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For best privacy - Austria, Switzerland or Sweden?
Hi everyone,
I am planning to get an EDIS.AT KVM for a personal blog. This blog contains nothing offensive or illegal, but I want it to be outside of my home country (Germany) and am looking for the best privacy options. I am not sure which of those 3 countries offers the best circumstances concerning privacy, free speech and non-censorship. Any suggestions?
Cheers & thank you in advance!
Amitz
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Nazi related stuff would be a big NO in Austria (as well as in Germany). Not sure about other freedom of speech things.
Keep in mind that unlike your home-country (Germany) those other countries have some kind of data retention act.
There are other anti-freespech laws, such as denying something, or if it looks like denying. As a person of armenian descent I think the french law against genocide denying is pathetic and doesnt help anyone, it's just a nail in the coffin of free speech which many governments try to burry these days.
I would suggest to make an anonymous free hosting account if you will talk of something forbidden by cults and different pressure groups with lots of money. Use Tor and change identity after each post. Keep backups, get your own free domain like me.mooo.com which you can easily point to another host and is hard to shutdown without a real cause.
M
Denying the Holocaust is illegal in all parts of Europe pretty much.
It doesnt matter what free-speech blocking law you come across, that setup should work on keeping the anonymity and acessability of the site (with a few hiccups, of course, whenever a host takes it offline for some reason).
M
Just to avoid any misunderstanding: I am not planning to write anything controversial. So you may safely leave this out. No racism, no hate, nothing. It is just about privacy in general. If I already take a server that is not located in my own country, then I just do not want to have it somewhere where the legal situation is even worse. Do you get my point?
Not really, but if you do want to prove how total privacy works, an extreme setup like that is the perfect example. Nobody will know who you are and even where you live. Instead of relying on the law to protect your privacy, better make it sure it doesnt come to that. Governments cant be trusted to uphold the law when it is against their interests. Even in EU.
M
@Amitz also German, having similar problems, if you want some tips write me a PM in German
Only for privacy take Edis and Austria, that's their own Datacenter... if you're hosting in Switzerland or Sweden Edis must give your data out if there is a court order in these countries and Austria...
For Nazi-Content take Edis and the US.
Wouldn't take Sweden because they will start with the Vorratsdatenspeicherung at may - but not sure if Pionen will also do that
Isn't that only about storing the dynamic IPs of DSL customers for 6 months?
Always expect tracing laws to get broader interpretation than initially intended by the lawmakers. It WILL happen, once they start, there is no end unless the law is abolished.
M
I would be interested to see how would that work in practice without hindering any fair usage.
M
Why did you assume he was going to be posting Nazi stuff ?
So no freespeach in the EU anymore
. You can host a Anti-holocaust website in the UK though..
I didn't. I was just pointing out that freedom of speech is "except ...."
Yes i know anti-holocaust websites can be hosted here. There is nothing wrong with them in my personal opinion, everyone is entitled to there own view, and as providers its not for us to decide such things.
i heard sweden isn't bad. someone should fact-check tho
Eu already signed ACTA
http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/networking/2012/01/26/uk-signs-acta-as-activists-urge-resistance-40094914/
Starting ACTA will not produce to much but after year or two privacy will be invaded partilly or full.
Just saying.
"However, the signatures of the EU member states and the EU itself will count for nothing unless the European Parliament gives its approval to ACTA in June"
You should rather read the whole article than just the headline
By the way, China has good freedom of speech too. Except for some 2 million topics ;-)
Most ME countries are fine too, (As long as you dont insult them)
yes i red full post and couple others that day
Finland and Norway was ranked as #1 on press freedom, Estonia (bit of a surprise) is number 3.
http://en.rsf.org/press-freedom-index-2011-2012,1043.html
As @marinated said, what's about Estonia? -> http://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/1932/torqhost.com-massive-discounts.-1gb-ram-30-gb-disk-500gb-traffic-5.12#Item_2
From marinated's list, Austria looks best out of my choices...