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Novos Brick is out.

Novos Brick cloud storage will end it's services on 15th of July 2021. I suspect this might also be related to Chia. Backup your data fast.

Hello,

This is an important email to announce the discontinuation of our NOVOS BRICK service. Unfortunatley, NOVOS BRICK will be discontinued from July 15th, 2021.
Increased hardware -and licensing costs and lack of upgrading users are forcing us to shut down BRICK. We are very sorry that BRICK didn't become what we wanted it to be. A lot of time, effort and money was invested into it but at this point we see no future where it could become a sustainable service.

If you signed up for the beta BRICK-200 (The $1 service) no refund will be provided. With substraction of the Paypal fees not much of that amount would be left and the effort would not worth the maybe 60 or 70 cent return.
If you signed up for (or upgraded to) the premium service, BRICK-500 or BRICK-1000 you will receive a full refund from all the months since you've purchased the service. These will processed starting July 15th, but please allow some time (up to several weeks) for these to be processed.

Please make sure to save your data before July 15th, 2021. As from then on your BRICK will be inaccessible.

Note: This announcement does not affect our VPS services in any way. This announcement is for NOVOS BRICK cloud storage only.

Thanks for your understanding!

Martijn Kools
NOVOS

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  • AlwaysSkintAlwaysSkint Member
    edited July 2021

    Shame it didn't work out. I used it as a supplementary backup for some files.
    Don't think Chia has anything to do with it as it was Nextcloud/Owncloud As A Service.

  • Blame China Chia

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  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    I do not consider this a deadpool.
    Service is still up, proper notice is given, refunds are offered to paid plans.

    I have 200GB plan to backup photos.
    Now I'm back to uploading photos to Facebook.

  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran
    edited July 2021

    Most of the people paid 1€ here and had several months of service.
    Seems fair, that he says, what was it again 6 months or even more, no refunds to that 1€.

    After processing fees back and forth you can't even buy you a chocolate bar duh.

  • defaultdefault Veteran
    edited July 2021

    @Neoon said:
    Most of the people paid 1€ here and had several months of service.
    Seems fair, that he says, what was it again 6 months or even more, no refunds to that 1€.

    After processing fees back and forth you can't even buy you a chocolate bar duh.

    True. The 1 euro was a marketing stunt. The fact that the whole storage business did not succeed, now when buying a HDD is more expensive because of Chia, does however come as a surprise.

  • Service sucked when trying to upload from the USA ... ~100kbps

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  • JioJio Member

    It was not in USA was it not ?

  • imgmoneyimgmoney Member
    edited July 2021

    @yoursunny said: I have 200GB plan to backup photos.

    You can upload your 200GB to my website and store it. It is only meant to be for photos. You can use it for 6 months for free and share your feedback as you are planning to upload it to upload FB as a backup.

    I am planning to charge only 1USD per 100GB after a year or so. I can DM you the URL if you need. And 8USD for 1TB is my plan. And it is purely for photos.

  • JioJio Member

    @imgmoney said: I am planning to charge only 1USD per 100GB after a year or so. I can DM you the URL if you need. And 8USD for 1TB is my plan. And it is purely for photos.

    Please stop trying to collect the pornography of LET members.

  • imgmoneyimgmoney Member
    edited July 2021

    @Jio said: Please stop trying to collect the pornography of LET members.

    We accept anything legal :)

    Also, if it is porn, he won't be using FB to upload. And I can offer 10 different people from LET 100GB of photo storage for free for 6 months and so you can share your feedback after 6 months.

  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate
    edited July 2021

    @imgmoney said:

    @yoursunny said: I have 200GB plan to backup photos.

    You can upload your 200GB to my website and store it. It is only meant to be for photos. You can use it for 6 months for free and share your feedback as you are planning to upload it to upload FB as a backup.

    Photos are already on Facebook.
    If both my local HDDs fail, it isn't easy to download them from Facebook, but they still can be viewed.

    Does you website support rclone or similar?
    I'm not interested in doing a Facebook-like upload, album by album.

    I am planning to charge only 1USD per 100GB after a year or so. I can DM you the URL if you need. And 8USD for 1TB is my plan. And it is purely for photos.

    DM an offer is against the rules.
    Please post the URL in the thread.

    Either way, I'll have to share it publicly.
    How else would fans see my photos?


    @Jio said:
    Please stop trying to collect the pornography of LET members.

    My photos are not pornography.
    If you have Facebook account, you can see them: https://fb.com/yoursunny

  • @yoursunny said: Does you website support rclone or similar?

    Nope. It is a normal PHP script that does FB like uploads. All I did was an optimized setup and so I can offer free service to people.

    And who needs serious storage can get a premium account, which I will announce after 1 year.

    The website name is https://im.ge , you will get free uploads and free downloads with no restriction.

  • JioJio Member

    @yoursunny said: My photos are not pornography.

    Your photos will turn at least n >= 1 person on LET on. Therefore it can qualify.

    @yoursunny said: If both my local HDDs fail, it isn't easy to download them from Facebook, but they still can be viewed.

    Doesn't FB do compression and strip EXIF (but only for other users, it still retains this data for its own (ab)use) too?

  • @Jio said:

    @yoursunny said: If both my local HDDs fail, it isn't easy to download them from Facebook, but they still can be viewed.

    Doesn't FB do compression and strip EXIF (but only for other users, it still retains this data for its own (ab)use) too?

    I believe you can download the original photos

  • @Jio said:

    @imgmoney said: I am planning to charge only 1USD per 100GB after a year or so. I can DM you the URL if you need. And 8USD for 1TB is my plan. And it is purely for photos.

    Please stop trying to collect the pornography of LET members.

    Note to self, start a business claiming to store personal porn collection "securely".

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  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker

    Sad because while I'm not sure that his approach was reasonable I liked the Novos guy and he was friendly.
    I hope the best for him and his business.

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  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran

    How the fuck is chia influencing market?
    Out of curiosity I have put it on the HDD in a laptop (I use only the NVMe part) for 1 TB it says I had a chance of winning in 30 years. I mean, come on.
    You must be crazy to buy HDDs for that.

  • aiden1aiden1 Member

    @Maounique said: You must be crazy to buy HDDs for that.

    That's because you only have 1 TB. You need to buy 500-600TB to have a chance.

    USB external drive 8TB was $150 here a few months ago. It's now about $300-350 and out of stock.

  • defaultdefault Veteran

    You must be crazy to buy HDDs for that.

    And yet... 30 exabytes with Chia, and it's just one mining pool space.

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran
    edited July 2021

    say you have one chance every 15 days with 600 TB at the cost of about 20k eur. 6000 eur a year. You recover investment at current prices in 3 years +. The more miners there are, the lower the return, so I can recover the price of a laptop mining ethereum in 2 years at current prices.
    It doesnt make sense unless everyone hodl and hopes for things like dogecoin boom.

  • defaultdefault Veteran

    @Maounique said:
    It doesnt make sense unless everyone hodl and hopes for things like dogecoin boom.

    Exactly. To the moon 🚀

  • @Maounique said:
    say you have one chance every 15 days with 600 TB at the cost of about 20k eur. 6000 eur a year. You recover investment at current prices in 3 years +. The more miners there are, the lower the return, so I can recover the price of a laptop mining ethereum in 2 years at current prices.
    It doesnt make sense unless everyone hodl and hopes for things like dogecoin boom.

    A 16TB drive you used to be able to buy for $140 can make $25 a month farming in a pool right now. That doesn't look like 3 years+.

    say you have one chance every 15 days with 600 TB at the cost of about 20k eur. 6000 eur a year.

    Ah cmon. Using this calculator, you would be looking at a return of 1.6k a month and not 600. Also, your expected price/TB of $33 is horribly high, and the fact that Chia miners can still realistically recoup that cost is exactly why NOVOS Brick failed. They probably expected prices of $10/TB, not >$33 or whatever it takes before mining Chia isn't profitable.

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran
    edited July 2021

    I did the calculations myself using lowest price for a 12 tb disk here and current chia price. I did not include any other hw, power, etc, just the disks.

  • @Maounique said: I did the calculations myself using lowest price for a 12 tb disk here

    That's exactly the problem. The increased prices also make NOVOS Brick unsustainable, and Chia isn't the only thing affected.

    If you used the old prices, the disks would only cost you 8k, and it would be far more attractive to miners. Trying to explain why a price increased by saying that no one would want to buy goods at the new price is a shoddy explanation. The only thing that matters is enough people were willing to buy goods at the old price to drive things up.

    Also, 600 TB would be 2.0e-5 of the network. Total Chia emissions per month are 280k. You can multiply those two numbers together to see that average Chia wins for 600TB would be 5.6 per month. I'm not sure what math you were doing.

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran

    @drunkendog said: If you used the old prices, the disks would only cost you 8k,

    That is the idea, you cannot buy disks at old prices so anyone entering the scheme now would need to buy at current prices.
    I can see a way where the old disks are used for chia while everyone needing now for any other purpose would buy at new prices.
    Yeah, it's a mess.

  • TimboJonesTimboJones Member
    edited July 2021

    @drunkendog said:
    A 16TB drive you used to be able to buy for $140

    Where the fuck was this? 8TB's were only going on sale for $199 (CAD, think 30% higher than USD) on BF and Prime days and shit last year. You couldn't even do $140 from limited quantity shucking.

  • @TimboJones said:

    @drunkendog said:
    A 16TB drive you used to be able to buy for $140

    Where the fuck was this? 8TB's were only going on sale for $199 (CAD, think 30% higher than USD) on BF and Prime days and shit last year. You couldn't even do $140 from limited quantity shucking.

    Sorry, that was a ballpark number. However, I was able to find this from 3 months ago, so the price shouldn't be significantly different. Even if you double the cost, it doesn't significantly change the profitability of Chia mining,

  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @Jio said:
    Your photos will turn at least n >= 1 person on LET on.

    @Nekki thinks I'm hot.

    @yoursunny said: If both my local HDDs fail, it isn't easy to download them from Facebook, but they still can be viewed.

    Doesn't FB do compression and strip EXIF (but only for other users, it still retains this data for its own (ab)use) too?

    Compression, so what?
    I just want the photos to be viewable.
    They don't have to be the original files.

  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    I made my own storage service: Deep Atlantic Storage.

    • Any file, any size, any content.
    • Secure storage deep in the Atlantic Ocean.
    • Advanced sorting technology keeps your data neatly ordered.
    • Download without an Internet connection via the Deep Atlantic Storage app.

    This would become where I store my secondary backups.

    See also: How Many Servers Do You Need for a Crucial Website? aka "how many backups do you need for crucial data"

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