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Congrats ColoCrossing!
On becoming the #3 most spammiest network according to Spamhaus
http://www.spamhaus.org/statistics/networks/
Looks like spamhaus is getting fed up with them
We respect your work in stopping the abusers when notified, and we know that yours is a legitimate business facing problems and not a shady network provider willing to provide bulletproof hosting.
However, many other ISPs, even those way larger than ColoCrossing, face the same abuse problem as ColoCrossing and they manage to keep it under control.
The amount of resources assigned to spammers in their networks is orders of magnitude smaller than ColoCrossing's.We've already notified how almost all the abusers signing up on your network are using fake IDs and how vetting/confirming these IDs can limit the problem. Nothing happened on this side, and abusers are still allowed to sign up providing fake names and addresses.
We've also suggested several times how placing rate-limits to outbound SMTP traffic can severely affect the "bad apples'" ability to abuse your resources to send spam, but again we've seen no indication of anything being arranged in this regard.
We've been playing whack-a-mole with you for a long time now: it's simply not working nor there seem to be an interest to really solve the problem on your part.
As already announced way too many times we have no further interest in wasting our time playing this game: the amount of SBLs we've been opening for your networks is far beyond unacceptable (565 in the latest 6 months).
Our first concern is about our users and how your apparent lack of control over your network is harming their ability to properly keep their mailboxes clean; therefore I'm afraid we're going to advise our users to not accept email traffic coming from your networks until we see a serious indication that the problem is being taken care of.
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Spamhaus should sort themselves out before naming others.
Spamhaus is not exactly the innocent organisation itself. Infamous for their blackmailing.
Its not just spamhaus that has them listed, senderbase also has colocrossing as #3
http://www.senderbase.org/static/spam/
Go to "Top Senders by Network Owner"
Do we need yet another thread for this? @spencer I know it's hard to ask you to think but search first.
Kinda, but if your read the e-mail
"Our first concern is about our users and how your apparent lack of control over your network is harming their ability to properly keep their mailboxes clean; therefore I'm afraid we're going to advise our users to not accept email traffic coming from your networks until we see a serious indication that the problem is being taken care of."
you will see that ALL colocrossing e-mail traffic is blocked now
If they did not care to do something about it up to this point it will make no difference to them now. Anyone using CC services and email will be well aware of the issues getting mail through.
Go chat with DR Mike over at VPSBoard, this seems to be a subject they are more interested in discussing.
I hate to be the guy to say it, but what if Colocrossing's "unresolved list" is simply a lack of responding communication? I mean... you're talking about a hundred or more VPS providers, each with their own spam abuse handling policy. Not every provider sends response to Colocrossing, not every provider sends response to Spamhaus, and I doubt every response sent from provider to Colocrossing makes it all the way to Spamhaus. I mean... they have items on that list from companies that for all intents and purposes don't exist anymore.
You know you could always avoid the thread if you don't want to read it instead of entering it and acting a dick.
I could, but then like most I have an opinion to express and can do it without name calling.
That is not expressing an opinion. I suggest you take a leaf out of your own book and ask yourself to think before posting.
You are my hero, thanks for your guidance.
LOL @ Title of the thread.
I don't use ColoCrossing (except for LET) and i don't use spamhaus. So i don't care.
Why do spammer still sign up with us then?
QueryFoundry is on that Cisco list as well and they are considerably smaller than ColoCrossing. In other words: these statisticus are definitely not as black-and-white as people like to use them, they certainly don't paint the full picture, and they're all relative.
If Spamhaus was really concerned to stop SPAM they should be working with providers rather than against them.
Spammers still like to see a good dd result too, they're not total animals.
They love to use the best provider
OVH.net They offer 256 IPs with their server so people will surely not gonna use that much IPs for good things
That being said, we have worked personally with many networks that had a bad reputation both with spamhaus and here on the community, and it is easily possible to clean up these networks. By simply implementing an SMTP rate-limit by default [ and lifting it where legitimate mail has been confirmed ] you can stop and resolve more than 90% of the Spamhaus issues on a given network.
Please note that with ColoCrossing, there are numerous SINGLE IP ADDRESSES doing volumes measured at 0.5+ BILLION EMAILS PER DAY of spam, such as the following listing:
http://www.senderbase.org/lookup/ip/?search_string=23.249.160.197
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logarithm
http://www.senderbase.org/support/#problem=magnitude
Sorry, then it's only 0.58 billion spam emails per day. I don't see where the excuse is.
These things are often best measured not by what Spamhaus say but what the general reporting of issues is in relation to emails being delivered. Unless I have just not noticed I can't recall many if any complaints about this from people on the CC network.
Or has there been?
Try... 3 million?
You're still an order and a half of magnitude off.
An incredible amount of the spam that hits our servers [@goodhosting.co] is from CC, as well as Vietnam and China. Yet CC's controlled networks are in the top 5.
Magnitude 5 shows as 0.001% on that chart, of am I missing something?
230.64 * 0.001 = 0.23064 (0.23 Billion) + the 5.5 vs 5.0 [ 0.3+ ] , or 300,000,000 ?
Again, am I missing something on that chart?
Or is that a literal magnitude:
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=calculate+230.64+x+10^5
Which would still be 30,000,000 spam per day?
Did you skip third grade math?
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=(10^(-(10-5.5)))*230+billion
Let me use their own example then, since I really don't see what's going wrong here:
Considering the current average daily billions is
269.7249as shown here:http://www.senderbase.org/static/spam/
Which apparently, to obtain their value; means that our power is one less?
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=calculate+200+x+10^5+/+10
That's fine, but we're at
269.7249, not200. So that updates our formula to:http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=calculate+269.7249+x+10^5+/+10
And then again, the magnitude is
5.5not5.0; which leaves us with either:http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=calculate+269.7249+x+10^5+/+2
or
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=calculate+269.7249+x+10^5+/+5
I don't know in which country they teach powers, exponents or magnitudes in grade three; but we weren't even taught them in High School here... so I'm probably missing something, sure.
And this is still only a single IP address from their network. They have millions more.
I do know percentages were taught in grade 3. 0.001% is multiply by 0.00001, not 0.001
Using that measure, 230 billion * 0.00001 = 2.3 million.
I don't use servers from ColoCrossing for hosting my mail servers, and never will. G'day mate.
It's ColoCrossing!