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12 $ per year VPS??? How is this possible?

I see one provider is offering 12 $ per year vps with 256 mb ram.

I am told that a dedicated server has maximum 32 IPs and a lowest possible dedicated server would cost at least 50 $ a month. So here are some calcultions:
50*12 = 600 $ per year

A dedicated server has maximum 32 IPs so the vendor can sell maximum 32 accounts because each VPS needs a unique IP So:
12*32 = 384 $ per year

So they are paying atleast 600 $ for only dedicated server and I am not even adding the solusVM lease. They will only sell maximum of 32 accounts and make 384 $ in one year. So aren't they selling at a loss?

Comments

  • Tenshi_420Tenshi_420 Member
    edited December 2013

    32 isn't the limit for a server.
    From what I know from a old friend he had almost 300+ IPs and he only had 2 or 3 Dedi's ...

    Buying bulk usually cheaper than buying a few items (I'm assuming but it works like that in the global market. Maybe IPs are the same)

  • budi1413budi1413 Member
    edited December 2013

    The power of oversell.

  • @Tenshi_420 said:
    32 isn't the limit for a server.

    What is the limit then? I called ovh and they said all their dedicated servers have IP limit of 32.

  • @stallion Not everyone gets their dedicated servers from OVH. In theory, you could bind an entire /8 to a server if you wanted to. It would probably be somewhat inefficient and taxing on the node though.

  • Magiobiwan said: In theory, you could bind an entire /8 to a server if you wanted to.

    What does that mean? Can you translate it into noob friendly language? :D
    Which provider would you recommend? I need dedicated server for VPS hosting.

    Thanks

  • With $110-ish I could get a bunch of IPs and OH server (before) and make medium profits if you have it set up really well. But its always risky both with clients and attackers (abuse and Ddos)

    But that shouldn't scare you away.

  • We can put as many IPs on a dedicated server as you like :)

    It's just a matter of cost, justification etc.

  • IPs are fairly cheap when purchased directly from ARIN. I can't recall the exact price but they're cheaper than the $1-2 that most DC sell them to you at.

  • @skybucks100 said:
    IPs are fairly cheap when purchased directly from ARIN. I can't recall the exact price but they're cheaper than the $1-2 that most DC sell them to you at.

    $100/year per allocation.

  • @Virtovo said:

    I was only told some brief info about it, is that almost like a set up fee and that you pay for the actual allocation too? Or is that for the allocation altogether?

  • netomxnetomx Moderator, Veteran

    @Virtovo said:

    LACNICs requires $1000 per /21

  • LACNICs requires $1000 per /21

    /21 is 5K IPs? I forgot (im mobile)

  • netomxnetomx Moderator, Veteran

    @Tenshi_420 said:

    /21 is 5K IPs? I forgot (im mobile)

    2048

  • We can run an offer like we do as we do not include individual IPv4 on our cheap yearly EU VPS; only IPv4 NAT.

  • @stallion said:
    What is the limit then? I called ovh and they said all their dedicated servers have IP limit of 32.

    Nope, with new OVH 2014 servers you can order upto 16 Failover IPs + 256 Ripe Failover IPs.32 was limit with their 2013 SP model servers, with others it was always 64 to 128 IPs

  • I don't understand. Is ovh.com and ovh.co.uk same company? The packages on both sites seem differant.

  • IP cost less if you rent/buy in bulk. Sometimes as low as few cents per month.

    Contact Colocrossing for more info :D

  • Shoaib_AShoaib_A Member
    edited December 2013

    @stallion said:
    I don't understand. Is ovh.com and ovh.co.uk same company? The packages on both sites seem differant.

    They are same let me explain it a bit for you

    http://www.ovh.com/fr/index.xml ---This is their main website for their Europe DCs pricing is in Euros.

    http://www.ovh.ie/---Same as above, originally it was for Irish customers only but now its for English speaking customers & those people from Europe who need support in their native languages.

    http://www.ovh.co.uk/---Same as above but for customers who are from UK only & pricing is in GBP as well.

    http://www.ovh.com/us/index.xml---This is their main website for US DC pricing is in USD but OVH's new 2014 model servers are not available there yet.

    Other than that they have some country specific websites like http://www.ovh.de/ http://www.ovh.es/ etc

  • @Sledger said:

    Alongside that they also operate the Kimsufi and SoYouStart brands in a similar structure as the main sites.

  • Shoaib_AShoaib_A Member
    edited December 2013

    @wych said:

    Exactly & they do have links to those specific websites on their dedicated servers page to make things easier for those who are looking for budget offers or don't know about them as there are still truckloads of people who have not heard of SYS yet or don't kow what its also an OVH brand

  • @stallion said:
    I see one provider is offering 12 $ per year vps with 256 mb ram.

    Do you mean http://oneprovider.com/ ?

    If so where do you see the deal?

  • @rmlhhd said:
    If so where do you see the deal?

    I think they mean a LEB providers yearly deals (one provider as in a specific provider rather than OneProvider.com).

  • @Virtovo said:
    $100/year per allocation.

    It is most certainly not "$100/year per allocation.".

  • @Microlinux said:
    It is most certainly not "$100/year per allocation.".

    My post was mistakenly referring to the legacy maintenance fee.

    Fee schedules are here for any other reference: https://www.arin.net/fees/fee_schedule.html

  • perennateperennate Member, Host Rep
    edited December 2013

    QuickPacket recently decreased their charges for additional IP addresses, they're pretty cheap now. With (probably) all providers, you'll have to fill out forms with justification and previous usage.

  • @skybucks100 said:

    IPs aren't technically "owned" anymore unless you have an old legacy IP block. With ARIN in particular, you pay a "membership fee" based on the total amount of IP space you have with them. This membership fee isn't a "purchase fee" it's more or less a maintenance fee assessed to you based on what you have on-lease from ARIN. Unless you give them a reason to revoke the IPs they are yours, but they do hold the power to revoke IP allocations if absolutely necessary.

  • AlexanderMAlexanderM Member, Top Host, Host Rep

    @Virtovo said:

    ARIN is $500/year for a /22, so 4 cents an IP/month,

  • @AlexanderM said:
    ARIN is $500/year for a /22, so 4 cents an IP/month,

    There are other fees involved.

  • WebProjectWebProject Host Rep, Veteran

    @budi1413 said:
    The power of oversell.

    Not only and power of incorrect maths and such hosts are disappearing very quickly from the market, the same as some Ebay sellers - selling on the ebay at loss

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