Storage/Backup VPS

rsk

Hello guys,

Im just wondering on the current demand for high storage VPS's, talking about 150GB upto several TB's, and within budget pricing ofcourse.

What would you go for, specs wise, if you want a high storage vps?

Regards

jcaleb

backup? I guess only bandwidth and storage are the important factors.

joepie91

As absolute requirements for a storage VPS, I would have: * Custom software allowed (I use Tahoe-LAFS for my storage grid, for example) * At least 256MB of RAM, 384-512MB if OpenVZ+burst (due to Tahoe-LAFS and it being Python) * Either unmetered traffic with low bandwidth (say, 20mbit) - or, preferably, burstable to at least 100mbit with a high amount of traffic (several terabytes). * An acceptable amount of (burst) CPU power, for storage solutions that use encryption. Doesn't have to be incredibly much, but a maximum capacity of for example 500mHz is not going to cut it. Doesn't have to be dedicated. * Reliability/RAID would not be very important to me, since Tahoe-LAFS already takes care of redundancy and fault-tolerance.

joodle

Buy a kimsufi with 1TB Disk lol

joepie91

@joodle said: Buy a kimsufi with 1TB Disk lol

I already have a few storage nodes at OVH, and I'm trying to geographically distribute my nodes - so that wouldn't help much. And as far as I know there aren't very many providers offering Kimsufi-like servers.

rds100

@joepie91 there are, but not at the same price ;-)

Jack

@joepie91 said: I already have a few storage nodes at OVH, and I'm trying to geographically distribute my nodes - so that wouldn't help much. And as far as I know there aren't very many providers offering Kimsufi-like servers.

FDCServers Backup plan #1 and it comes with 5 IP's ;)

Surge

I'm interested. A good offer would have this:

• 128-256mb ram
• $25-40/Tb price range if RAID
• Under $25 if no RAID
• Low port speed is no good, should rather be limited total traffic w/ good burst speed.
• CPU doesn't matter

BassHost

Why would you have a back up storage with no redundancy

miTgiB

@kkmlk said: Low port speed is no good, should rather be limited total traffic w/ good burst speed.

Is there some reason you need to have high throughput to get your backups stored? Is there any difference to you if you can transfer the data at a lower rate?

nabo

• 32-64MB RAM
• cheap RAID space at $20/TB ratio
• bandwidth can be limited to 1-10MBit/s
• CPU does not matter (limit it to 100MHz if you like)

Surge

@miTgiB The faster the transfer - the shorter the backup window, and the snapshot on the source server can be released sooner. This means lower overhead on the source. Overall this also allows for more frequent backups.

raindog308

@joodle said: Buy a kimsufi with 1TB Disk lol

Honestly, I hate this answer. That kimsufi has a single disk so there's no fault tolerance.

People who think "it's only backups" have a different attitude towards data than I have.

joepie91

@Jack said: FDCServers Backup plan #1 and it comes with 5 IP's ;)

That's quite a bit more expensive than Kimsufi.

@raindog308 said: Honestly, I hate this answer. That kimsufi has a single disk so there's no fault tolerance.

To be fair, I did say

@joepie91 said: * Reliability/RAID would not be very important to me, since Tahoe-LAFS already takes care of redundancy and fault-tolerance.

rsk

@joepie91 said: Custom software allowed

Yes, thats a good one - till people abuse and start installing other non-backup related software, and host sites out of it too...

@joodle said: Buy a kimsufi with 1TB Disk lol

1TB is not enough, people need far more these days hhhh.

@kkmlk said: Overall this also allows for more frequent backups.

Yep, I agree ...

joepie91

@rsk said: Yes, thats a good one - till people abuse and start installing other non-backup related software, and host sites out of it too...

Then introduce a rule that says you cannot host public-facing services off it?

KuJoe

@raindog308 said: Honestly, I hate this answer. That kimsufi has a single disk so there's no fault tolerance.

People who think "it's only backups" have a different attitude towards data than I have.

I would agree with you if the Kimsufi server was the only backup method used. If used in conjunction with other methods it shouldn't be an issue.

dmmcintyre3

@miTgiB said: Is there some reason you need to have high throughput to get your backups stored? Is there any difference to you if you can transfer the data at a lower rate?

MySQL backups often lock the database while they are running.

miTgiB

@dmmcintyre3 said: MySQL backups often lock the database while they are running.

Are you going to remotely do the backup though? Or just dump on the local machine and gzip and transfer?

Nick_A

@Jack said: FDCServers Backup plan #1 and it comes with 5 IP's ;)

Just hope it doesn't go down every now and then like mine... Their support is worthless.

Jack

@RamNode said: Just hope it doesn't go down every now and then like mine... Their support is worthless.

Mine has been fine since 2nd February

rm_

@raindog308 said: Honestly, I hate this answer. That kimsufi has a single disk so there's no fault tolerance.

People who think "it's only backups" have a different attitude towards data than I have.

Why the heck do you need RAID for your backups. If you want reliable backup, you don't go and backup to RAID, silly, you backup using two or more vastly different strategies (e.g. to that single disk, and also locally to an external drive or tape).

raindog308

@rm_ said: Why the heck do you need RAID for your backups.

Because they've very important.

@rm_ said: If you want reliable backup, you don't go and backup to RAID, silly, you backup using two or more vastly different strategies (e.g. to that single disk, and also locally to an external drive or tape).

I prefer multiple backups each to different RAID-protected servers/disks. Disk is cheap and losing a drive is a pain. I don't use a single drive anywhere except laptops where there isn't a choice.

vistaxie

https://www.seedhost.eu/whmcs/cart.php?gid=2

yeradis

@joepie91 said: I already have a few storage nodes at OVH, and I'm trying to geographically distribute my nodes - so that wouldn't help much. And as far as I know there aren't very many providers offering Kimsufi-like servers.

> The Spanish version of that http://www.kemsirve.es/

rsk

@yeradis said: The Spanish version of that http://www.kemsirve.es/

@yeradis even though it is a different website, they are all hosted in France, and now they are offering .ca in Canada. They do not use .es (Spain) datacenter as far as I know :P

Pats

i'm currently in-between getting a VPS for Backup from datashack or volumedrive datashack: VPS Premium 1 - $10 now $7.5 with coupon 150 GB HDD 2 GB Ram 1 IP 2 TB Bandwidth

VD: VPS Package 2 - $8.95/mo | $0 Setup CPU: 3 GHz Dedicated CPU* RAM: 2 GB Dedicated Memory HD: 100 GB Hard Drive Space BW: 3000 GB Transfer Per Month IP: 2 Public IP Address

lbft

@vistaxie said: seedhost.eu

They're resold OVH boxes at a significant markup by the look of it.

eastonch

LOL All Seedbox's generally are in OVH.

fly

i'd go with datashack.

wicka

@Pats said: datashack: VPS Premium 1 - $10 now $7.5 with coupon 150 GB HDD 2 GB Ram 1 IP 2 TB Bandwidth

I can't find this plan.

jarland

@wicka Looks more like dixhost to me...

ihatetonyy

@wicka said: I can't find this plan.

That looks like a plan from one of DixHost's WHT posts.

peepingnerd

@lbft

They're resold OVH boxes at a significant markup by the look of it.

i've finally found a similar offer from a provider a little less obscure

Pats

@wicka said: I can't find this plan.

sorry, its dixhost as mentioned by @jarland & @ihatetonny . Their datacenter: ovh, france wrong copy'n'paste from my notepad :P

ynzheng

so kemsirve.es is kimsufi brand?

200G hdd on torqhost for 3dollar yearly

rsk

@ynzheng said: so kemsirve.es is kimsufi brand?

Yes, its kimsufi

dominicl

@rsk said: Yes, its kimsufi

spanish version i believe :P

yomero

@dominicl said: spanish version i believe :P

This. You must order from the right site depending on your location.

Here the table: http://www.ovh.co.uk/dedicated_servers/availability.xml

And the corresponding kimsufi ones

bobby

Torqhost is superb, no downtime since april (bought my first then, so never) for me and support is skilled/fast/friendly.

djvdorp

@ynzheng said: 200G hdd on torqhost for 3dollar yearly

Do you have a link for that?

Ree

@djvdorp He means 3 dollars per month if you pay annually. (It's really 2.50 euro, less VAT since their advertised prices include VAT, and then converted to USD)

EDIT: Looks like they don't remove VAT when you update your country...

jarland

Looks like hostigation backup plans are all in stock.