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Is corgitech = liteserver
cosmicgate
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and liteserver = corgitech?
liteserver
2 serverius.nikhef.openpeering.nl (82.150.157.137) 1.592 ms 5.894 ms 1.520 ms
3 10ge-3-3-0.br1.ams.we-dare.net (195.69.144.107) 1.548 ms 1.564 ms 1.550 ms
4 ar01-db01-ams.we-dare.net (92.48.225.35) 7.397 ms 7.269 ms 7.437 ms
5 rdns.yisp.nl (46.182.104.7) 1.660 ms 1.596 ms 1.565 ms
corgitech
2 serverius.nikhef.openpeering.nl (82.150.157.137) 2.317 ms 2.313 ms 2.246 ms
3 10ge-3-3-0.br1.ams.we-dare.net (195.69.144.107) 2.284 ms 2.281 ms 2.275 ms
4 ar01-db01-ams.we-dare.net (92.48.225.35) 2.258 ms 2.266 ms 2.258 ms
5 rdns.yisp.nl (46.182.104.7) 2.231 ms 2.226 ms 2.220 ms
Comments
or just same datacentre?
These are all sequence 2-5... is rdns.yisp.nl the end point? Or is this a VPS you're on? Or is this your home connection? It's quite normal for the first few sequences to be the same no matter what you're tracerouting.
They're all using the same datacenter? Corgitech and Yisp.nl seem to be using DATABARN for their NL location according to their websites, unsure about liteserver.
http://www.liteserver.nl/about-us/
rdns.yisp.nl (46.182.104.7) is the test file IP from corgi tech and yeah, its the end point
What is the test-ip from Liteserver and where did you get that from?
that ip was from corgitech's order page. It was their test IP. What i did was just trace route the ip from liteserver's vps and then trace route again from corgitech's vps. It got me confused for a while.
Yes the curse of not having your own ip subnets which is becoming harder to achieve.
Hell it's 1750 to start and 1250 a year for a /22(V4) and a /48(V6). It's not insanely burdensome, but billion dollar corporations are paying just 30,000 a year for their millions on millions of ip's. I think they could pay a bit more and lower the entry costs a little.
Can someone explain to me why IPs cost money to begin with?
They're a limited resource. Maintaining the ARIN database costs money. There are people involved in the process of handing out IP address - those people have to be paid. The whois servers have to be paid for. I could probably name a dozen more things that ARIN needs money for, but you should get the point...
http://www.ripe.net/lir-services/member-support/info/billing/billing-procedure-and-fee-schedule-for-lirs-2011
That alone is not a valid reason for something to cost money.
This I can understand, but if I see the amount of money people have to put on the table for a bunch of IPs, I'm really starting to wonder why it's so much. I'm pretty sure that they could easily assign IPs for far less money and still run fine, covering all costs involved.
As far as I remember LIR fee at RIPE are more or less the same since a few years. Price per ip increased because allocation/assignation size are smaller than before.
One PI /24 (or /23) assigned to an end user costs to a lir €50/year and end users are charged between 100 and 200€ year, PA addresses can cost less. The problem is that once the addresses are used you have less chance to obtain new assignations and this increase prices. The annual fee of 1350€ (if you are in the small size) for LIR seems fair to me...