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Wait, what? You're expecting me to give evidence that I am not attacking things? What happened to 'innocent until proven guilty', and how exactly do you expect me to prove that I'm not doing something?
Aside from Anon not having the concept of a 'member', did I ever dispute I was involved in Anon? No.
And what did 'being involved in Anon' have to do with attacking things again?
Uhm, what? You're severely misunderstanding what Anonymous is. Maybe you should take a hint and stop constantly repeating yourself, and actually do some research into it before continuing this conversation.
All they do is ddos and hack sites. Which result in governments wanting to install censorship devices at network level.
JoePie can not clearly be a member of Anonymous because he is not anonymous
Can you link me on that? And if they are not affiliated with Anonymous, why do they frequent thet Anonops IRC server?
End of the day the evidence is out there. But if he says he dont commit these acts of terrorism fine. we shall stop it here. But my personal opinion is he does.
No. Well thats what the terrorist agency (Anon) says.
If it wasn't clear enough from the last 4 times I said this, that is false and in fact complete bullshit. Do. Your. Research.
I think it showed up somewhere in JoshTheGods Twitter timeline, I recall it being somewhere close to the thing about them doing it for entirely different motives than 'we want to highlight the use of WHMCS for illegal stuff'. I linked that tweet in another thread, can't immediately find it now.
I have no clue whether that's the case - and if it's the case, I have no clue why that would be the case, you'll probably have to ask them yourself. I don't frequent Anonops anymore, for the exact reason that it's full of idiots that just want to DDoS stuff, and it's impossible to get anything constructive done.
How about you actually respond to the points I brought up instead of playing the moral white knight?
am not going to argue with you. but as i said this is what i think. Maybe fact may not be. but there is alot of evidence of you being liked to there activites wether you actually ddos'ed any sites is not the case. Any normal person should not support or even trust anon or even there members. just like no one should trust the late osama bin laden.
Calling a false accusation an 'opinion' does not make it any more correct, and it does not make it any less slander.
And 'their activities' would be what exactly? And who is 'they'? If the penny still hasn't dropped with you, Anonymous is not a coherent group and it does not have any defined structure, it's just a name.
And why not exactly? Who are you to define what a 'normal' person is? Anyone that doesn't agree with your view of anyone that doesn't blindly obey a government or other entity, being a 'terrorist'? Do you even know what the word 'terrorist' means?
Are you seriously comparing Anonymous to Osama Bin Laden now?
Ofcourse i know what terroist means.
Yes. Both are destructive. And causing problems. For example bin laden bombs the US and a few thousand die. And now look at america. Its virtually a police state. Now with anon hacking servers and stuff. (gov servers) they now want to install blackboxes in the actual network. so they can see everything. Tell me one good thing anon has done?
Then you should have no issue posting the definition; go ahead.
Uhm, no. It's funny how you still claim to know exactly what anon is, despite me having pointed out several times you're wrong and that you have to do your research. Considering we both agree that I am involved in anon, wouldn't that mean that my suggestion may be a valid suggestion since I am actually involved with it and as such know more about it than you?
Sure, and so are governments. So are corporations. So is your grandmother that decides to visit on a day when you really want to be left alone. So they all equal Osama Bin Laden now as well?
And why is that? Because the US was retarded enough to actually respond to those attacks in the exact way the 'terrorists' had intended - by fearing them and closing down things. The problem here lies with the response from the US, not with the original 'terrorist activity'. As could be seen clearly in for example Norway, the best way to deal with real terrorism is to ignore it - then it simply won't have the intended effect.
Oh, you think those plans weren't already in the making? Again, you didn't seem to have done your research. Try actually figuring out when all these 'oppressive acts' were originally drafted (and I mean the earliest of them), and you'll notice that they were drafted far before the first anons started with politically motivated actions. And that's not even touching on the point that anon is not the cause of these responses, just a catalyst that may or may not make them go faster - and considering one of the things Anon is trying to solve are those exact 'oppressive tactics', it is pretty much impossible to fight against them without speeding them up.
Do you know what the alternative is? Sitting in a corner being afraid, hoping the 'big bad government won't introduce new oppressive measures'. 1984, anyone?
If you had actually read my responses instead of just spouting your Daily Mail bullshit throughout the topic without even understanding what it is about, you would have noticed that I had already done that.
When did he do that? Did i miss something?
As long as mr. 'Anonymous expert' is slandering me in public I'll point out every bit of bullshit he writes. If that stops, I won't respond to it anymore either.
LET has an IRC channel?
Yes, #lowendtalk on irc.freenode.net.
As update, Colocation has been ordered and we will ship out the machine next thursday, it should be ready to deploy VPS on in 10 days.
That guy used to be a good friend of mine, he's an asshole.
Who Ryan?
"The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."
We didn't respond to the attacks. The bribers and politicians just saw the attacks as an excuse.
Yeah, I've not seen/spoken to him in four years though. He was a lot less weird back then.
What happened?
Honestly, he started acting like a cocky little shit so I stopped speaking to him. Wasn't surprised when I heard he got arrested, he's been doing that kinda stuff for years.
Still got the chat logs of when I spoke to him, probably could have made some money selling them to the press :P
No, trust me - They don't want that (been there, done that).
For the sake of not further derailing this thread into "the attacks were real" / "the attacks were fake" and similar responses, I made the assumption that they were real and there was no malicious intent from any government. Makes it a whole lot easier to discuss the situation and it doesn't matter much for the end conclusion. I personally don't believe the 'official story' anyway, but discussing that would open up another pointless flamewar, so it may be best to just leave that in the middle.
I've known him for... 3 or 4 years? To be honest he's always been like he is now, he just seemed better at hiding it back then. I have had some conflicts with him in the past, so to say.
Quit wasting your time ヽ( >∀<)ﾉ AHAHA AHAHA AHAHAHAHA
Concerning vpn, is it allowed to install a server for about 40 user? Non commercial of course and the users will always be the same cause it's one team...
HerrMaulwurf
He already said no.
Where did he say that? I only see him saying no public VPNs, and that VRS doesn't support VPNs. Haven't been able to find anything about no private VPNs on the KVM (?) plans.
Yea, when I emailed EDIS about it they said the same thing. It just can't be public.
EDIT: From their website: