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IMO, being vaccinated does not mean you're immune to Covid.
It's just to minimize the critical effects of Covid so you don't get really sick.
Even after 2 doses, you can still be infected, especially within 14 days of the 2nd dose.
it was like 5 months after, but yeah, it felt like a cold instead of fucking dying.
We have a few hospitalized here that were vaccinated. Only one on a ventilator.
similar to what I've heard, it's usually the older folks too with compromised immune systems.
Same here. Many in hospitals, some in intensive care but nobody dead after 2 vaccines, so I guess it does its job well for those that could have died otherwise.
That does seem to be the growing sentiment. I'm observing to see if I agree. It's looking good so far. But for a virus that ranges from "didn't know I had it" to "died on a ventilator" it's hard to say with absolute certainty what would have happened to anyone.
I'm 23 and was still drinking and shit, literally just felt like I had a cold, it wasn't remotely near death.
Those who got Covid before vaccine and still alive much more safe for now.
I think the third wave has just started in our place. My neighbour who got both doses of Covishield in March and June has been admitted in hospital due to breathing issues.
More than 50% are tested positive out of 218 samples checked yesterday. Test positivity rate is very high. It's spreading so fast.
Within 2 days, signs like throat pain, body pain appears followed by high fever. My relatives (note they are Vegetarians) who took even both doses of vaccine says that they cannot cope with the body pain. A few says that they cannot breathe well while sleeping and they have to sit and pass the whole night.
I've read confirmed news from across various Nations and WHO guidelines and advice too that includes following:
above are my personal opinions from news and info gathered from internet and not a medical advice.
It varies. As you noted efficacy decreases as time goes on, so may reduce from say 70-80% effective for symptomatic infection to 50-60% after ~8 months. However, it's still greatly more effective when looking at hospitalisations and deaths.
tl;dr is masks and washing hands and avoiding unnecessary close contact is still a good idea once double jabbed. Annual boosters are likely.
... for the eldery and people with weak immune system. For everybody else, cellular immunity will likely be enough for a long, long time. People might get sick, but it's going to be asymptomatic or mild in most cases. Antobodies will die off at some point, but T & B cells are here to stay!
The MHRA in the UK are yet to decide if they will offer boosters to people not in the priority groups.
I think it is likely they will make it available to people who want it - possibly paid like how you can pay to get the annual flu jab if not strictly required.
I have gotten the first/main variant and the Delta variant. Both from restaurant waiters and restaurants taking proper precautions (being sarcastic if you can't tell).
The first one was before I got the vaccine and the Delta variant was when I had the vaccine and in London.
I will say that my time was a lot easier when I had the vaccine (even though it was the Delta variant), but it was still rough. Would wake up mid-night with the chills shivering and teeth clattering.
I would say, get the vaccine, it will make your time with COVID less miserable. Luckily I have anti-bodies for both of the most popular so I should be fine (will still wear a mask in large gatherings).
a few of my friends had the same, so in this case my opinion is pointless to have any vaccination.
they do offer boosters shortly (starts from September) and other shite just make sure punters are happy with what ever "medicine" they do put inside.
true and doesn't guarantee anything the same as you don't get really sick as people still do get really sick even after the vaccination.
An acquaintance who had completed his SinoVac shots had worse CoVid experience than me who is unvaccinated. He had asthma and diabetes though. That's not to say my experience wasn't terrible because it was. Even if you survived from CoVid, there's a chance you'd experience symptoms that would disrupt you from functioning properly in your daily life after "recovering" from it. Mine seems to be dizziness and heart palpitations that occur often. Was going to get vaccinated but my doctor advised that it might not be a good idea right now considering my health but I could get the shot after 3 months when I feel a little better.
I just want to go to the park without a mask on
Who stopping you? Park is open place outside so no masks required to breath the fresh air
A lot of regions/countries have rules in place where if you leave your house/bubble you’re required to wear a mask (and even at times an added face shield)
I'm going to rewrite this so maybe you'll be able to see how ridiculous that statement is:
"A few of my friends were wearing bulletproof vests during a gun battle, and they got injured pretty badly. So, in my opinion, it's pointless to wear a bulletproof vest."
Yes, different countries have different rules and SOPs.
As I was told, by my family members in the UK, they are only required to wear masks indoors, and not outdoors.
Whereas for the most parts of Asia (or SEA at least), as long as you're not in your own home, be it outdoors or in someone else's home, you are strongly advised to wear a mask - either have 2 layers or wear a face shield on top of it.
@deank how do we punish those who abandon nigh sect
Time will do it. The end will come to them.
it's different. Covid is like a flu just developed in labs, but no one was obsessed or mad about flu vaccination
I know they don't mean much to you, but the opinions of the professionals are mixed regarding the origins of the virus. A lot of information is missing. I'm sure you don't have an inside track on that.
While it's not as dangerous as some initially feared, statistics are clear that Covid-19 is indeed more dangerous than the seasonal flu, especially for people with comorbidities. One of the very first things we learned (well, most of us) is that Covid is not the flu.
I know, I'm wasting my time telling you all of this.
Bottom line is more people are in the hospital with COVID-19 here than have been at any one time with the seasonal flu in any year since I've been alive.
I'm skeptical of a lot of things but what I can know is what's locally available to me and within the physical view of family members I trust.
well maybe in your country...
In my family all are vaccinated, no one yet has gotten covid-19, thank GOD! with the vaccine also comes responsibility, to help mankind we all have to follow the experts advice.