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Spamhaus, Tax Evasion, Shell Companies, Extortion Strategies, Blackmail and Much Much More

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  • SASPSASP Member

    raindog308 said: Yeah, and we've had them since the late 90s. They were "powerful" and used "Bayesian statistics" as well. SpamAssassin, for example, dates from that period. DSPAM has been around for 10+ years as well.

    Apparently a lot of people decided they were not enough.

    SpamAssassin is written in perl and is super slow. The Dspam from 2003 is totally different from the Dspam of 2008.

  • GIANT_CRABGIANT_CRAB Member
    edited June 2014

    SpamHaus = abusive, corrupted police state

    CISCO's SpamCop = friendly neighborhood police

    Thanked by 1doughmanes
  • SASP said: SpamAssassin is written in perl and is super slow.

    Perl can be one of the fastest interpreted languages for text processing. There's lots of sticks to beat Perl with but I probably wouldn't attribute it to text processing being slow. Every language has it's place and even a slower language can be a better choice if the dev team know it better or have a plan for it in their minds.

    except Java of course.

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  • SASPSASP Member

    AThomasHowe said: Perl can be one of the fastest interpreted languages for text processing. There's lots of sticks to beat Perl with but I probably wouldn't attribute it to text processing being slow. Every language has it's place and even a slower language can be a better choice if the dev team know it better or have a plan for it in their minds.

    Yes, you're comparing python and perl, two interpreters but dspam is written in C.

  • SASP said: Yes, you're comparing python and perl, two interpreters but dspam is written in C.

    Of course but for a lot of people here micro optimisations aren't so important as long as the system runs quite light generally. An extra few ms to scan a document isn't going to make a difference.

    There's a shift away from pointless optimisations, writing code for humans interpreted by machines, not code written for machines interpreted by humans. Of course most people wouldn't find Perl more readable but you see my point. Most mail servers aren't scanning thousands of mails a second, they're scanning maybe a few an hour.

    My original point was that it's only slow in comparison to benchmarks using C. In every day usage you probably won't notice your mails coming through quicker.

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  • SASPSASP Member

    @AThomasHowe said:
    My original point was that it's only slow in comparison to benchmarks using C. In every day usage you probably won't notice your mails coming through quicker.

    I totally agree, I was saying about it because people were talking about heavy e-mail services.

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  • SASP said: I totally agree, I was saying about it because people were talking about heavy e-mail services.

    Fair play. I think I spent too much time around programming language purists in my youth... ;P

  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Veteran

    @SASP said:
    SpamAssassin is written in perl and is super slow. The Dspam from 2003 is totally different from the Dspam of 2008.

    So change 10+ years to 6 years and the point is the same - a lot of people find local filtering is not enough. If it was, SpamHaus wouldn't exist.

    I'm not defending SH - for all I know they're evil incarnate. But people want more than local filtering.

  • WilliamWilliam Member
    edited June 2014

    eddynetweb said: @Maounique said: Thay actually blacklisted a whole country TLD...

    Yep, the Austrian .at registry was listed entirely on Spamhaus - Including and obviously targeted at their mailservers - for not removing a domain (used in Spam as redirector iirc) registered with (what Spamhaus said) fake data (which, at this time, would have violated Austrian law.)

  • SASPSASP Member
    edited July 2014

    Spamhaus posted a new bunch of FUD on their page.

    Spamhaus attempt to get the credit of the arrest of a youngster in the UK and thanks the "great police" for their work, a distraction to mitigate the will of these organizations to investigate Spamhaus.

    The youngster was not arrested because of Spamhaus but rather because the story used to be mediatized and thus caused the investigation. The kid was not part of any discussion on stophaus.com but used the popularity of the site to sponsor the attacks.

    However, Spamhaus by simply using their disinformation tactics caused the arrest of Sven Olaf Kamphuis.

    That individual has been charged by the Dutch Public Prosecution Service for leading and orchestrating the DDoS attack. That criminal case is proceeding to trial through the Dutch legal system.

    After spending couple of weeks in jail, Sven Olaf Kamphuis was released and all charges were dropped, he returned to live in Spain and no criminal case is proceeding to trial.

    Maybe the police would be also interested in investigating how Stephen (Steve) Linford purchased his villa in the Balearic Islands? Or maybe the one in France? Or, how he acquired a yacht, cars... More about this in the upcoming posts.

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  • SASPSASP Member
    edited July 2014

    Good day,

    I am searching for volunteers to help me to edit the articles on wikipedia that Stephen (Steve) Linford has been actively editing.

    This concerns, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Linford and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Spamhaus_Project

    I need people who are experienced in English.

    The mission is to remove the propaganda and the misleading information.

    To keep the changes active I also need help to write to the wikipedia's moderation team that the propaganda was entirely written by the Spamhaus people, I have all the evidences but I need to put this in form. Therefore we would need to fill the talk page of these articles.

    If you're interested please send me a PM.

    Very much appreciated.

  • @SASP send me a PM. I would be willing to donate some additional services, including SEO, to get this important story out.

  • wychwych Member
    edited July 2014

    @doughmanes said:
    SASP send me a PM. I would be willing to donate some additional services, including SEO, to get this important story out.

    I can do some stuff to, PM if needed - also @SASP that wiki page has been changed.

  • SASP said: I need people who are experimented in English.

    Hmm?

  • doughmanes said: There was a "woman" working with them at one time.

    Natale M Bianchi

  • emgemg Veteran

    @joelgm - Obviously @SASP meant, "experienced in English." What was your point?

  • wychwych Member

    Someones stripping the updated Wiki again.

  • @wych said:
    Someones stripping the updated Wiki again.

    Spamhaus bastards. Restore it and put a note in the talk page to tell admins that they're actively editing their own page (not allowed).

  • wychwych Member

    @0xdragon its back in for now, will add notes next time ;)

  • SASP said: many reasons why people are switching to Gmail

    SEO spammers love Gmail. That is what I know.

  • 0xdragon said: Spamhaus bastards. Restore it and put a note in the talk page to tell admins that they're actively editing their own page (not allowed).

    How can you prove that?

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran

    Actually, gmail is managing spam by themselves pretty well without any "lists" which should be only for the little guys. Microsoft. yahoo are both large enough to put some serious filters there, but they either dont care or intentionally use those lists to make email from small email hosts and self-hosted impractical in most cases, microsoft blacklists any new IP from what I saw, when we got our blocks in US microsoft blacklisted it automatically even tho there was no case of blacklisted ip there.

  • AThomasHoweAThomasHowe Member
    edited July 2014

    0xdragon said: Spamhaus bastards. Restore it and put a note in the talk page to tell admins that they're actively editing their own page (not allowed).

    Uhh, maybe somebody just isn't putting much effort in this time putting it back but here's what I see:

    Did you consider the reason they removed it is that they're allegations, still without much proof, on some forum somewhere. If I was a wikipedia editor I'd remove that too.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Ten_Simple_Rules_for_Editing_Wikipedia#Rule_6._Cite.2C_cite.2C_cite

    To maintain the highest standards possible, Wikipedia has a strict inclusion policy that demands verifiability. This is best established by attributing each statement in Wikipedia to a reliable, published source (but see Rules 7 and 8 on excessive self-citing). Most scientists are in the fortunate position of having access to a wide body of literature, and experience in using inline citations to support their writing. Since unverified content may be removed from Wikipedia at any time, provide supporting citations for every statement that might be challenged by another editor at some point in the future. Whenever possible, give preference to secondary sources (such as reviews or book chapters) that survey the relevant primary research over research articles themselves. Wikipedia's accessibility makes each of its scientific articles an excellent entry point for laypeople seeking specialist information. By also providing direct hyperlinks to reliable, freely accessible online resources with your citations (biological databases or open-access journals, for example), other editors can quickly verify your content and readers have immediate access to authoritative sources that address the subject in greater detail.

    ...

    Rule 8. Share your expertise, but don't argue from authority

    Writing about a subject about which you have academic expertise is not a conflict of interest; indeed, this is where we can contribute to Wikipedia most effectively. Jimmy Wales, co-founder of Wikipedia, told Nature that experts have the ability to “write specifics in a nuanced way”, thereby significantly improving article quality.[1] When writing in your area of expertise, referencing material you have published in peer-reviewed journals is permitted if it is genuinely notable, but use common sense (and revisit Rule 7). For example, if you have an obscure, never-been-cited article in the Journal of New Zealand Dairy Research discussing the RNA content of cow milk, then referencing this in the introductory paragraph of the Wikipedia articles on “RNA”, “Milk”, “Cow”, and “Evolution of mammals” is not a good idea. Occasionally you may interact with another editor who clearly does not share your expertise on the subject of an article. This can often prove frustrating for experts and is the basis of much academic angst on Wikipedia.[1] On such occasions, remember that you are assessed only on your contributions to Wikipedia, not who you are, your qualifications, or what you have achieved in your career. Your specialist knowledge should enable you to write in a neutral manner and produce reliable, independent sources to support each assertion you make. If you do not provide verification, your contributions will be rightly challenged irrespective of how many degrees you hold.

    It's not the man keeping you down, it's shitty editing. If you want it on wiki prepare to do some proper citing. If you keep doing it they'll lock the page from changes and you won't have a chance anymore.

  • SASPSASP Member

    @emg said:
    joelgm - Obviously SASP meant, "experienced in English." What was your point?

    Yes, I meant "experienced", I don't know why I've written "experimented" at all.

  • SASPSASP Member

    Please be careful when editing wikipedia right now, as I've told the first point was to reverse the changes made by the Spamhaus people, especially Stephen (Steve) Linford.

    As you see, wikipedia requests possibility to verify the claims and I have them.

    I will make a new post later with the demonstrations.

    Once again, thanks to everyone who is committed to help. The posts get more attention and support than I thought and this is very good.

    I think we have an opportunity to put an end to the embezzlements of this organization for good.

    I am though surprised that wikipedia pointed out that a link to this forum is not sufficient, I think the admin did not read the post as I believe that we've got enough information to prevent denial of the facts.

  • SASPSASP Member
    edited July 2014

    Good news, I can see that some of the accounts used by Spamhaus were banned from wikipedia. Some even decided to retire on their own before the revelations.

    I can see that Stephen (Steve) Linford is still active on the talk page to attempt to commit edits.

    He does not fear of being pathetic:

    Guys, you're not dealing with a '14 year old script kiddie', the person threatening you is (Redacted) from 'STOPhaus' a serious group of spammers who hate Spamhaus and have vandalized this same Wikipedia page many times before and is the same person who made the edits to the Spamhaus "CyberBunker dispute and DDoS attack" section. That section should be reverted to 19:42, 19 June 2013‎ (Trivialist) really the last correct version. The current version calls Spamhaus "Terrorists" and claims various illegal activities invented by this 'STOPhaus' guy. Cheers FirenzeNove FirenzeNove (talk) 20:29,

    In this one he very wants wikipedia to update the number of users using his censorship system:

    "The Spamhaus services protect 650 million email users" - I guess some point ten years ago that would have been real but nowadays is > 1.9 billion users (http://www.spamhaus.org/organization/ "Spamhaus Userbase" at 03 March 2014 = 1,971,848,000 users).

    I don't think it's a problem to add corrections here in Talk, but sorry anyway if it gets someone upset :-) FirenzeNove (talk) 12:05, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

  • BrianHarrisonBrianHarrison Member, Patron Provider

    @Microlinux said:
    Blacklists are information that most people use irresponsibly. Spamhaus, for example, hasn't blocked a single e-mail or IP. They distribute a list that providers use to block e-mails or IPs.

    Exactly. +1

  • tchentchen Member

    Please take your wikipedia ego tiffs elsewhere. Sincerely, lurker.

  • DylanDylan Member

    Maounique said: Yes. However, you may not know how spamcop would behave if they were used by major mail providers.

    SpamCop is owned by Cisco, not a little independent organization, so it seems much less likely they'd get all power-trippy.

  • marrcomarrco Member
    edited July 2014

    Maounique said: Actually, gmail is managing spam by themselves pretty well without any "lists" which should be only for the little guys.

    Does Gmail use Spamhaus blacklists?

    Posted by Al Iverson on Wednesday, July 9, 2014
    [ http://www.spamresource.com/2014/07/does-gmail-use-spamhaus-blacklists.html ]

    Probably, implies Return Path based on a correlation between a typical Spamhaus blacklisting and drop in inbox delivery rates at Gmail. I think it's safe to assume that Google does use Spamhaus data for some sort of reputation calculation impacting Gmail deliverability.

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