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BuyVM style VPSs but in Europe

pingopingo Member
edited September 2011 in General

Anyone has any similar & reliable offers like BuyVM. 128OVZ and stuff.
I mean on a budget around 10 EUR / year with servers located in Europe. I miss this offers in Europe.

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  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Provider

    There's lots in Europe, the thing is if they'll actually live out the year ;)

    Francisco

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  • They are not that cheap and reliable. Most offers on LEB are USA based. I now pay almost 60 EUR / year for OVZ 256/512/**/*** and it was one of the cheapest i could found on LEB for Europe. Well at least it is reliable. But i would be really glad to see BuyVM similar offers in Europe also.

  • InfinityInfinity Member, Provider

    The best I'd trust is QualityServers, they have BuyVM style deals every now and then.

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  • Expensive stuff :/ even with coupons from LEB

  • Pretty much. Bandwidth costs more in Europe. Or at least it seems like it to me.

    I think quickweb's cheapest was 33 for a year and I don't recall if that was dollars or euros.

  • Is cheaper if u want peering only bandwidth
    Is more expensive if you actually want something not outside that country

    Postgres

  • I think it's more the cost of power over here.

    Electricity here in the UK costs something like 150-200% the US price per KWH. I know France is heavily reliant on cheaper nuclear power, so perhaps that explains OVH's prices.

    +1 for Qualityservers though, I've not been a customer too long but I've been very happy with the service and the stability so far. They're not quite in the BuyVM pricing range, but they're not far off it. Pester Fran to get some EU nodes, he's been talking about it for a while, iirc.

  • You know there's a DC called OVH which is super cheap, and hetzner is also very cheap.

  • I've had good experiences with GoWEB :p

  • Thanks for the recommendations @Infinity and @Gary :)

    Power is a key concern in the UK for the reasons mentioned above, but also because of the pressure to be "green". Unforuntately, "green" power costs twice as much!

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  • @maxexcloo what is the website for goweb i find many on the web...
    @fan i am at hetzner right now but its not that cheap even OVH.co.uk has 15 GBP / month for 256MB VPS thats not cheap at all.

    maybe ill try this:
    UptimeVPS openvz (France)
    ~$13/Year (€9EUR) -- 384MB/384MB VSwap Ram -- 30GB HD -- 300GB/Month Bandwidth

  • Pretty much. Bandwidth costs more in Europe. Or at least it seems like it to me.

    It's not the bandwidth is the energy costs. Just compare the Brent with WTI for ordinary power plants and the age and security specifications of European nuclear plants with US based ones.

  • kylix said: It's not the bandwidth is the energy costs.

    It's neither, it's the high social program costs that make doing business in the EU unattractive.

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  • kylixkylix Member
    edited September 2011

    It's neither, it's the high social program costs that make doing business in the EU unattractive.

    That depends which country you mean in the EU. There are some countries that have decend social programmes and everybody is fine with that because it is normal. And secondly, the high social programme costs are in most times lowering the employers income not the income the company has. Especially in the IT-field you don't have minimum wages or collective labour agreements.

  • It's neither, it's the high social program costs that make doing business in the EU unattractive.

    If that would be the case, how come that especially the high-tax countries with these decend social welfare programmes do have the big companies: finland: nokia, norway: opera, sweden: mysql, germany: hetzner, france: ovh?

    La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée.

  • It's neither, it's the high social program costs that make doing business in the EU unattractive.

    Actually, dedicated servers are much more cheaper in the EU than in the US. How come?

  • @ pingo - try an OVH reseller rather than going directly with OVH. So, pretty much any provider in .fr

  • @Gary any links to the providers?

  • @komo eh not that cheap :S everything is 20+, 30+ EUR per year

  • dannixdannix Member
    edited September 2011

    I would recommend qualityservers. I've got 2 of their 128 mb/vswap for 15 gbp/year each. I'm not sure if their offer is still active, but if you are interested, you could take over one of them for a reduced price. Link to the offer http://www.lowendbox.com/blog/qualityservers-15year-128mb-openvz-vps-in-uk/

  • Qualityservers is quite nice, but if you intent to put your server offline for a few days it won't work. It will be re-started the next day. This is happening since I signed up with them. Very annoying if you use the VPS just for calculations and want to put if offline when not using it so it doesn't eat your bandwith.

  • kylix said: when not using it so it doesn't eat your bandwith.

    So, why will eat your bandwidth? ¬¬

  • Oh, so many one liners I could come up with....

  • Why on earth would you put it offline? What's going to eat your bandwidth if there's nothing running? :D

  • Thanks for the recommendation @dannix. I'm afraid that offer is sold out but LEA should post our next offer very shortly :)

    @kylix: Although I have to agree with @yomero about the bandwidth, if you want your VPS offline it should stay offline. Could you raise a ticket?

  • The GoWEB website is www.goweb.de :)

  • kylixkylix Member
    edited September 2011

    Why on earth would you put it offline? What's going to eat your bandwidth if there's nothing running? :D

    @Gary, @yomero: Why should I put a system online and expose it to the uncountable number of crackers searching for a target if I don't use it. And if I'm testing scripts with a webserver, should I put it offline but let the VPS online without any usage? Why? Maybe there is a loophole in some config I don't know about that might eat bandwidth. Why should I risk that without any need? I'm not so eager to have conversations about bandwidth-overuse as they might happen, proven by one or two threads here at LET.

    I also do switch my notebook off if I don't use it. Why not?

  • yomeroyomero Member
    edited September 2011
    1. Using it or not, if is online is exposed.

    2. Seems that you don't trust in your own knowledge about how to secure your machines =(

    3. The servers born to be operating 24/7 Or google shutdown their servers? o_O

  • Using it or not, if is online is exposed.

    Thats why I put it offline.

    Seems that you don't trust in your own knowledge about how to secure your machines =(

    I'm not allmighty nor am I a studied techie. I get along quite good with linux for the last 10 years but that's it. I don't have the time to suck up every bit of vulnerability news on hundreds of different feeds. Its my hobby, I have to work. I mainly rely on Debian to take care of loopholes with updates in time.

    The servers born to be operating 24/7 Or google shutdown their servers? o_O

    Who forces me to use a VPS as a server for the open public? The PC is named personal, but still used for business purposes. Then again, I don't intend to be Google. They do their job, I do my hobby.

  • Ok, do they start your server at a fixed time of day? If so - Just put a cron job which runs 2 minutes later and shuts it down.
    If you want it up - start it from the control panel and then login and disable the cronjob.

    -

  • @rds100: there should be no need for that. Please raise a ticket and we'll look into it.

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  • yomeroyomero Member
    edited September 2011

    rds100 said: Ok, do they start your server at a fixed time of day? If so - Just put a cron job which runs 2 minutes later and shuts it down.

    If you want it up - start it from the control panel and then login and disable the cronjob.

    Also, you can rely on the SolusVM API if you want, I don't know how much features you can handle with it, but I suppose that you can manage the boot and shutdown of your machine with a cronjob or script from another machine

  • @kylix you can probably turn off the networking and when you need the VPS again, you can connect to it via the SolusVM panel console and enable the network interface.

    @maxexcloo still expensive

  • kylixkylix Member
    edited September 2011

    you can probably turn off the networking and when you need the VPS again, you can connect to it via the SolusVM panel console and enable the network interface.

    Sure. That even takes more time and is even more ineffective when I just want the VPS to be off. I can also start making 30 turn-arounds, pray to the spaghettimonster, drink buttermilk and jump around my yard when I can also just take SolusVM and switch it off via one click. If I need it again I just click and its on again. Time saving. ;-)

  • @kylix
    more time? its 2 commands, 1 to disable and 1 to enable + you don't need to wait for VPS to boot. You can left it pretty much where you stopped working. I was just trying to suggest something good. no offense.

  • kylixkylix Member
    edited September 2011

    @pingo: No offense. But getting the console to work is kinda impossible. Or how do I get to know the password?

    console

    Besides the fact that it takes about 1 minute to load the console, then loggin in, etc. Its a nice idea, but it takes more steps and time then simply switching on/off.

  • Seems that you don't trust in your own knowledge about how to secure your machines

    Been doing this for more years than some of the providers here have been born and I don't trust my own knowledge.

    One of the reasons why I have a third party service doing support. We catch each other's mess ups.

  • So, you can just use SSH and not the freaking solus applet? Also, you can change the console password... :|

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  • @kylix the password for me is root's, despite the 6 characters long stars in the screenshot and you can even set it too. It loads the console at me in few seconds. Well suit yourself what is faster for you :)

    @yomero i was talking about turning off the networking, how are you gonna SSH into that from your client machine? The only way is SolusVM console, to turn on the networking. Or restarting the whole server again in SolusVM panel.

  • No, the vzconsole is an SSH session to the physical node, as the details are showed in solus... just try ¬_¬

  • Pain in the ass to keep starting it and stopping it. Just firewall everything off, so it can't even be accessed by anyone but you. That's what I do to my test boxes.

  • kylixkylix Member
    edited September 2011

    Pain in the ass to keep starting it and stopping it.

    Well, I'm quite fine with just clicking "stop" and "start". Actually, it takes about 5 seconds to be up.

    Just firewall everything off, so it can't even be accessed by anyone but you.

    I firewall my VPS but I'm rather comfortable by closing a windows instead of letting it open and putting a grill in front of it when I'm not at home. In the end its just me being a bit paranoid about security. But I don't want to be in a situation where I'm unable to react because of work when my hobby-VPS gets hacked. :)

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