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Why has SpamCop blacklisted Hotmail/Outlook?
Final-Recipient: rfc822;[email protected]
Action: failed
Status: 5.7.1
Diagnostic-Code: smtp;554 5.7.1 Service unavailable; Client host [65.55.111.173] blocked using bl.spamcop.net; Blocked - see http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?65.55.111.173
I feel this will cause havoc for certain businesses and comapanies thats hosting uses SpamCop.
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Comparing dicks with Microsoft?
Point.
CISCO isn't an asshole company FYI.
Spamcop is quick to list and quick to delist as well, which is something pretty effective to a great extent.
They have their own forums as well - http://forum.spamcop.net/forums/
I've been using Spamcop RBL and its really great.
inb4 someone calls me a cisco/spamcop shill.
Yes, one of the most common free email providers is blocked for anyone using that spamlist.
Care to share the goodside?
Hotmail/outlook can only blame themselves for not looking into RBL listings.
Anyway, spamcop is quick to delist. Looking at http://www.spamcop.net/w3m?action=blcheck&ip=65.55.111.173 , it says 6 hours to delisting.
For businesses, they have a different IP address and stuff.
90% of my spammer signups are coming from Outlook.com now. I have already blocked all the Yahoo domains, and Gmail is generally harder to automate signups.
Most of our internal filtering we run for clients is picking up mainly outlook.com addresses now. There's been a massive increase in the use of that domain to send spam in the last 3 months. So they bloody well SHOULD be listed, Microsoft need to sort their shit out. Tighten the registration process to make it harder would be a good start.
The onus of the listing of a domain is on the domain owner. They set the policies that their users are supposed to abide by, and have controls in place to monitor adherence to those policies. Gmail limit accounts to 500 emails sent in a 24 hour period. Outlook.com does not have a limit that I know of, or it is set too high.
Seems to be a bit of preciousness around LET about spam listings. I have never had to deal with listings of my own servers or domains. For some client domains, they have had the odd malware infection with machines relaying spam. It's actually a good thing because we can actually put in outbound SMTP blocking at the firewall which we do as a site audit when we take on a new customer. Usually they baulk at it, but within 6 months a number of RBL listings and emails not going through changes their tune.
I am never going to cry over a free email provider getting RBL listed. If you want your email to work then you pay for it, or set up a system that works and is configured correctly (rDNS, SPF records, firewall outbound :25 except for mail server). Most of the people here should not care, you would have a VPS performing mail duties for you.
No they don't - well not for the free accounts, maybe for 365?
domains.live.com is the reason I found out about the blacklist; I'd be even more pissed if I paid for 365 and then got bouncebacks.
Fair play, your a hosting company so can understand that but for client sites etc. I can gurantee a large number of average businesses web enquiries have dropped today/last few days due to this.
I was thinking of Spamhaus actually, i agree that Spamcom are the better guys.
If a business cannot afford 365, they need to reconsider their business plan.
Not arguing with you there, I agree
Usually it's not that. Most business owners are trying to cut as much cost as possible, some without knowing the risks/consequences.
QFTW!