan said:
    Actually, any CDN can be integrated without a CMS or plugins if you use PageSpeed mod on Apache or Nginx. Some examples can be found - https://developers.google.com/speed/pagespeed/module/domains

    Understand but we are not so inclined towards using CDN as of now owing to unavailability of technical resources and manpower

  • You should probably go with a West-Coast location like Vegas, good connectivity to almost every place of the world.

    LV to EU ~150ms
    LV to USA ~ 5-50ms
    LV to Africa ~300ms
    LV to Asia ~150ms

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  • Try IWStack

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  • NyrNyr Community Contributor, Veteran

    If you want to set up a single server, you need to choose between bad connection to Asia (hosting in Europe, preferably the UK since you want to serve both the US and Africa) or bad connection to Africa (hosting in the US). Sorry but you can't have all of them covered.

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  • @programer said:
    Also why another payment to be done to CDN companies if we can pay it directly to a server company......

    By using a CDN provider you avoid the location problem Nyr just mentioned without having to pay for and configure multiple servers yourself. And just as he said, you can't cover all of them with a single server and still get acceptable latency everywhere.

  • If we host somewhere near Amsterdam or London will it cover this regions properly? We are getting good ping and download speed from Amsterdam servers. CDN technology- Surely we will give a try, which CDN will be cheap and best, we dont want too cheap but a better service at optimised tariff will do.
    @tr1cky Which company is offering vps at that region?
    @Nyr We are getting good connection from few companies like Digital ocean Amsterdam servers.

  • @programer said:
    If we host somewhere near Amsterdam or London will it cover this regions properly? We are getting good ping and download speed from Amsterdam servers. CDN technology- Surely we will give a try, which CDN will be cheap and best, we dont want too cheap but a better service at optimised tariff will do.
    tr1cky Which company is offering vps at that region?
    Nyr We are getting good connection from few companies like Digital ocean Amsterdam servers.

    CDN traffic will run you $40 - $50 per TB, minimum. I don't know what your budget or usage is, but for smaller sites, that can rack up pretty quickly.

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  • @Steven_F said:
    CDN traffic will run you $40 - $50 per TB, minimum. I don't know what your budget or usage is, but for smaller sites, that can rack up pretty quickly.

    Hello to reach 1 TB bandwidth it will take nearly 6-8 months for us and this cost will never be a problem for us, we can comfortably go for it, we even checked yesterday with Cartika CDN whose integration seems to be effective.

  • NyrNyr Community Contributor, Veteran

    programer said: @Nyr We are getting good connection from few companies like Digital ocean Amsterdam servers.

    I suggested the UK since many of the African traffic is backhauled there, but Amsterdam is nearly the same for your points of interest and could be cheaper too, so I would go for it.

  • FaiziFaizi Member
    edited October 2014

    Since the website is static, here is what I would do to cut cost.

    Option 1:
    Register with Amazon AWS, Utilize their free tier offer for 1 year. Upload the files to Amazon S3, and serve them with Amazon Cloudfront.

    or

    Option 2:
    Setup three USD5 droplets with Digital Ocean, in New York, Amsterdam and Singapore, sync them daily, or in realtime. Create an additional page to give the user an option to choose between the servers for download. Or use Amazon Route 53 DNS with latency based routing/GeoDNS.

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  • @Faizi said:

    Option 1:
    Register with Amazon AWS, Utilize their free tier offer for 1 year. Upload the files to Amazon S3, and serve them with Amazon Cloudfront.

    Setup three USD5 droplets with Digital Ocean, in New York, Amsterdam and Singapore, sync them daily, or in realtime. Create an additional page to give the user an option to choose between the servers for download. Or use Amazon Route 53 DNS with latency based routing/GeoDNS.

    Paying for servers is not a problem if its a viable solution, but Amazon does not seems to serve its purpose, either its too costly for its service rendered. But surely we will give a shot, our server management person is informed about this option to check now.

    Concerned with Option 2 how to sync the three servers realtime?

  • The only way I know is with rsync and cronjob. Although not quite 'in realtime', a lower interval will suffice since it's a static site.

  • off-topic: can you change your signature to make it less bold? Its really making my eyes cry for help.

  • @GIANT_CRAB said:
    off-topic: can you change your signature to make it less bold? Its really making my eyes cry for help.

    Changed.. :)

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  • We are now partnering with a data center in Sofia, Bulgaria which is 300km North of the Mediterenian and has a direct fiber cable to Athens, Greece and is directly connected to an Asia backbone with a fiber going directly to Istanbul and Asia afterwards.
    The Sofia data center is perfect for Africa, Middle East, and the near parts of Asia, while being under EU regulations, thus safe and secure. You might want to give it a try if you are going with a single server.

  • NyrNyr Community Contributor, Veteran
    edited October 2014

    @iClickAndHost said:
    We are now partnering with a data center in Sofia, Bulgaria which is 300km North of the Mediterenian and has a direct fiber cable to Athens, Greece and is directly connected to an Asia backbone with a fiber going directly to Istanbul and Asia afterwards.
    The Sofia data center is perfect for Africa, Middle East, and the near parts of Asia, while being under EU regulations, thus safe and secure. You might want to give it a try if you are going with a single server.
    @iClickAndHost said:
    We are now partnering with a data center in Sofia, Bulgaria which is 300km North of the Mediterenian and has a direct fiber cable to Athens, Greece and is directly connected to an Asia backbone with a fiber going directly to Istanbul and Asia afterwards.
    The Sofia data center is perfect for Africa, Middle East, and the near parts of Asia, while being under EU regulations, thus safe and secure. You might want to give it a try if you are going with a single server.

    You could publish a test IP so he can check some routes around the world.

  • @Nyr said:
    You could publish a test IP so he can check some routes around the world.

    Sorry, we don't have a public test IP available at this location at the moment and i wouldn't test from an IP assigned to a customer or publish the IP of a web server where we host customer accounts in the sake of their privacy and reliability.

  • How about OVH CDN?

  • NyrNyr Community Contributor, Veteran

    @iClickAndHost said:
    Sorry, we don't have a public test IP available at this location at the moment and i wouldn't test from an IP assigned to a customer or publish the IP of a web server where we host customer accounts in the sake of their privacy and reliability.

    And you can't simply post the name of the upstream, is it a secret? Doesn't your upstream have public IPs on any of their routers so we can trace?

  • iClickAndHostiClickAndHost Member
    edited October 2014

    Hi, \

    Yes, that can work :)

    You can test with a download from http://mirror.telepoint.bg/

    That's a fileserver in the datacenter.

    Tracert / ping you can test to : 79.124.67.90 but again - that's not our server, it's the above file server in another room of the data center.

    We can also do it the other way around - give me a few IPs to tracert and MRT from a staging server we are just deploying.

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