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Los Angeles probably comes close
Why?
But practically, Australia is very connection dependent, some connections go via the US, some via Singapore... Do you have an existing service in Australia that you can test routing from?
Singapore, with slightly less than 200ms from Poland and (ideally) less than 100ms from Australia.
Except when your crappy connection (I'm looking at you, AAPT), routes you via the west coast US and/or Japan to Singapore, so you end up getting 200ms pings to .sg rather than ~95ish...
I do.
Can confirm, not happy with DO in Singapore due to the above.
Unfortunately, not the case. Closer to ~160ms.
Interesting pick, I am seeing ~190-200ms to LA.
Chicago or Dallas
Courtesy of Psychz:
It all depends on routing. I live in Poland and:
RackNerd New York = ~100ms (around 6632km/4121mi)
Hetzner Nuremberg = ~50ms (around 533km/331mi)
Oracle Frankfurt = ~28ms (around 646km/400mi)
RackNerd AMS = ~24ms (around 838km/520mi)
Even in Europe routing can be mess.
I don't have experience with AUS. But based on pure geography Singapore should be the best location. But it all depends on routing. If you wont find anything good in SG then I think you should check Dallas.
New York will be the best for PL (~ 95-100ms twelve99)
Unfortunately due to historical shenanigans by Australia's monopolistic incumbent telco, Singapore should be the best location but routing often means that the US is better... I would suggest that OP tests potential VPS providers between their sites with relevant looking glasses..
Based on my VPSdime (Dallas) and Hosthatch (Chicago) service, I would recommend Chicago over Dallas, but again that's just due to my current providers' network mixes...
ps: for those that are interested, this book provides some good examples the kind of shenanigans Australia has had to deal with https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/12177695-wired-brown-land
For the same two endpoints...
My connection in Australia routes via Perth and SG (Equinix) and is about 250 msec to Warsaw.
My connection in Warsaw routes via New York (Telstra) and is around 310 msec to Australia.
Moscow, Russia >32Ms and >280Ms
Well, Singapore, from Poland 258ms here.
Frankfurt has 249ms via Singapore.
Minimum sum(PL+AUS) ICMP: Singapore (<300ms)
Most equal distribution between the two: Los Angeles (~155-160ms each)
Tested from Hosthatch VPS in Warsaw and Sydney to Webhosting24 Singapore and Hosthatch LAX
I did some tests with https://ping.sx , using these destinations:
waw.lg.webhorizon.inlg.au.webhosting24.comTo minimize sum of latency to Poland and Australia: you should select either Sydney or Singapore.
To minimize difference of latency to Poland and Australia: you should select USA West Coast.
raw data in TSV format
which is better, lowest sum of latency or least difference between both ends?
I'd lean towards LAX, you have far more options there, it's cheaper and it's more likely to deliver consistent results.
Singapore is a decent option only in theory, you have a high chance of encountering crappy routes, both from Poland and Australia (via Japan or West Coast).
this. 100%
Latency sum and difference are objective, and can be measured with tools then aggregated in a spreadsheet.
Better is subjective, and highly dependent on the application:
The push-up delivery network has POPs in Los Angeles, Dallas, Buffalo, Miami, Roubaix, Munich, Warsaw, Singapore, Tokyo.
Viewer would connect to four nearest locations, test their speeds, then keep the fastest connection.
Can't agree with that.
95% of the Time, I does stick fine to 154ms from Frankfurt.
However: My Network does reroute a few times per day, based on latency, so could be that its swapping between my Frankfurt Servers and others to jump down to Singapore.
edit:
But when I look at Tokyo and Hong Kong, it seems rather unstable.
Here For comparison:
edit: 2
But Sydney looks stable so
Hey, I haven't been around for some time and missed many updates to this thread.
Kudos to @Neoon and @yoursunny (we all need to do more pushups!) for their comprehensive replies.
Ended-up using SG POP.
Damn, man, you have some incredibe crappy routing from Poland. I can't imagine to have more than 15 - 22ms max from Ljubljana to any of those locations.
most providers in australia do route via perth to singapore however if in LA the cheaper providers will route you via hong kong and the more expensive providers will route you to LA with around a 140-160ms
As we discused in one of the previous threads already, it's really messed up how you get better latency from Poland to the Netherlands than to the Germany. I mean 50ms... this latency is half way to the other continent (US, east coast) and not normal for the neighbour country.
I checked from several random locations and I wouldn't say that's a norm in the Europe. At least not so drastic. You should blame your ISP(s) peering not European routing.
I coudn't resist urge to check if also from my side (similar / in some cases larger distances with Austria in between).
Oracle-Frankfurt - Ljubljana
Hetzner-Nuremberg - Ljubljana
Inceptionhosting DE VPS
But absolute winner is my webhosting24 DE VPS
To the Netherlands is average around 28 - 32ms, which I would say it's normal from my place (Air line: 614.77 mi / 989.38 km)
Bro, this thread any my reply is from more than year ago xD
"I checked from several random locations and I wouldn't say that's a norm in the Europe."
You are checking from datacenter IPs with direct peering to another datacenter IPs.
Residential peering is completely different.
Orange needs direct connection.
Deutsche Telecom needs direct connection (DTAG).
China needs direct connection (CN2/connection with CM/CU).
etc. etc.
Otherwise routing & latency is a mess. Thats why all German providers are making huge point of having DTAG.
It's a norm in Europe or I should say across the world.
Indians also can have bad experience with peering to Philippines, Singapore. Its close, ping should be very low, but not with every provider.
Only USA maybe better (I honestly dont know how Comcast etc. work there in terms of routing)
PHP-Friends year ago got DTAG. Its such big deal that they announced it ;p
"Already in the summer we started negotiations with Deutsche Telekom, since a direct connection to them was repeatedly mentioned by customers as a wish, but unfortunately DTAG does not peer at DE-CIX (to which we have been connected since March). Since 03.12.2021 our direct connection to DTAG is now active and ensures even better latencies and stability. And not only to DTAG itself: We also actively route some selected networks such as T-Mobile Austria via DTAG. As a matter of principle, we always make our routing decisions based on the best route and not on cost, since our goal is always the best possible traffic mix. As a rule, the best way to reach direct customers and partners of Deutsche Telekom is via Telekom itself, which is why we prefer this route in such cases. By connecting to Deutsche Telekom, we are further improving our network quality and meeting a popular cust omer request."
Ah, crap... I overlooked this. I am sorry
No, I did not.
I checked it from my home connection. Also examples above are from my ISP to the locations you mentioned. Nevertheless, it seems like your ISP have extremely terrible connectivity to the neighbour Germany - as you posted. 50ms? wtf. That's not a norm here (I don't think there's a single part of the EU I would have 50ms to) neither relevant to compare connectivity between neigbour EU countries with connectivity between India and Philippines.