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Common issue with most vps providers?

edited May 2012 in General

What is one of the most common issues with vps providers?

I would have to say Support

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  • Pinhdom caught vps being down, open ticket. Provider denies it.

  • miTgiBmiTgiB Member

    @cosmicgate said: Pinhdom caught vps being down, open ticket. Provider denies it.

    pingdom is a big pile of crap, I do no accept it's results, show me something real for proof

  • AsadAsad Member

    Forgetting to update their websites.

    I haven't really found support to be an issue for any of the providers I've found on here.

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  • yomeroyomero Member

    @miTgiB said: pingdom is a big pile of crap, I do no accept it's results, show me something real for proof

    For example?

  • miTgiBmiTgiB Member

    @yomero said: For example?

    ping -c 5 or better results from some other location, and if I can then reproduce that from LA or Charlotte, or a traceroute that dies along the way, and please do not send screen shots, it's text, copy and paste it.

  • CloudxtnyHostCloudxtnyHost Member, Host Rep

    I'd have to agree with miTgiB. Several companies where I have managed the support departments have had problems with customers who "monitor ping" via pingdom.

    I'm sure if someone put together a really good multi location nagios cluster and then built a front end for it, it'd be far far better.

  • KuJoeKuJoe Member, Host Rep
    edited May 2012

    @cosmicgate said: Pinhdom caught vps being down, open ticket. Provider denies it.

    We had a client who opened a support ticket because Pingdom said their VPS was down WHILE THEY WERE LOGGED INTO IT! We use BinaryCanary for our own monitoring and it always proves Pingdom wrong.

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  • I personally use nagios for any monitoring.

  • subigosubigo Member

    @cosmicgate said: Pinhdom caught vps being down, open ticket. Provider denies it.

    The VPS being down or a service on your VPS being down? I get so many idiots complaining about Pingdom alerting them of their VPS being down and it turns out that they're just monitoring http and Apache crashed. Unless my Pingdom report for the entire node shows something, I'm not going to accept a client's report.

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @subigo said: The VPS being down or a service on your VPS being down? I get so many idiots complaining about Pingdom alerting them of their VPS being down and it turns out that they're just monitoring http and Apache crashed. Unless my Pingdom report for the entire node shows something, I'm not going to accept a client's report.

    You're lucky you don't use solusvm. Solus used to have a really brutal monitoring setup for graphs that had the master do all the pulls, instead of nodes doing push, and graphs were always missing tons of data, even on idle nodes.

    It still does it and people try to use the graphs at other hosts to claim SLA's, but at this point I don't think anyone trusts them.

    Francisco

  • KuJoeKuJoe Member, Host Rep

    @Francisco said: but at this point I don't think anyone trusts them.

    I stopped looking at SolusVM graphs last year. Complete waste of time. Every single one of our clients shows at least 1 Petabit of network transfer if you got 1-2 months back making the rest of the graph impossible to even read. Needless to say, we do not have a 1Pbps port on any of our servers.

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  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Veteran
    @KuJoe: We use BinaryCanary for our own monitoring and it always proves Pingdom wrong.

    I'd never heard of them until now - interesting. Why did you pick them?

  • KuJoeKuJoe Member, Host Rep

    @raindog308 said: Why did you pick them?

    I used them in the past when they first opened and when SD first started. Their monitoring and reporting are excellent and accurate. Their alerting is not so much, they'll send an alert almost 10 minutes after you tell them to so I only use them for monitoring and reporting and use my own systems for alerts.

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  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    Overselling is probably the most feared among the LEB buyers. If you want to generate a profit at low volume with the prices thrown around here, without owning your own hardware, overselling is probably the easiest way to do it and that can tempt people who get into this market.

  • beardbeard Member

    Lack of company structure / business sense / common sense

    "Hey I got a bright idea! Let's start up a hosting company, it'll be fun!"

  • KuJoeKuJoe Member, Host Rep

    @beard said: it'll be fun!

    And indeed it has! :D

  • JacobJacob Member

    Even without owning your hardware it is possible, There are many affordable server providers out there, VolumeDrive, DataShack, FDCServers, Worldstream.

    @jarland said: Overselling is probably the most feared among the LEB buyers. If you want to generate a profit at low volume with the prices thrown around here, without owning your own hardware, overselling is probably the easiest way to do it and that can tempt people who get into this market.

  • wickawicka Member

    @pioneernetworks said: What is one of the most common issues with vps providers?

    Host time not sync or timezone incorrect.
    There have two providers in my experience have this problem and solved until I submit a ticket to them.
    I just think they don't ensure this simple basic server environment is not acceptable.

  • KuJoeKuJoe Member, Host Rep
    edited May 2012

    @wicka said: Host time not sync or timezone incorrect.

    Host time not synced is a provider problem, incorrect time zone is not a providers problem.

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  • pcanpcan Member

    Most common issue is inconsistent network performance. On my experience, sometimes it start great and goes south; sometimes it start not so well but becomes better after some (usually well advertised) provider network upgrade. Second common issue: some OpenVZ providers have very old templates, or have "experimental" templates that never become standard, tested templates.

  • Mon5t3rMon5t3r Member

    @miTgiB said: pingdom is a big pile of crap, I do no accept it's results, show me something real for proof

    i couldn't agree more.

    sent an email notification for a server that doesn't have any issue, and did nothing when the server goes down. period.

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  • cosmicgatecosmicgate Member
    edited May 2012

    @KuJoe said: We had a client who opened a support ticket because Pingdom said their VPS was down WHILE THEY WERE LOGGED INTO IT! We use BinaryCanary for our own monitoring and it always proves Pingdom wrong.

    vps down. I had pingdom monitoring my services port at 15 mins interval and only notifies me if its down consecutively (30 mins), not http though.ssh is one of it.Explain that i could;t vnc and ssh to it. Provider still denies it.

    I noticed pingdom is not accurate, esp if it was to monitor europe location like germany, netherlands. Other locations they are quite accurate.

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @Jacob said: Even without owning your hardware it is possible, There are many affordable server providers out there, VolumeDrive, DataShack, FDCServers, Worldstream.

    Sure if you want a cookie cutter it. VD is 'kind of' a unique location given how hard it is to get stock and or a reply from support :P

    Francisco

  • DamianDamian Member

    We don't accept Pingdom complaints either. It shows a lot of drop-outs ( http://stats.pingdom.com/1bdrqltaboji/449948/2012/05 ) that I don't see mirrored on anything else we have.

    One of our VPS customer has a quite busy website that gets monitored with Pingdom, AND has an automatic script to email us when it's "down". When it's only "down" because he's using Apache with DSO or suPHP or something slow and it can't handle the load.

    We've tried selling him on our shared hosting, which for two dollars more per month, will handle hundreds of requests per second no sweat. We ended up having to add a filter to ignore his email.

  • KuJoeKuJoe Member, Host Rep

    @cosmicgate said: vps down. I had pingdom monitoring my services port at 15 mins interval and only notifies me if its down consecutively (30 mins), not http though.ssh is one of it.Explain that i could;t vnc and ssh to it. Provider still denies it.

    I noticed pingdom is not accurate, esp if it was to monitor europe location like germany, netherlands. Other locations they are quite accurate.

    I can't comment on other hosting providers but if you're not able to connect to your own VPS then that's usually a good sign that it's inaccessible, possibly even offline.

  • KuJoeKuJoe Member, Host Rep

    @Damian said: We ended up having to add a filter to ignore his email.

    LoL! I would have done the same thing. Crying wolf to many times will bite you in the arse, automating the calling of wolf is even worse!

  • KuJoeKuJoe Member, Host Rep
    edited May 2012

    @Aldryic LOL! (Image isn't working so here's a link: http://oglaf.com/wolf/)

  • AldryicAldryic Member

    aww, that's a shame. Here's the direct link: http://oglaf.com/media/comic/wolf.jpg

  • KuJoeKuJoe Member, Host Rep

    @Aldryic Direct link doesn't work either (adds a dozen or so slashes, probably to prevent hotlinking).

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