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Online.net now offers an Atom C2750 (Avoton) for EUR 19,99/month

AmitzAmitz Member
edited May 2014 in Providers

http://www.online.net/en/dedicated-server/dedibox-xc

1x Intel® C2750 (Avoton)

8 GB ECC RAM

1 TB SATA3 HD

150 Mbps guaranteed on 1 Gbit unmetered

up to 5 additional IPv4 (EUR 1,99 each)

nice box to play with! :-)

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  • sc754sc754 Member

    A nice cpu for virtualisation and multi threading, but single core performance is not good looking at passmark at least

  • BlazeMuisBlazeMuis Member
    edited May 2014

    Oooh, that looks awesome :)

    They don't seem to accept paypal anymore :(

  • J1021J1021 Member

    Which DC does Online.net use?

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  • NeoonNeoon Member

    Paypal still works from my site :)

  • AmitzAmitz Member

    Paypal works for all international customers that once used paypal with them before. New international customers (or those who never paid them with paypal) are forced to use a CC.

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  • boerndboernd Member

    The Kimsufi 20€ server is still better. 16GB ram and a better CPU.

    They only advantage is that you can get more IPs.

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  • AmitzAmitz Member
    edited May 2014

    Well, it's however nice to have a choice...

    I always wanted to play with that special atom and now is playtime. :-)

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  • earlearl Member

    wonder how their network is.. it says premium 150mbit guaranteed.. Im noticing kimsufi can get kinda slow at times..

  • Pretty good network, I have one of the servers with a 300mbps "guarantee", but they let me use a lot more:

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  • NateN34NateN34 Member
    edited May 2014

    MM, that processor is pretty pathetic. 8 cores, but a dual core Celeron outperforms it.

    Better off getting the KS-3 from OVH for 14.99 EUR, which has a better i3 2130 in it. Only benefit this has, is ECC RAM.

  • AmitzAmitz Member

    I am very happy with their network, too. There have been some massive upgrades since they openend up officially for international customers... I more than often went way above the guaranteed bandwidth for hours.

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  • J1021J1021 Member

    Anyone got any screenshots of the Online.net control panel?

  • TarZZ92TarZZ92 Member

    earl said: wonder how their network is.. it says premium 150mbit guaranteed.. Im noticing kimsufi can get kinda slow at times..

    its awesome for people based in Europe. however americans are out of luck!

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  • wychwych Member

    Shame you can't get RAID.

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  • AmitzAmitz Member
    edited May 2014

    You get RAID with the server that costs EUR 10 more. And - I did some speedtests with some US servers and cannot really complain about the performance.

    Download speed from CacheFly: 104MB/s
    Download speed from Coloat, Atlanta GA: 43.5MB/s
    Download speed from Softlayer, Dallas, TX: 25.7MB/s
    Download speed from Linode, London, UK: 57.0MB/s
    Download speed from Leaseweb, Haarlem, NL: 78.3MB/s
    Download speed from Softlayer, Seattle, WA: 33.4MB/s
    Download speed from Softlayer, San Jose, CA: 22.3MB/s
    Download speed from Softlayer, Washington, DC: 23.8MB/s
    
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  • NeoonNeoon Member

    I think about to buy one of these, would someone allow me to run a gameserver for short time? Just testing.

  • AmitzAmitz Member
    edited May 2014

    Just checked the hard drive. Seems as if it is not as old as I expected it to be:

    [email protected]:~/smartmontools-6.2# smartctl -A /dev/sda
    smartctl 6.2 2013-07-26 r3841 [x86_64-linux-3.2.0-4-amd64] (local build)
    Copyright (C) 2002-13, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org
    
    === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
    SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
    Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
    ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
      1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x000b   100   100   062    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
      2 Throughput_Performance  0x0005   100   100   040    Pre-fail  Offline      -       0
      3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0007   136   136   033    Pre-fail  Always       -       2
      4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0012   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       13
      5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   005    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
      7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x000b   100   100   067    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
      8 Seek_Time_Performance   0x0005   100   100   040    Pre-fail  Offline      -       0
      9 Power_On_Hours          0x0012   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       162
     10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0013   100   100   060    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
     12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       13
    191 G-Sense_Error_Rate      0x000a   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
    192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       2
    193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0012   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       38
    194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0002   230   230   000    Old_age   Always       -       26 (Min/Max 19/33)
    196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
    197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0022   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
    198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0008   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
    199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x000a   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
    223 Load_Retry_Count        0x000a   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
    
    [email protected]:~/smartmontools-6.2# smartctl -i /dev/sda
    smartctl 6.2 2013-07-26 r3841 [x86_64-linux-3.2.0-4-amd64] (local build)
    Copyright (C) 2002-13, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org
    
    === START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
    Model Family:     HGST Travelstar 7K1000
    Device Model:     HGST HTS721010A9E630
    Serial Number:    JR10006PH4YDZE
    LU WWN Device Id: 5 000cca 6acd0576c
    Firmware Version: JB0OA3J0
    User Capacity:    1,000,204,886,016 bytes [1.00 TB]
    Sector Sizes:     512 bytes logical, 4096 bytes physical
    Rotation Rate:    7200 rpm
    Device is:        In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
    ATA Version is:   ATA8-ACS T13/1699-D revision 6
    SATA Version is:  SATA 3.0, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 6.0 Gb/s)
    Local Time is:    Tue May 27 00:52:44 2014 CEST
    SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
    SMART support is: Enabled
    

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  • TarZZ92TarZZ92 Member

    why would they be using the slower 2.5 drives in those quite fast servers. strange..

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  • AmitzAmitz Member
    edited May 2014

    They deliver around 120 transactions per second. Should be well enough if you are not running a very busy database.

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  • wojonswojons Member

    this is one of those servers that i will over work in a good away i will give it lots of the extra utility services that i run on some vms and throw them on to one node and walk away from it. It has enough cpu when it needs it but cheap enough that its worth the savings.

  • AmitzAmitz Member

    I completely agree. That Atom is exactly what I was looking for to replace some vms.

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  • it's the i5 that is the same price with OVH, I take it the i5 is better?

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  • ZEROFZEROF Member
    edited May 2014

    Check url posted before you will get your answer. If you want to buy one for your home go with Atome, low power usage, of course. If you get cheap i5 (online), why not, but don't thinkt to get as much VMs.

    hostnoob said: it's the i5 that is the same price with OVH, I take it the i5 is better?

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  • wojonswojons Member

    @hostnoob said:
    it's the i5 that is the same price with OVH, I take it the i5 is better?

    I have never pushed high traffic on my kimisfi machines but not sure if they get past the 100mb port speed at all.

  • hostnoobhostnoob Member
    edited May 2014

    @wojons said:

    ah yeah, OVH only offer 100mbit

    @ZEROF said:
    Check url posted before you will get your answer. If you want to buy one for your home go with Atome, low power usage, of course. If you get cheap i5 (online), why not, but don't thinkt to get as much VMs.

    that was the i3, but yeah I checked on that site and the i5 seems to be more powerful

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  • wojonswojons Member

    One thing to consider is that the i5 is the cheaper because kimisfi shows price with vat while online.net does not show price with vat.

    also find that my provider should almost always have stock. getting servers at kimisfi is a never ending stock battle.

  • @hostnoob said:
    it's the i5 that is the same price with OVH, I take it the i5 is better?

    Much better, I'm just showing it has similar performance as an i3 from Kimsufi :)

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  • blackblack Member

    @project10 said:
    Pretty good network, I have one of the servers with a 300mbps "guarantee", but they let me use a lot more:

    Holy crap you use a lot of bandwidth.

  • rm_rm_ Member
    edited May 2014

    wojons said: One thing to consider is that the i5 is the cheaper because kimisfi shows price with vat while online.net does not show price with vat.

    That's not true, the i5 at OVH is 19.99 EUR w/o VAT, this one is 19.99 w/o VAT too.

    Not too amazing of an offer, the only benefit over OVH's server is the faster network, "150 Mbit guaranteed" means it's connected at gigabit and you can burst to full gigabit a lot of the time, but that's not guaranteed.

    Download speed from CacheFly: 104MB/s
    Download speed from Linode, London, UK: 57.0MB/s
    Download speed from Leaseweb, Haarlem, NL: 78.3MB/s

    Whereas at OVH you are plugged into a 100 Mbit port, and about 11 MB/sec is all you ever get.

  • RurikoRuriko Member
    edited May 2014

    Why do they not have windows? :(
    Are there any online.net resellers?

  • TarZZ92TarZZ92 Member

    Ruriko said: Why do they not have windows? :( Are there any online.net resellers?

    its simple to install windows on it.

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  • CakeyCakey Member

    @Ruriko said:
    Why do they not have windows? :(
    Are there any online.net resellers?

    They do?

    You can also just use IPMI to install the ISO.

    Also oh god no don't go with the oneprovider reseller, I got to use my dedicated server for about 3 days (3 days to setup, 16 days to fix the raid they put in wrong, 6 days for them to mark the installation as done, 3 days to reinstall as they did that wrong too)

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  • TarZZ92TarZZ92 Member

    Cakey said: You can also just use IPMI to install the ISO.

    says only on business level support http://www.online.net/en/dedicated-server/dedibox-xc#caracteristique

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  • RurikoRuriko Member

    @Cakey said:
    Also oh god no don't go with the oneprovider reseller, I got to use my dedicated server for about 3 days (3 days to setup, 16 days to fix the raid they put in wrong, 6 days for them to mark the installation as done, 3 days to reinstall as they did that wrong too)

    Well online.net doesn't accept paypal to Aussie users and oneprovider doesn't even have the new dedi plan that online.net has

  • SebfmSebfm Member

    Online.net does accept credit card payment for Aussie. :)

    @Ruriko said:
    Well online.net doesn't accept paypal to Aussie users and oneprovider doesn't even have the new dedi plan that online.net has

  • RurikoRuriko Member

    @Sebfm said:
    Online.net does accept credit card payment for Aussie. :)

    Well online.net doesn't accept paypal to Aussie users and oneprovider doesn't even have the new dedi plan that online.net has

    But I want to pay with paypal :(

  • @Ruriko said:
    But I want to pay with paypal :(

    They accepted my payment with PayPal (balance and credit card) and I'm an Aussie.

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  • NanNanNanNan Member

    It looks not support KVM/IPMI console, so customers can't install windows on it, i think Kimsufi would be better.

  • RurikoRuriko Member

    @0xdragon said:
    They accepted my payment with PayPal (balance and credit card) and I'm an Aussie.

  • @Ruriko said:

    Ah, I was with them for a few months at the end of last year :/

    They probably received too many chargebacks.

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  • TarZZ92TarZZ92 Member

    NanNan said: It looks not support KVM/IPMI console, so customers can't install windows on it, i think Kimsufi would be better.

    its still quite easy to install windows..

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  • sc754sc754 Member

    @0xdragon said:
    Much better, I'm just showing it has similar performance as an i3 from Kimsufi :)

    Not if the single core performance were included in that benchmark

  • CoreyCorey Member, Provider
    edited May 2014

    I saw one person mention it, but have you guys not heard of or seen the new integrated celerons? They outperform the atoms usually around the same price range. Seems like 'ATOM' is just a buzz word among techies right now.

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  • sc754sc754 Member

    @Corey said:
    I saw one person mention it, but have you guys not heard of or seen the new integrated celerons? They outperform the atoms usually around the same price range. Seems like 'ATOM' is just a buzz word among techies right now.

    Seems like the J1900 is just one of these atoms split in half

  • wojonswojons Member

    @Corey said:
    I saw one person mention it, but have you guys not heard of or seen the new integrated celerons? They outperform the atoms usually around the same price range. Seems like 'ATOM' is just a buzz word among techies right now.

    yeah this is one of those things intel did to drop the prie since the board and the cpu are intergrated i guess it removes a lot of issues. My guess is it dops the price of the cpu and not the board its self. I remeber somewhere someone built a cluser using these in small box http://www.servethehome.com/mini-cluster-box-v2-64gb-ram-24-cores-13-nics-3-systems-2-switches/

  • CoreyCorey Member, Provider

    sc754 said: Seems like the J1900 is just one of these atoms split in half

    Nope not at all
    http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Celeron-J1900-vs-Intel-Atom-C2750

    Celeron performs just as good and is 10 times cheaper.

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  • wojonswojons Member
    edited May 2014

    Corey said: Nope not at all http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Celeron-J1900-vs-Intel-Atom-C2750

    Celeron performs just as good and is 10 times cheaper.

    Very very intresting. i will heck some other benchmark sources but if this is the case then the atom is almost postinless since u can get the j1900 for like 90$ a board. Onething i think the atom can take 64gb of ram each I THINK but i have to check the j1900 i haven ot seen higher then 8gb

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157475
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128698

  • netomxnetomx Member, Moderator

    Interesting, in my country, they sell the Celeron 1037U for $82 tax included; 32GB max supported, and with VT :o

    http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Celeron-1037U-vs-Intel-Atom-D2550

    http://pcel.com/hardware/tarjetas-madre-motherboards-intel-amd-cpu-socket/ECS-NM70-I2-99568

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