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    lemlem Member
    edited April 2012 in General

    Last week @Boltersdriveer mentioned that a user should turn their dedicated server into a "LowEndServers Monitoring Project. lolololol."

    This had me thinking. I was already in the process of developing a simple server monitoring system for web hosting companies (which is 80% complete), so I thought I would deploy a alpha version as LowEndMonitor (LowEndMonitor.com) to monitor the uptime of each provider's primary website. Although it may not tell you the reliability of the provider's services, you can monitor their primary website and watch for those who approach the deadpool. (Aka, their website goes offline for a long period of time.) The monitor checks the websites every five minutes, but this can be adjusted to any measure.

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    • I like the idea.

      @lem said: to monitor the uptime of each provider's primary website.

      What about allowing hosts to provide you with an address to monitor?

    • InfinityInfinity Member, Provider
      edited April 2012

      Wow, you literally have 5 accounts here. Aside from that it's will be a good project provided the serveris up 100% of the time, which I'm doubtful of.

    • lemlem Member
      edited April 2012

      @Damian I would be up for that. I'm also open to removals if requested.

      @Infinity? Five accounts, like on LET? I have a second, more long term account, but I'm on a college computer at the moment which may explain that. We use a single IP for all outbound traffic.

    • InfinityInfinity Member, Provider
      edited April 2012

      @lem said: @Infinity? Five accounts, like on LET? I'm on a college computer at the moment...

      Ah, I see. Your college has 5 people signed up to LET :)

    • prometeusprometeus Member, Provider
      edited April 2012

      You have a SPOF in your project :)

      you need to use several probes and match results to be more credible... In essence you need to be more reliable than any provider.

      IperWeb & Prometeus, Hosting Provider since 1997. iwStack cloud infrastructure
    • lemlem Member
      edited April 2012

      @Infinity I would hope so. I did announce LEB/LET at a ACM Chapter meeting a while back. :-)

      @prometeus I understand. This is still a alpha version thought. Much room for improvement. I have a idea to remove the SPOF....I might implement it tonight.

    • I like the idea, but I believe this would require some whitelisting of ips. You show that we had downtime, and that is not the case.

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    • lemlem Member

      @speckl I noticed that several of those monitored had downtime from exactly 2:35AM to 3:00AM this morning and I'm investigating the logs.

    • @speckl @lem that's why you have to have redundant monitors that watch from hopefully different backbone providers. I use monitis and monitor my servers from3 stateside locations and one European location. It won't send me an alert unless all 4 fail a check. Got tired of the single monitors pinging me in the middle of the night for a non issue.

    • JackJack Member, Provider

      Nice idea , You should add more host's though.

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    • laaevlaaev Member

      Awesome idea, good job!

    • @lem said: I have a second, more long term account

      Why not simply use this account?

    • BTW, what does your monitoring software provide that others don't? Just curious.

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    • InfinityInfinity Member, Provider

      @raindog308 said: BTW, what does your monitoring software provide that others don't? Just curious.

      Lots of low end providers and their uptime in one place?

    • No, I mean he's developing a monitoring sw package. Why? What's unique about the monitoring software?

      I get the LEM idea...was asking about what's under the hood.

      For LET support, please visit the interim support desk.

      Over the past few months we have been met with many challenges within the moderation business. Some that have not been overcome.

    • Not to poop on your parade but http://sourceforge.net/projects/phpwatch/?_test=b is what I use and I run it on a LEB.

    • FranciscoFrancisco Top Provider

      @lem said: Last week @Boltersdriveer mentioned that a user should turn their dedicated server into a "LowEndServers Monitoring Project. lolololol."

      This was supposed to be setup on the old 4vps.com domain but the guy never delivered on it and disappeared. :P

      Francisco

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    • lemlem Member
      edited April 2012

      @raindog308 I just wanted simple and clean system, similar to Google's old status page. At first the "application" was designed to manually update the status, similar to Google's. Then I added in the server uptime check function. Next is multiple monitoring hosts, email/text notifications, etc. phpWatch is a great application, but it does not have a public frontend.

      The current version is not perfect, but then thats why its in alpha. I wanted to share it to get some feedback.

    • @prometeus said: You have a SPOF in your project :)

      you need to use several probes and match results to be more credible... In essence you need to be more reliable than any provider.

      If it's gonna be a simple monitor then SPOF doesn't matter. It's an app that resides on one server. If that server is down then the app isn't operational or reachable. What it (the app) should do (IMO) is always check/recheck that it's own connectivity is OK, before recording a target system as 'down'.

    • netomxnetomx Member, Moderator

      @Infinity said: Ah, I see. Your college has 5 people signed up to LET :)

      not cool if you can see our IPs

    • JackJack Member, Provider

      @netomx said: not cool if you can see our IPs

      Why He isnt going to post them publicly.

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    • Sounds interesting :) . Looking forward to its release.

    • @netomx said: not cool if you can see our IPs

      If you have a problem with forum moderators being able to see IPs, don't register on any forum.

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    • @netomx said: not cool if you can see our IPs

      Vanilla has this function by default.
      I see all of my users IP on my Vanilla Forums.

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    • prometeusprometeus Member, Provider

      @sleddog said: If it's gonna be a simple monitor then SPOF doesn't matter. It's an app that resides on one server

      it's not the server "in se" the spof, but the point of view. The server may be operational but network issue (inside the provider or with some upstream) can make your app "think" there are problems at the other end while in effect they are in the middle. If you can compare 3 carefully positioned probes, then you have a more accurate result.

      IperWeb & Prometeus, Hosting Provider since 1997. iwStack cloud infrastructure
    • Probably it would be a good idea to have a 3 server setup, with 2 monitoring servers and one front-end server. Only when the monitoring servers both report a website as down the frontend server should display it as down.

    • @dmmcintyre3 said: If you have a problem with forum moderators being able to see IPs, don't register on any forum.

      Or use a VPN.

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    • netomxnetomx Member, Moderator

      @dmmcintyre3 said: If you have a problem with forum moderators being able to see IPs, don't register on any forum.

      That's not the thing that I'm saying, he's not the owner, just a moderator, not even staff. that's why.

    • Being a moderator appointed by Chief doesn't count as staff?

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    • InfinityInfinity Member, Provider
      edited April 2012

      @netomx said: That's not the thing that I'm saying, he's not the owner, just a moderator, not even staff. that's why.

      Same thing should be said to the other moderators in that case. Same with most other forums too..

      @Aldryic said: Being a moderator appointed by Chief doesn't count as staff?

      Just what I was about to say.

    • netomxnetomx Member, Moderator

      @Infinity said: @netomx said: That's not the thing that I'm saying, he's not the owner, just a moderator, not even staff. that's why.

      Same thing should be said to the other moderators in that case. Same with most other forums too..

      I answer your PM, I hope you can understand it, though.

      @Aldryic said: Being a moderator appointed by Chief doesn't count as staff?

      Just what I was about to say.

      Sorry to not backup this idea. The only ones that I can trust, it is the "partners", not the forum moderator, I don't know if I explain it alright. But we have PM and I hope he can get my idea.

    • bretonbreton Member
      edited April 2012

      @dmmcintyre3 said: If you have a problem with forum moderators being able to see IPs, don't register on any forum.

      I can also add, that if you are afraid about your ip, you shouldn't visit any site, because apache and nginx log your every move. As well as google analytics and other stuff.

      I cannot also understand, why do you care about all these ips. 89.146.89.139 is mine, feel free to do whatever you want.

      Also,
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      BTW, now everyone, who opens the thread, gets logged on my VPS. Surprise!

    • @breton said: BTW, now everyone, who opens the thread, gets logged on my VPS. Surprise!

      HACKER.

    • netomxnetomx Member, Moderator

      @breton said: I can also add, that if you are afraid about your ip, you shouldn't visit any site, because apache and nginx log your every move. As well as google analytics and other stuff.

      breton, is not the machine logging IPs, is that persons can actually see our personal information, not the owner. But as you said, the thread has been gone elsewhere. Please stick to it, or open a new thread for it. I will not do it.

    • @netomx said: is that persons can actually see our personal information

      You need to understand that only staff members appointed by the owner can see it. Not everyone. This is not a big deal.

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    • @prometeus said: it's not the server "in se" the spof, but the point of view. The server may be operational but network issue (inside the provider or with some upstream) can make your app "think" there are problems at the other end while in effect they are in the middle.

      That why I said:

      What it (the app) should do (IMO) is always check/recheck that it's own connectivity is OK, before recording a target system as 'down'.

      The app could check high-availability targets like google.com and twitter.com to determine if it's own connectivity is OK. If it's not, then it sleeps until connectivity is restored rather than recording false downtime for targets.

      Yes, multiple probes would probably be better. And failover for viewing the status site. But all that takes it beyond "simple" :)

    • lemlem Member

      @gsrdgrdghd Your recommendation is one of the available options that I am currently reviewing.

      @sleddog Already underway as the temporary solution.

      @ALL Thank you for your feedback!

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