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What's the best VPS server location for Philippines?

botsman28botsman28 Member
edited September 2011 in Help

Kindly help me in choosing what location should i choose and what virtualization.. thanks!

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  • for starters pick openvz, look for european location, closer=faster.
    for starters i would recommend u jumping on the 5 euro/year 128mb deal.

  • thanks for the help kristal and bolt, i got VPS in LA and Germany but i still cant get the speed and latency that i want. maybe ill try the one from India.

  • Isn't there a provider based in the Philippines that you could use?

  • Yeah, there are, but VPS in Asia are considerably expensive.

  • @drmike bolt is right, providers here are way expensive..
    @komo thanks for the suggestions..

  • @botsman28, make sure you do a traceroute to the test IP. It's not uncommon to see packets get routed to US between two Asian countries.

  • @komo That was 2010 lol

    • Malaysia & Singapore can be quite good... but are always expensive :-(
    • India's network is far to reach

    US west coast seems - as for a lot of us - your best choice.

  • yes most of the vps providers in Asia are very costly..
    @eLohkCalb yes, i'll keep that in mind..

  • Go59954Go59954 Member
    edited September 2011

    botsman28 said: but i still cant get the speed and latency that i want.

    Providers in West coast in the US probably meets your requirements, and if you are looking for closer, try searching for "Malaysia" & "Singapore" as well as "Indonesia" in WHT and LEB, since there where few budget VPS offers. And as eLohkCalb mentioned, try pinging time to their test IP.

  • @Go59954 thanks for your suggestion..

  • PhotonVPSPhotonVPS Member, Host Rep

    Have you looked for VPS in Australia yet?

  • botsman28botsman28 Member
    edited September 2011

    not yet, are there cheap VPS in Australia?

  • My suggestion is if you're not living in a country like China, find a local provider for the best local connectivity. Connectivity between continents may not always be perfect.

  • I'm in the Philippines (using PLDT), and European locations are usually the worst as they almost always get routed through the U.S. first.

    The best would be a California location. Even some Asian locations get routed to California first and then back to Asia.

    You could check out Lightwave.net or if you're on a tight budget BuyVM.net. They're located in San Jose, CA and I use them both. I strongly prefer Xen (which Lightwave uses), but that's just my thing.

    Traceroute from Philippines to Lightwave (~170ms)

    traceroute to lightwave.net (199.68.196.75), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
     2  119.93.254.241 (119.93.254.241)  15.367 ms  16.009 ms  15.730 ms
     3  210.213.131.34.static.pldt.net (210.213.131.34)  14.861 ms  15.727 ms  14.232 ms
     4  210.213.131.89.static.pldt.net (210.213.131.89)  14.397 ms  49.749 ms  15.681 ms
     5  210.213.128.137.static.pldt.net (210.213.128.137)  162.808 ms  163.592 ms  163.020 ms
     6  he.net.coresite.com (206.223.143.122)  167.929 ms  163.957 ms  192.972 ms
     7  10gigabitethernet7-3.core1.sjc2.he.net (184.105.213.5)  171.881 ms  172.976 ms  174.594 ms
     8  10gigabitethernet1-4.core1.sjc1.he.net (72.52.92.117)  172.382 ms  172.238 ms  172.118 ms
     9  energy-group-networks-llc.10gigabitethernet1-3.core1.sjc1.he.net (64.71.150.22)  176.794 ms  183.793 ms  172.609 ms
    10  AS18779-gw.Edge1.SJC1.Lightwave.Net (72.13.91.138)  171.720 ms  172.980 ms  171.900 ms
    11  www.lightwave.net (199.68.196.75)  171.866 ms !C  173.509 ms !C  173.824 ms !C
    

    Traceroute from Philippines to BuyVM (~170ms)

    traceroute to buyvm.net (205.185.112.61), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
     2  119.93.254.241 (119.93.254.241)  14.209 ms  15.278 ms  14.187 ms
     3  210.213.131.38.static.pldt.net (210.213.131.38)  15.806 ms  15.256 ms  16.415 ms
     4  210.213.131.93.static.pldt.net (210.213.131.93)  15.424 ms  14.291 ms  14.208 ms
     5  210.213.128.17.static.pldt.net (210.213.128.17)  163.791 ms  163.838 ms  164.481 ms
     6  he.net.coresite.com (206.223.143.122)  170.156 ms  163.441 ms  174.741 ms
     7  10gigabitethernet7-3.core1.sjc2.he.net (184.105.213.5)  175.065 ms  176.179 ms  175.331 ms
     8  10gigabitethernet1-4.core1.sjc1.he.net (72.52.92.117)  181.987 ms  182.363 ms  170.890 ms
     9  energy-group-networks-llc.10gigabitethernet1-3.core1.sjc1.he.net (64.71.150.22)  181.478 ms  177.645 ms  173.838 ms
    10  173.245.86.18 (173.245.86.18)  172.501 ms  172.588 ms  171.876 ms
    11  jael.billing.frantech.ca (205.185.112.61)  173.887 ms  176.441 ms  172.125 ms
    
  • thanks for the info david.. maybe i should try this.. are Xen faster than OpenVZ?

  • It's not necessarily faster. It's more about the memory management and the way memory is accounted for. Xen behaves more like a dedicated server regarding memory. I can run more on a Xen VPS with less memory than OpenVZ. I'd rather have a 512MB Xen VPS than a 4GB OpenVZ VPS.

  • I can run more on a Xen VPS with less memory than OpenVZ. I'd rather have a 512MB Xen VPS than a 4GB OpenVZ VPS.

    Actually its the other way around. Xen memory behaves like a real server, so if you hit the swap it slows down. With OpenVZ all your memory has the same speed. However, Xen is due to this fact more predictable when it comes to memory allocation.

  • kylix said: However, Xen is due to this fact more predictable when it comes to memory allocation.

    That is the point, I can run more in a Xen than in an OpenVZ too.

  • kylixkylix Member
    edited September 2011

    How does that make sense? With Xen you always have the OS overhead that eats up memory of your container. With OpenVZ not. So with the latter you can even go further your vmguarpages but only with luck, but you can. Xen would either swap and slow down or simply let the program die.

  • My typical nginx, php and mysql setup uses ~120mb ram on OpenVZ and less than 64mb ram on KVM/Xen/etc.

  • kylixkylix Member
    edited September 2011

    Right, because of the allocation. I doubt that that is the real usage. With OpenVZ this allocation in memory has the same speed through the whole allocation. With Xen the usage memory might increase up to the swap and the speed suddenly slows down. So you have different speeds in your memory used. As soon as the swap gets used the load goes up. This does not happen in OpenVZ.

  • But allocation matter in OpenVZ, not real memory, that is why OpenVZ SUCKS. How much overhead can take the OS? Less than 20MB in my experience. Also, I can disable swap, period.
    The new OpenVZ doesn't suck like the classic one.

  • ExpertVMExpertVM Member, Host Rep

    You should get decent speed for datacenters in Singapore & Malaysia. Thailand & Indonesia as well although they aren't as popular as the former.

  • Sorry, you won't find cheap VPS in Singapore. End of Story. Not sure about Malaysia though. Generally, Asia-Pacific(South-East-Asia) VPS's routed correctly should give you good ping times :)

  • But allocation matter in OpenVZ, not real memory, that is why OpenVZ SUCKS.

    That always depends on the purpose. As I said the allocation does not affect the load while Xen swapping affects the load. Its just how you want to plan ressources. From the node and from the domU point of view.

  • ExpertVM said: You should get decent speed for datacenters in Singapore & Malaysia. Thailand & Indonesia as well although they aren't as popular as the former.

    Forget about Thailand :-( and I have been looking for years now

  • best ping from a server I got is from India around 200ms.. how do I maximize the speed of VPS if I used it as VPN?

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