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Openvpn speeds from eastern Europe from various providers

kendidkendid Veteran
edited March 2012 in General

I know there are many of us using our VPS as a VPN... For those of us on this side of the world, here's my compiled list of various providers I currently have and usual speeds through OpenVPN. I've put them in order of my favorites for this purpose -- some are more consistent than others with their speeds, which is great for Hulu/Netflix etc...

(note: the order is completely subjective, however data is correct)

TinyVZ (Ramhost) Kansas - $15/yr - Ping 196ms - Typical speed 8.5 Mbps (up to 10-11Mbps!)
Securedragon - $12/yr - Ping 180ms (230-250 after move) - Typical speed 6.0 Mbps (very steady speed)
Quickweb (Washington DC) - $85/yr - Ping 165ms - Typical speed 9.5 Mbps (reliable, but more pricey)
Hostigation (SC) - $20/yr - Ping 185ms - Typical Speed 7.0 Mbps (newer to me, so far so good!)
123Systems (Kansas) - $10/yr - Ping 194ms - Typical speed 8.0 Mbps (also newer, hasn't earned their wings yet!)
Quickweb (Dallas) - $30/6mos - Ping 200ms - Typical speed 8.5 Mbps (dropped due to price - worked well)
Alienlayer (NYC) - $15/yr - Ping 155ms - Typical speed 5.0 Mbps (dropping on renewal - tun/tap keeps dying on two servers when they restart-then openvpn doesn't startup properly)
BuyVM (Calif) - $15/yr & 35/yr - Ping 220ms - Typical speed 0.5-5.0Mbps (varies wildly)
Basshost (Kansas) - $24/yr - Ping 198 - Typical speed 6.0 Mbps (dropped last month as they were not able to re-enable tun/tap properly after an outage - money was completely refunded)

The only one I was surprised with was Buyvm, but take into consideration they are located on the other side of the USA. I've been working on this with them and have received several new ip addresses over the past months with no positive resolve. There is a rumour they are looking at opening up on east coast -- once that helps I'll be jumping on them again... My west coast servers (2x128, 1x256) will be going to the wayside as they are pretty much unusable for streaming video...

Securedragon was a positive surprise! For $12/yr that is a perfect solution for VPNing! (also have a $18/yr server with them with similar data)

Take note that these are simply used for Openvpn -- I'm sure for webhosting or other services, there will be different results for each provider.

Hopefully that helps some of you on this side of the world as you decide who would work best for you and your VPN needs! If others are using different providers (from Europe to America), I'd be interested in knowing what speeds/pings/prices you are getting...

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  • is that speedtest from your vpn or from the vps itself? i know for itself the openvpn tun/tap device has some sort of speed limitation.

    Load 3 user on your openvpn and download 100mb file simultaneously and report back what is the ram usage of each one of your vps.

  • kendidkendid Veteran

    That is from my desktop, connected through OpenVPN...

  • pretty good.

  • vedranvedran Veteran

    Are those upload/download speeds or both? What's your home connection speed?

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran
    edited March 2012

    BuyVM has a problem with BW from the discussions here. It looks like they buy it expensively and this is why they dont allow high BW usage software that could use the BW they offer. That might explain the big variations you encounter.
    Because, apart from ping, if they are well connected and with plenty of BW, normally there should be no variation in BW or lower than expected throughput, regardless of location because at your end it looks like there are no problems since you tested in many locations already.
    M

  • rds100rds100 Member
    edited March 2012

    @Maonique this is not necessarily true.
    If you make several speed tests to different (non-congested) locations the results would be like this:

    • 1st (fastest) - to your country
    • 2nd - to somewhere in west europe
    • 3rd - to USA east coast
    • 4th - to USA west coast
    • 5th (slowest) - to Australia, Asia, etc.
  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran

    In my case it might not be relevant, I have consistent 10 Mbps+ in all locations, including in islands in pacific.
    For example, in Frankfurt I have like 20 Mbps, paris about same, in US always 15+ or so, regardless of coast, but it does vary in ping A LOT ! I mean, from 70 to like 250, that could account for some weird routing inside US, but the speed is consistent, tested to speedtest.net servers. When I go home will put some results and will also try some traces, see what i can come up with because I didnt do this "scientifically" yet, just an observation of mine.
    M

  • kendidkendid Veteran

    @vedran These are download speeds... My connection is 22 Mbps

  • gsrdgrdghdgsrdgrdghd Member
    edited March 2012

    I agree with the BuyVM speed problems...
    image (from western europe)

    Do you have a speedtest with your Securedragon VPS?

  • @Maounique said: BuyVM has a problem with BW from the discussions here. It looks like they buy it expensively and this is why they dont allow high BW usage software that could use the BW they offer. That might explain the big variations you encounter.

    Please don't libel a company you have no personal experience with. All plans are guaranteed the full amount of bandwidth they pay for.

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  • @Aldryic said: All plans are guaranteed the full amount of bandwidth they pay for.

    Truth has no place in @Maounique tin foil laced conspiracy theory. Move along now.

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran
    edited March 2012

    And I am also saying clearly I had no experience with BuyVM, but I made some deduction by their attitude here and the libel they were using to cover up something (couldnt find any reasonable explanation for the unprovoked attacks against high BW apps that were not using much else).
    That is no proof, nor did I say so, it is my opinion and it looks like the right one, cause there are others with speed problems that could be used to support my theories.
    I would say, there are more than 50% chances to be right, even tho I had no personal experience with them.
    With 2 Mb in total, there are many chances ppl will not use their BW.
    M

  • @Maounique cut the crap, please :) 90% of their users are Chinese who use their VPS for a simple VPN and nothing more - i.e. exactly for a high bandwidth app that uses almost no other resources.

  • @Maounique said: I had no personal experience with them.

    Grabs decoder ring

    I haven't a clue wtf I'm talking about, but if I say it enough times it will become true.

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran
    edited March 2012

    @rds100 said: 90% of their users are Chinese

    Hum, well, now I might not have direct experience, but you certainly know a lot even for someone that would have direct experience :P
    I doubt a lot they have so many chinese customers given the obstacles in signing up they put. And with that I do have direct experience, however, I am not sure you are not right, but chances are slim :P
    M
    P.S. Care to put some speedtest up to prove their speed is great ? We have some of the others, now it is time for the lynch-mob to strike, miTgiB is already on the barricades, come on, fox, put up the speedtests :P Nobody is allowed to talk bad of BuyVM, with direct experience or not...

  • @Maounique said: the libel they were using to cover up something (couldnt find any reasonable explanation for the unprovoked attacks against high BW apps that were not using much else).

    We have nothing against high-bandwidth apps. What we do avoid is scenarios that lead to a pain in the ass for us with very little/nothing to gain.

  • rds100rds100 Member
    edited March 2012

    @Maounique i just guess, but usually my guesses are not too far away from the truth :) USA west coast is very popular for chinese users trying to bypass the GFW.

  • @Aldryic said: What we do avoid is scenarios that lead to a pain in the ass for us with very little/nothing to gain.

    This makes you a bad human being! You need to take it in the shorts cause... I don't know why!

    :X

  • @rds100 said: i just guess, but usually my guesses are not too far away from the truth :) USA west coast is very popular for chinese users trying to bypass the GFW.

    Not quite 90%, but still a significant amount considering how many clients we have. Just in the past year, almost 2000 signups from CN clients, and over 1800 of those are still active w/ services.

  • @Aldryic OK i was a little exaggerating with that 90% ;-)

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran
    edited March 2012

    VPN are not high BW apps if the BW in China is low (68th in the world at average net speed). Also, ppl do not run P2P apps over VPN, as such, they probably watch news a couple of hours a day at most, that hardly reaches even 1 Mbps. Blogging, mail, etc, doesnt matter.
    But, I dont see the great speedtests. So far we only have 2 ppl with direct experience posting bad speed results, nobody from the lynch-mob yet ?
    M
    P.S.

    @Aldryic said: What we do avoid is scenarios that lead to a pain in the ass for us with very little/nothing to gain.

    That doesnt justify libel in no way shape or form.

  • @rds100 said: @Aldryic OK i was a little exaggerating with that 90% ;-)

    lol, I figured :3 I am curious to know what the actual percentage is now, though... I'll run some reports this evening and find out :P

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran
    edited March 2012

    Well, I am curious too, however, this cant change the basic fact that VPNs used by Chinese ppl from China are NOT high BW hogs. And this was rds100's argument, we are not debating if the poison was a lot or just a little, we debate the fact if it was poison or not.
    M

  • kendidkendid Veteran

    @gsrdgrdghd Numbers listed are from speedtest...

    Securedragon averages around 6.0Mbps consistently

  • I don't consider honest clients to be poison at all.

    In any case, none of that changes the fact that our entire setup is based around providing exactly what each plan offers. I can think of 4 clients by name off the top of my head that consistently use 1-3TB a month easy, and occasionally have to purchase 1TB bandwidth addons to account for their growing projects.

    Rough estimate, I'd say we have about 80-120 clients (if not more) that purchase bandwidth addons after utilizing all the bandwidth listed for their plan. That would be a rather difficult feat to accomplish if we were truly overselling bandwidth.

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran
    edited March 2012

    80-120 ppl that use their bw and thousands that dont, then it is exactly why you CAN oversell BW.
    I still dont see speedtests.
    M
    P.S. > @Aldryic said: I don't consider honest clients to be poison at all.
    It was a hint to a frequent advice given to libel specialists. In our case would be a red herring more appropriate, but the advice was like this:
    Say x died because y poisoned him. If you say that, y will probably be able to prove easily he didnt do it, but if you also say the poison was a green powder, then the discussion suddenly involves a green powder and will be difficult to be proven the non-existant poison wasnt a green powder.
    Here some ppl say speed in BuyVM is suprisingly bad and give some proof. I come up with my earlier deductions that BuyVM has a bw problem and they say it cant be that because VPN is a high BW app used by the chinese to bypass the GFW and many customers are Chinese. We suddenly debate how many customers are chinese and if VPN used by chinese is indeed a high BW app or not. Do you see how easy is to change the direction of the discussions and not come up with speedtests instead ?

  • kendidkendid Veteran

    @Maounique I don't think there's any conspiracy with BuyVM. I was getting around 7.0Mbps on one of their VPS's, which dropped when the IP address got re-assigned...

    However, if I wear a tinfoil hat, hostigation ping rate drops by 3 ms!!! <j/k>

  • @Maounique said: then it is exactly why you CAN oversell BW.

    Oh, I'm sure we could. But if we upped every plan's bandwidth to match what we could actually offer, let alone oversell... well, nobody would believe the figures.

    You can believe what you wish, but the bottom line is every plan we have could consistently max their bandwidth, and that would still be just a drop in the bucket.

  • @kendid said: if I wear a tinfoil hat, hostigation ping rate drops by 3 ms!!!

    That's huge since there is little room to go lower, my results without tin foil hat.

    --- buyvm.net ping statistics ---
    25 packets transmitted, 25 received, 0% packet loss, time 24009ms
    rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 8.919/9.268/9.921/0.283 ms
    [tim@e3la02 ~]$ 
    
  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran
    edited March 2012

    Well, probably within the same DC you can get better ping and great BW.
    However, I saw a 2 Mbps from western europe, while the lowest plan is 500 GB, with that rate it will be 320 GB if run continuously, which is usually hardly the case (unless Tor or something, which is banned, as you know even as non-exit node that wouldnt make any problems at all except BW ones).
    If you can use 500 GB in the same DC or town, but not around the world even when running at max continuously, then, no, that doesnt count as "maxing out BW".
    M

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