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Protonmail has always been misleading ignorants on security and encryption.
They also lie to their paid users when asked how they stealth filter messages. Eventually when there are too many evidences, they say they will change nothing and will keep their reliance on third parties.
Oh, and it's 2021 and none of their service is reachable via IPv6.
As it is, they are not much different from Gmail, Outlook, etc.
I guess for real private email you'll need to run your own email server on a dedicated server you control yourself completely.
Anyone interested on distributed encrypted mail/message system? I mean there will be servers (also pc clients) called A,B,C and etc all those share every copy of encrypted mails, the only one with key can see the content of mail. Probably the same way usenet operates, but for mail/message... Just starting out an idea...
good idea.
That is hardly "real private email". SMTP is a completely plain text protocol. Your emails travel along the Internet with zero encryption. You need to encrypt on the client before they are sent. So a "real private email" solution has nothing to do with the mail server.
Well, you could do that with USENET today or really any forum software.
Again, the technology to encrypt on the client exists - PGP and other products. It's making it convenient that is the trick.
Absolutely true and actually that is pretty odd, isn't it? You'll need either PGP or S/MIME end-to-end encryption and if used, the email provider matters less.
BTW, I am the author of FairEmail, which provides both encryption methods ;-)
Again, the technology to encrypt on the client exists - PGP and other products. It's making it convenient that is the trick.
sure you can
but i mean it more complex, like servers, pc´s connected each other distributing themself mails/messages, some new protocol opened at specific port, easily could also be operated thru vpn/tor...
The best way to secure your email privacy is by hosting it yourself, on some encrypted server. And messages would need to be encrypted too (PGP as advised) for best security.
Funny side note: There exists email sending & receiving with TLS, even two different ways (yet something else that's confusing users ...) but TLS happens to be a very expensive thing to use (in terms of processor cycles) some providers (probably many, maybe even most; me not know, never checked many providers) do not, even if possible (supported by the other side) use TLS. Not bad will, but makes sense I guess from their perspective because they don't receive and send a couple of emails per day but 5 - 7 digit numbers of emails.
To say "just use PGP" is more attractive because that shifts the expensive computations away from them and to the users.
Almost every large / well-known email provider supports or requires SMTP over TLS / SSL both between clients and between other SMTP servers (along with IMAPS and POP3S).
The problem is more in the long tail of smaller providers and business that haven’t upgraded or don’t care about enabling it.
Virtually all email providers provide secure connections between server and client, but server-to-server communication is another story like @raindog308 correctly pointed out, as there are still no guarantees.
Note that STARTTLS is less safe than SSL/TLS, although a decent email client will prevent downgrading to a not encrypted connection. Related article:
https://www.eff.org/nl/deeplinks/2018/06/announcing-starttls-everywhere-securing-hop-hop-email-delivery
The port numbers almost always determine the encryption protocol (SSL/TLS or STARTTLS):
If your provider supports pure SSL/TLS (port 465 and port 993) better use it!
This is what lawyers DO. And now, it's kind of ok with the current supreme court (ie, the fucking Texas anti abortion law).
And my point is, what resolution or action can a Judge take after the gag order is served? "Judge, it's a gag order, I literally said nothing". What is "winning" in such a case? It would be Streisand effect(-ing) themselves.
Well, if you want to go with a totally "secure" email service with no logging even under court orders, go ahead. Just don't be surprised to find out it was a joint operation between the US, Australia and Interpol three years later.
Lavabit is still around, it had the balls to cease operation rather than surrender emails back in 2013, but not too sure If it's rebirth version is still the same.
Why is that case becoming so popular? Protonmail itself has a transparency report for every single time they provide information to authorities due to a request, this is not the first time it happens or the last time it will happen
https://protonmail.com/blog/transparency-report/
Email is just insecure by its nature and you will always have to trust the email company
Protonmail is still far better then Gmail and other mainstream alternatives, at least it doesn't read your emails to target you with advertisements, but as a rule of thumb, I wouldn't blindly trust anyone
The people's response in spite of this is how you know they're fucking idiots.
You could fake your death and live as somebody else.
Good luck getting any government services or amenities, or even passing background checks for jobs (you'll eventually need them at some point).
Just fake your death and commit identity theft bro, its so easy to do
I guess it could be doable. I have a friend who lived till the age of 42, without an ID card. He only had a birth certificate with which was registered at his family doctor. No bank account, monthly salary just in cash, nothing on his name, and that was about it. He finally took his ID simply because he wanted to get married - the things men do for women. Anyway, if this was possible without any official pictures, I am thinking stealing or buying a different identity could also be possible.