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Linode 2GB -vs- Ramnode 4GB?
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Linode 2GB -vs- Ramnode 4GB?

Debating between Linode 2GB or Ramnode 4GB plan. Both are similarly priced with a Ramnode coupon.

Looking for a solution with minimal downtime and fast speeds for a SQL-hungry script. I'm leaning towards Ramnode, but it seems they get DDOS'ed quite often.

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  • I have been using Linode for several years. Just checked my uptime and it has 180 days, and that is because I rebooted. They are rock solid, highly dependable, and rarely cut off/reboot your services if they are highly used.

  • A production environment I will recommend Linode.
    Ramnode is good as well but definitely you cant compare them with Linode directly.

    However - if location is not a restriction why dnt you use HA supported IWSTACK ? Uncle and Mao do a very good job and HA keeps them failover supported.

  • just go for a dedi if your budget is over $50 :E

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  • matthewvzmatthewvz Member, Provider

    I'm very happy with RamNode. I have a DDoS protected SSD-Cached KVM with them and its never really gone down.

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  • darknessends said: A production environment I will recommend Linode. Ramnode is good as well but definitely you cant compare them with Linode directly.

    Exactly, because Ramnode won't lose your credit card details to a bunch of script kiddies

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  • sundaymousesundaymouse Member
    edited November 2013

    Trust me, for mission-critical tasks, go for Linode. Ramnode is good, but they are relatively more likely to get robertclarked(ie. hacked, downtime and potential data loss) than Linode.

    Edit: Just to clarify: any arguments made in this thread by me is not projecting Ramnode in any way. I used to be a user of @Nick_A and has nothing but satisfy to say about their service. Any further opinions made in this thread are only intended to reply to the arguments.

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  • @Makkesk8 said:
    just go for a dedi if your budget is over $50 :E

    No. A cheap dedi is more susceptible to extended downtime than a VPS with a quality provider.

    I use both Linode and Ramnode, both are superb. For guarantee of uptime, I think Linode has the edge -- primarily because their support infrastructure is much larger.

  • Ramnode is better in every aspect besides server uptime. Allthough problems are solved very fast, I haven't yet seen a month with 100% uptime with them, they got really close, but haven't acomplished it so far for me.
    Ramnode also has the most cpu/$ I have seen yet and their disk I/O is one of the best aswell.

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  • ServamanServaman Member
    edited November 2013

    I've been with RamNode for about a month now and all I can say is there are amazing.

    I have had no issues what so ever, 100% uptime.

    Good job @Nick_A

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  • Thanks for the feedback guys!

  • I'd have to say RamNode; you'll be getting much better performance for your money, and @Nick_A's superb infrastructure and support has never let me down.
    To be fair, I've never needed to contact support, which should emphasise how rock solid his services are.

    I wouldn't worry too much about this decision though - Whoever you choose, you'll be in safe hands.

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  • @ElliotJ said:
    I wouldn't worry too much about this decision though - Whoever you choose, you'll be in safe hands.

    Nick has yet to lose my CC info to skiddies.

    Linode, however, caused my to cancel and change my credit card. Twice

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  • @sundaymouse said:
    Trust me, for mission-critical tasks, go for Linode. Ramnode is good, but they are relatively more likely to get robertclarked(ie. hacked, downtime and potential data loss) than Linode.

    Really ? I mean why do you trust Linode when they were hacked few times

    Take a look here: http://it.slashdot.org/story/13/04/15/186248/

    Plus here: https://blog.linode.com/2013/04/16/security-incident-update/

    LET thread: http://lowendtalk.com/discussion/10277/the-story-around-the-linode-hack

    Big company does'nt mean that it's safe.

    Big Company = Big Risk

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  • @frost : ----> @sundaymouse
    :)

    @MaoUnique - Plz win this customer for IWStack

  • I think one major difference is in their AUP.

    Rammmode states:

    "Client agrees not to run any processes on his or her VPS which create a CPU load above .9 on the VPS for an extended period of time"

    On the other hand this is what Linode support recently told me:

    Regarding abuse of resources, there honestly isn't a specific threshold of when we would be upset about the resources you're using. However if upon evaluation we were to see (for example) you were using 800% CPU for the past month, we would open a ticket with you. We would never disrupt your services unless the actvity causing this usage were malicious and you were unresponsive.

    So, if you script is intensive, it might do better on Linnode as they may not be as quick to reboot or terminate processes as some low end providers. With Linnode it seems you are given a more garanteed cpu priority, and you can use that, more or less, as much as you need to without as much concern for going over.

    Since you said your script was fairly intense, this may be something to think about.

  • Nick_ANick_A Top Provider

    Thanks guys. @progex - keep context in mind when you're referring to DDoS. We are only specifically targeted on rare occasions (as opposed to just have customers targeted which all popular hosts endure). Also, we are, from what I gather, abnormally open about notifying clients regarding inbound DDoS. We also now have an automated system in place to minimize the overall impact of anything that gets hit outside of our filtered IPs.

    Thanks for giving us a look, though, and stop by our IRC channel if you want further insight from clients.

    Also, as others have pointed out, Linode's support and size doesn't necessarily mean your data is safer with them. That goes for any host really.

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  • c0yc0y Member
    edited November 2013

    darknessends said: @MaoUnique - Plz win this customer for IWStack

    Do us all a favor and stop fanboying

    Ramnode is too small (financial and team) to be able to guarantee a solid uptime. Linode is too big to care about shit.

    So who then? I would say EDIS or Prometeus.
    EDIS: decent sized team, knowledgeable people, more than just a solus setup and some fanboy marketing. (go for the KVM ofc)
    Prometeus/iwStack: they have years of experience and if you wish even a HA setup

    Sorry to say, but Ramnode is far from a premium provider and Linode has friendly support but that doesn't mean they actually give a shit about you... (which they don't, they only care about your money)

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  • @alexvolk said:

    When a small LEB company goes wrong, no one will stand out to be responsible as Linode did in that incident. You have someone stand there to compensate you if that goes wrong (in the incident you talked about, the leaked information does not lead to any possibility of direct fraud usage.)

  • said: I'm leaning towards Ramnode, but it seems they get DDOS'ed quite often.

    My experience (4 hosts with RamNode, for ~6 months) is that only a few individual IPs get DDoS'ed each month, and rarely 2 at a time. The cool thing is RamNode has RamNull (automated DDoS route nullification), which works very well. The only reason most RamNode customers know about the occasional DDoS is because Nick provides that info on twitter. Otherwise, you would probably never know it had happened and was quickly isolated by RamNull.

  • Frost said: Ramnode is too small (financial and team) to be able to guarantee a solid uptime.

    Yet they do deliver exactly that. ;-)

  • jarjar Provider
    edited November 2013

    I can compare ramnode to linode and I gladly will. Linode provides excellent support and equally excellent service. So does ramnode. In practice, I can't say data is safer with one or the other. We can all google and find examples where every company in the world let somebody down at some point. There's no reason, in practice that has stood the test of time, not to pick ramnode.

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  • @sundaymouse said:
    When a small LEB company goes wrong, no one will stand out to be responsible as Linode did in that incident. You have someone stand there to compensate you if that goes wrong (in the incident you talked about, the leaked information does not lead to any possibility of direct fraud usage.)

    Yes, of course Linode will be responsible, because they were hacked few times. I see no reason why others should responsible for that.

    • What do they actually did after first hack ?
    • Improved their security!

    • What do they actually did after second hack ?

    • Improved their security!

    and so on...

    Trying to be positive and friendly :)

  • @jimpop said:
    My experience (4 hosts with RamNode, for ~6 months) is that only a few individual IPs get DDoS'ed each month, and rarely 2 at a time. The cool thing is RamNode has RamNull (automated DDoS route nullification), which works very well. The only reason most RamNode customers know about the occasional DDoS is because Nick provides that info on twitter. Otherwise, you would probably never know it had happened and was quickly isolated by RamNull.

    The datacenter does this for them... for every LEB host...

  • Nick_ANick_A Top Provider

    @Frost - I'm not sure you know what you're talking about on a few points there.

    RamNode: High Performance Cloud VPS
    NYC - LA - ATL - SEA - NL - DDoS Protection
  • c0yc0y Member
    edited November 2013

    @Nick_A said:
    Frost - I'm not sure you know what you're talking about on a few points there.

    You can act all fancy but you are still selling to $7 muppets running WHMCS and SolusVM (i don't blame you but that's far from premium)

    You're a decent low end provider, you have proved to be so. But you're still not a provider that could take a serious website like EDIS, Prometeus or Linode could: lack of size and knowledge

  • @Frost said:
    The datacenter does this for them... for every LEB host...

    You have no idea what you are talking about. ;-) RamNull was developed and implemented by RamNode (Nick and Staff).

    Frost said: You can act all fancy but you are still selling to $7 muppets running WHMCS and SolusVM (i don't blame you but that's far from premium)

    I just signed+paid for over $1,000 (after discounts) of services from RamNode, hardly chump change, and I'm fairly certain that I am an average customer for Nick.

    Frost said: You're a decent low end provider, you have proved to be so. But you're still not a provider that could take a serious website like EDIS, Prometeus or Linode could: lack of size and knowledge

    You are comparing apples to oranges. RamNode is in business to provide bare-bones virtual servers (for people who don't need hand-holding), not middleware like iPerWeb. (btw, I also recently dropped a Prometeus server because they still don't have IPv6 in Dallas).

  • Chances are Linode gets DDoSed a ton more than RamNode due to sheer size. RamNode's just a lot more transparent about which nodes are getting DDoSed. And that transparency is a major plus factor to me.

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  • imperioimperio Member
    edited November 2013

    I have 2 vps with ramnode and 6 vps with linode.Linode have advantage with offering 8 CPU cores and ramnode have advantage offering SSD.If you need cpu power go with linode, if you need much more I/O go with ramnode.They are both stable.

  • Nick_ANick_A Top Provider

    @Frost I'm not sure what I've done to offend you, but you seem to have some bone to pick on a personal level.

    Anyway, regarding your ignorance:

    1 - You have no idea what our finances look like, and there is no issue with uptime related to finances or any other factor. Your assumptions there are baseless (and frankly puzzling).

    2 - We don't rely on a data center to apply nullroutes. We do this ourselves in all three locations, with full control and automation built into each (as @jimpop indicated). We run our own network in the US (AS3842) with 30Gbps in Atlanta and soon to be 30Gbps in Seattle.

    RamNode: High Performance Cloud VPS
    NYC - LA - ATL - SEA - NL - DDoS Protection
  • Nick_ANick_A Top Provider

    @Mitsuhashi said:
    Chances are Linode gets DDoSed a ton more than RamNode due to sheer size. RamNode's just a lot more transparent about which nodes are getting DDoSed. And that transparency is a major plus factor to me.

    Right, I've considered just not posting anything about DDoS to Twitter but I'd rather have people know what is going on than just let packet loss occur without explanation. Thankfully with RamNull in place, my posts are less frequent (and I sleep a bit more).

    RamNode: High Performance Cloud VPS
    NYC - LA - ATL - SEA - NL - DDoS Protection
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  • GuanYuGuanYu Member
    edited November 2013

    @jimpop said:
    RamNull was developed and implemented by RamNode

    This damn thing nullroute random IPs from NL subnets atleast once or twice per month :P

    You are comparing apples to oranges.

    That's what Frost try to explain to you ;-) You are the one who comparing apples to oranges. Nick is doing well, especially for LOW END segment but he's still miles away from Linode. Year and half of successful benchmarking is a good enough for LEB world but that's far from mature product. Come back in 5 - 10 years and if things will be still as great or even better we will be at same page.

    @jimpop said:
    I also recently dropped a Prometeus server because they still don't have IPv6 in Dallas

    You did not know that Dacentec doesn't have IPv6? That's hardly a news.

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  • Nick_ANick_A Top Provider

    GuanYu said: This damn thing nullroute random IPs from NL subnets atleast once or twice per month :P

    As indicated on Twitter and our website, it wasn't nullrouting randomly. If you are really unaware of what was going on, PM me and I'll fill you in.

    RamNode: High Performance Cloud VPS
    NYC - LA - ATL - SEA - NL - DDoS Protection
  • GuanYu said: You did not know that Dacentec doesn't have IPv6? That's hardly a news.

    It is news in 2013. IPv6 has been available for well over 10 years. That means if your provider isn't offering you an IPv6 enabled network infrastructure, it's probably 10 year old routers and switches. ;-)

  • GuanYuGuanYu Member
    edited November 2013

    I know that some jerk or more of them target random IPs from those subnets, or atleast you said this before. It's damn scary to see those nullroute notifications for idle boxes first time.

  • jarjar Provider

    I hate IPv6. Not the theory or the potential, just the implementations of upstream providers. Comcast just got around to adding IPv6 for me, thank you for the lower quality bandwidth that follows...

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  • @GuanYu said:
    It's damn scary to see those nullroute notifications for idle boxes first time.

    Really? You are aware that the Internet is not a safe-haven, right?

  • Not trying to recommend one or the other..

    Linode 1GB $20/mo plan (4HR free trial) at Tokyo

    CPU model :  Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2670 0 @ 2.60GHz
    Number of cores : 8
    CPU frequency :  2600.030 MHz
    Total amount of ram : 987 MB
    Total amount of swap : 127 MB
    System uptime :   6 min,
    Download speed from CacheFly: 26.5MB/s
    Download speed from Coloat, Atlanta GA: 4.88MB/s
    Download speed from Softlayer, Dallas, TX: 8.34MB/s
    Download speed from Linode, Tokyo, JP: 51.6MB/s
    Download speed from i3d.net, NL:
    Download speed from Leaseweb, Haarlem, NL: 181KB/s
    Download speed from Softlayer, Singapore: 12.3MB/s
    Download speed from Softlayer, Seattle, WA: 3.77MB/s
    Download speed from Softlayer, San Jose, CA: 6.10MB/s
    Download speed from Softlayer, Washington, DC: 7.11MB/s
    I/O speed :  105 MB/s
    
    dd if=/dev/zero of=test bs=64k count=16k conv=fdatasync
    16384+0 records in
    16384+0 records out
    1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB) copied, 13.7462 s, 78.1 MB/s
    

    Ramnode $15/yr OVZ cached

    CPU model :  Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3-1230 V2 @ 3.30GHz
    Number of cores : 1
    CPU frequency :  3300.035 MHz
    Total amount of ram : 128 MB
    Total amount of swap : 128 MB
    System uptime :   41 days, 16:57,
    Download speed from CacheFly: 70.2MB/s
    Download speed from Coloat, Atlanta GA: 64.3MB/s
    Download speed from Softlayer, Dallas, TX: 72.6MB/s
    Download speed from Linode, Tokyo, JP: 6.88MB/s
    Download speed from i3d.net, NL:
    Download speed from Leaseweb, Haarlem, NL: 6.76MB/s
    Download speed from Softlayer, Singapore: 17.0MB/s
    Download speed from Softlayer, Seattle, WA: 45.1MB/s
    Download speed from Softlayer, San Jose, CA: 53.2MB/s
    Download speed from Softlayer, Washington, DC: 72.1MB/s
    I/O speed :  1.0 GB/s
    
    
    dd if=/dev/zero of=test2 bs=16k count=64k conv=fdatasync && rm -fr iotest
    65536+0 records in
    65536+0 records out
    1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB) copied, 1.04215 s, 1.0 GB/s
    
  • lukesUbuntulukesUbuntu Member
    edited November 2013

    +1 For ramnode, i have read so many reviews on lots of SSD performance VPS hosters so i have purchase 2 from ramnode and now waiting for seattle kvm to get instock to get more. Very Fast, great support from the team, easy setup & benchmarks hard , they compare good on hostingwizard.net

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  • GuanYuGuanYu Member
    edited November 2013

    @jimpop said:
    Really? You are aware that the Internet is not a safe-haven, right?

    Moment when fanboy have nothing to say and get intelectual...
    Sigh... Nevermind.

  • jarjar Provider

    I've never seen the word fanboy used this many times in this short of a time period on LET without an android thread.

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  • @jarland said:
    I've never seen the word fanboy used this many times in this short of a time period on LET without an android thread.

    I thought fanboy was synonymous with Apple

  • jarjar Provider

    @earl said:
    I thought fanboy was synonymous with Apple

    Used to be because everyone with an Apple product would walk up to you and tell you that whatever you owned was crap and theirs was better. After years of that only happening to me by people with laggy pocket sized tablets I decided it's now the other way around :P

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  • I am satisfied Ramnode client! :) I just see things differently that some fanboys :p

  • @GuanYu said:
    I just see things differently that some fanboys :p

    Aren't you the guy who just said you were scared over some tweets? :-)

  • I personally would go with RamNode. Even though Linode is pretty reliable, I believe that others can provide the same level of service for at a significantly lower cost; all you're really paying for with Linode is the name. I have been with RamNode now for a few months and I haven't had any issues beyond a minor hiccup with IPv6. Additionally, @Nick_A and his staff are very responsive not only in tickets but also in their IRC channel.

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  • @progex - No question about it, RamNode FTW! They are rock solid!

    In reference to Linode, you might want to read this (a very solid review :P): http://lowendtalk.com/discussion/4706/why-linode-sucks-a-personal-rant/p1

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